Skip to comments.The Real Story of the Oklahoma City Bombing
Posted on 04/27/2010 1:05:44 PM PDT by AIM Freeper
While liberal news outlets such as MSNBC were cynically exploiting the April 19 anniversary of the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing by attempting to tie the terrorist attack to the anti-government sentiments of the modern-day Tea Party movement, investigative reporter Jayna Davis was setting the record straight in an exclusive interview on the AIM radio show, Take AIM. The Oklahoma City bombing was an Arab/Muslim terrorist attack on the United States, she says.
Davis, author of a blockbuster book on the attack, The Third Terrorist, has examined and presented the evidence showing that Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh was in fact a front man for Middle Eastern terrorists. The third terrorist, in addition to the two, McVeigh and Terry Nichols, who were convicted, was an Arab. This was the mysterious "John Doe" who was never found. But other members of an Arab terrorist network were involved, she says.
She says the evidence was ignored and dismissed because the Clinton Administration didn't want to go to war with Iraq, the likely culprit, and wanted to blame the attack on domestic right-wingers for political reasons.
The implications of what Davis has to say are that the case is still unsolved, that the FBI blew it, and that we may still be vulnerable to Arab terrorists infiltrating the U.S. and killing hundreds or thousands of innocent Americans.
Indeed, Davis suggested in her AIM interview that another attack on American soil may be coming, perhaps from the same networks which sponsored McVeigh.
Liberal media like MSNBC have peddled the false notion that McVeigh was motivated by domestic hatred of the government, and that the Tea Party movement is motivated by the same. Hence, by extension, the Tea Party movement will probably spawn anti-government fanatics who will kill people.
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This thesis is in direct contradiction to McVeigh’s own statements.
OKC being on the anniversary of Waco and Lexington and Concord is a bit suspicious, don’t you think?
Joe Stack (IRS plane crasher) sums up his manifesto with this, a popular Karl Marx quote and a stab at Capitalism...
The communist creed:
From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.
The capitalist creed:
From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed.
-Joe Stack (1956-2010)
Full text here: (CNN PDF file)
That doesn't necessarily mean anything. They could have chosen that occasion to throw investigators off.
Worst-case, you’re absolutely right about that. Davis says in the interview that McVeigh wanted to be seen as the mastermind, and went to great lengths to refute her thesis. He even called CNN to complain when they aired an interview with Davis. She said that Nichols, however, actually said “The Jayna Davis theory may be correct.” The transcript is online, so you can decide for yourself.
At one point Jayna was freeping, this was a few years back, and I asked her via freepmail why an administration that actually went to war against Islamic extremists would continue to cover up the OKC bombing, as it is her contention that the facts are well known to those ‘in the know’.
She suggested I buy the book.
Jayna’s book is excellent, I read it years ago and was quite impressed with her investigation.
Jayne brought her findings to the FBI and they rejected it, after all they already had their man with McVeigh. They never found John Doe but Jayna did and he was an ex Iraqi soldier. Put those pieces together and you see the truth about OKC.
and Hussein al-Husseini got a job at Logan airport in Boston...but nothing bad ever happened out of there...
I have her book, and have heard her interviewed.
It is a very compelling read, and very frustrating when you see the evidence that was misplaced, somehow just disappeared, or was purposely ignored. She was on the story within minutes of the bombing, and she has eyewitness testimonies from 20+ people, unrelated to each other, that relay the same information with regard to John Doe #2 (remember him?)down to the clothes he was wearing and the tattoo on his hand, the brown Chevy truck, and various other details the feds decided didn’t fit the “angry white right wing extremist” template they had constructed. These were people she talked to immediately—that also later gave statements to the feds. She had video testimony that she held on to until she found someone she thought she could trust in the FBI. She was left disappointed.
I think I threw the book in disgust a few times while reading. It is one of those books where you are so infuriated at the inaction of the people who are supposed to be piecing together the total picture to find the truth, but because they have decided that everything should go in one little box, anything else—no matter how compelling or startling— is disregarded.
She has brought this to the attention of congresscritters, and at one point had Congressman Dana Rohrabacher very interested in her investigation, and she was going to DC to testify before congress, IIRC. As I recall, that fell through as well, and she was left, yet again, to wonder why.
It is also very interesting that the key suspect in her book turned up working at Boston Logan airport prior to 9-11 and kept talking about how he would be blamed if something awful happened in the US and was seeing a therapist due to his levels of anxiety over this possible scenario.
Hmmmm, I think maybe I should read it again, while I still have low blood pressure.
I think if the Muzzies did this they’d be claiming credit.
The whole purpose is to terrorize.
They can’t terrorize if nobody knows they did it.
TWA Flight 800
are all characterized by two significant similarities:
The “official” investigations were all proven to have significant faults, some openly admitted, and
key members of the Clinton administration were involved with the “investigations” almost from the beginning.
Of the three, my opinion is that TWA Flight 800 is the most damningly compromised, although the Waco “investigation” also reeks to high Heaven.
Pinging Jayna, if you’re still FReeping.
Not if McVeigh is languishing on some sunny beach somewhere slurping down some Singapore Slings served by a bevy of bikini-clad cuties.
That’s a conspiracy theory *way* beyond anything I could subscribe to.
Whether one believes this Arab tie-in account or not... the other obvious reason McVeigh would have blown up up the OKC Fed Building was in direct retaliation for the outrageous actions of the U.S. Government in Waco - not born from a generalized hatred of the government by right wingers. After all it was done on the Waco anniversary... And McVeigh - if he is to be believed said as much... A no brainer to me...
She hasn’t posted since June 12, 2006.
Jayna Davis interview on Paul Schiffer
you left out WTC I, 1993
Ok, but how did he make such beautiful clean and perfect cuts on those interior I beams?
And we’ve had every chance to collect evidence from inside of Iraq and none has turned up.
Actually it worked for them, you had the Dumocrat Admin running around claiming Americans were insane militias plying with fertilizer.
It worked until 9-11.
Now they are back to the old playbook. Dumocrats think American Citizens are terrorist not the ones that state their terrorism plans from a cave in the wilderness.
I’ll second that. Bought and read her book not long after its publication, and remain convinced that her thesis is one whose consequences Bubba Clinton did not want to face.
I was startled when the search for the black-haired, swarthy complected “Third Terrorist” was abruptly terminated after about two days, and stories of those scary white supremacists suddenly and seemingly arbitrarily imposed on the national consciousness and conversation by no less a personage than our Chief Executive. That man was seen, his presence on the scene reported. Then the screen went blank!!
How would anyone make such cuts with a truck explosion from the street...? What does that have to do with Arabs being involved?
Are you talking about some conspiracy at the World Trade Center or in the OKC Bombing?
Another response to your response... My original comments were about motive - not method...
I feel quite strongly that McVeigh’s motive was revenge - for the Waco tragic fiasco - as retaliation for the over the top military type response to capture a two bit religious nut...
Notice one thing about the actions of the Feds in the past ten-twelve years... with the exception of the nutty over done police state actions against the Mormon fundamentalist sect in Texas -— the Federal Law Enforcement agencies have steered clear of Waco type craziness...
The "cuts" were not on so-called "interior 'I' beams". The most obvious "cuts" were in the 3' thick, 5' tall and 200' long "header" or "spandrel" beam that spanned the entire exterior of the north side of the MB -- at the third floor level.
At three points on that beam (at 40-foot intervals, aligned with the main external columns) that beam was sliced neatly in two, with the concrete completely pulverized and missing and with a smooth, granular fracture termination -- leaving ~22 inch gaps. And the intervening sections of that beam were totally unmarred by damage.
In the following graphic,
the concrete in the red-colored sections was totally missing - leaving only clean rebar. The sole exception is the cross-hatched half-span of the header on the western (right) end, which broke in mid-span in classic tension fracture (from overhead loading) apparently after support was lost on the eastern (left) end.
Absent evidence of criminal material deficiencies in those areas, no individual or organization has ever supplied even a theory as to how an air blast -- of any magnitude could have caused such selective damage. Certainly no one has ever explained how air blast from a ANFO/ANNM charge in a truck parked at the indicated crater site could have produced those results.
(Yes, before you ask, I have discussed this at length with General Ben Partin.)
(And, yes, Jayna and I have, on occasion, communicated...)
FReepmail if you wish...
Not what we are seeing out here in what used to be the fastest growing county in the US. They just hit a big motorcycle gang in Hemet and also a Big Mexican Street Gang in Ontario. And then we had that recent massive raid on that small militia group in the mid-west. They appear to be selectively targeting those deemed to be significant threats during a potential economic collapse. What McVeighs personal motivations were are not relevant to determining who he worked with or who potentially gave him material aid. This is a major issue since we have so many John Doe #2 eye witness testimonials.
Big Mexican Street Gang in Ontario ... are you speaking of the United States? If not - I could give a damn.
As I said in other words — nothing like Waco has happened since ... I challenge you to bring a U.S. example - except the Mormon fundamentalist episode I mention...
Seems so many posters are long on Conspiracy and short on real evidence ... just vague connectedness...
Might'n that be a good start in the right direction, considering all the time and energy spent wontonly wonderin' in the wrong direction all these years?
I specifically left addressing the WHO? and WHY? to others. In that regard, Jayna, IMHO, is on the right track for filling in the gaps in our knowledge.
If you have not (as I have) dedicated several years working with other folks also dedicated to finding the answers, I'd be very careful about tossing around terms like, "wontonly wonderin' in the wrong direction"... Especially so if you have not gone head-to-head with the Federal Bureau of Misdirection...
Have you seen this article about Jayna?