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What, Exactly, Do We Want to Restore America to?
Jeremy Sarber ^ | May 4, 2010 | Jeremy Sarber

Posted on 05/05/2010 9:30:54 PM PDT by NY Hockey Mom

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To: ourcountryback

In Obama’s presidency, no. Over the last hundred years or so, since FDR, overall the shift has been leftward. Think strategic, not tactical.


21 posted on 05/05/2010 10:36:06 PM PDT by MetaThought
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To: ourcountryback

And what brings you to that conclusion ? Cuba was quite prosperous before the revolution.


23 posted on 05/05/2010 10:50:53 PM PDT by MetaThought
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To: ourcountryback

Tell the 100 million plus dead that communism is just a “paper tiger”.


24 posted on 05/05/2010 10:55:21 PM PDT by SirLurkedalot (Where'd all the "Dissent is the Highest Form of Patriotism" bumper stickers go?)
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To: ourcountryback

Sympathizers and spies kept selling us out to the USSR, and kept it going for quite a while.


25 posted on 05/05/2010 11:02:38 PM PDT by MetaThought
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To: pieceofthepuzzle; Tijeras_Slim

A 59 cent miller high life and green chiles for the masses!


29 posted on 05/06/2010 12:04:49 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: ourcountryback

I think they think they are winning, due to thirty years of public school indoctrination and non-teaching of historical facts. However, Middle Earth, oops, Middle America, still has an intrinsic faith in mankind to do the RIGHT thing in all situations. Play fair, Share with others, Do unto others, etc. Of this the liberal pablum will never overcome. It is set in the hearts of man by his Creator....and Obama and his Communist buddies will never overcome this.


30 posted on 05/06/2010 12:06:20 AM PDT by Semperfiwife (Is Drill, Baby, Drill now Walk, Baby, Walk???? Are politicians walking now????)
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To: ourcountryback

What’s it like to live in your own little troll world ?


31 posted on 05/06/2010 12:33:12 AM PDT by MetaThought
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
Looks identical to Glen Beck’s version he did 6 months ago, excepting he put the original Constitution closer to anarchy.

He really did that? Its not true of course. Property owners wrote the constitution and they did it in response, in part, to Shay's Rebellion which was anarchistic. They feared licentiousness, the mob and democracy more than they feared a monarch or judges. The other angle is the constitution protected state laws which today would be considered a violation of so-called "civil liberties" (a phrase found nowhere in the constitution, the English common law, Blackstone or the Federalist papers).

32 posted on 05/06/2010 12:42:55 AM PDT by Brugmansian
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To: Brugmansian

Beck never said we were close to anarchy.

The article shows a drawing with fascism and communism close to the left side which is complete covernment control. The right side is complete freedom, or anarchy. They put the Constitution in the middle.

I was pointing out that Beck made the same exact illustration 6 months ago and that this blogger seems to have gotten the idea from him. The ONLY difference is, rather than putting the Constitution (symbolizing US Federalism of 1790 or so) in the middle between complete government control and complete anarchy, Beck had shown it at about 1/4 to 1/3 from anarchy and 2/3 to 3/4 from complete government control.

In other words, our government under the constitution had extremely limited Federal government control.

So my point is, the illustration on the blog is identical to what Beck did months ago, with one minor exception that Beck shows even less governent control than the blogger is showing.

I had 2 points:

1 - Beck seems to be way out in front of most everyone, who pick up his ideas as their own much later.

2 - The blogger seems to have been influenced by Beck’s old drawing.


33 posted on 05/06/2010 12:57:18 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Bye bye Miss American Freedom. When did we vote for Communism?)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Yes, it seems derivative. What bothers me is a notion is being propagated that the founding era was some libertarian utopia, a golden age when everyone could do whatever they damn well pleased. What they miss is the limits on the Federal government were put in place to protect state laws which were anything but libertarian. Some of the first Federal laws were draconian too. It was a death penalty offense to interfere with the postal service.


34 posted on 05/06/2010 1:04:46 AM PDT by Brugmansian
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To: bigbob
We don’t need a “Reset” button, we need to do a “System Restore”, back to October 2008.

That's a great way to phrase it, but I'd set the System Restore date back to about 1900.

That would disable a lot of the government created viruses and trojans that are killing our de-centralized processing units.

35 posted on 05/06/2010 1:18:46 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: ourcountryback
If communism was such an evil, piss poor way of allocating resources, why were they able to compete with capitalism for 50 years?

Pure, unreasoning, and unreserved force, applied by the suppressive totalitarian state apparatus onto the heads of every citizen.

36 posted on 05/06/2010 1:25:17 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Liberty Valance

Preach it!


37 posted on 05/06/2010 6:17:52 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: NY Hockey Mom
There is no doubt that America is an extremely diverse nation of people. That is why it is so unfortunate to see our individual liberty slip away. We are slowly becoming a “mass of people” rather than a nation of individuals.

There is a direct correlation. Multiculturalism is Marxist tyranny.

38 posted on 05/06/2010 6:26:23 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: ourcountryback

Individual liberty vs Governments boot on your throat.

Allocation of resources that I earn is MY job not the governments. To the extent that the American government is moving the governed toward the Communist model of collecting all resources and re-allocating them on our behalf - Communism most certainly is a problem in the USA.


39 posted on 05/06/2010 6:34:34 AM PDT by carmody
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To: NY Hockey Mom
It is popular to classify the right as “Fascism” and the left as “Communism

It is popular but it is also incredibly ignorant. Communism and Fascism are different sides of the same coin. The extreme right is not fascism but anarchy. As you move left you get greater levels of control over the people by a self selected elite.

40 posted on 05/06/2010 6:37:44 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (The problem with Socialism is eventually you run our of other peoples money. Lady Thatcher)
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