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Does your wife own a 12 ga?
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Posted on 05/08/2010 5:33:06 PM PDT by 2aberro

To whom it may concern. If your wife does not own a 12 ga, you may need to buy her one for her birthday.

I recently took a job that keeps me away from home most of the time. My wife had many nights of sleeplessness due to fear, agnst, and lack of self confidence when she is alone at night.

Long story short. I bought her a short barreled 12ga and it is loaded with low recoil buckshot.

She and I practiced with HER shotgun with light dove loads for several weeks.

The 12ga sleeps on my side of the bed when I'm not at home and she sleeps soundly now, she fears no living being. Here is a poem I really like:

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It's all a tale of living, of what a man can be. I'll pass it on from my life, so maybe you can see. There's very few things that can't get done With five hunnerd dollars and a pump shotgun.

It's been passed on to me, from father to the kid. Sometimes you have to stand tall, sometimes you best be hid.

But a man can always stand tall, he never has to run

With five hunnerd dollars and a pump shotgun.

There's times when life is fearful, there's times that aren't so good. When a man does what he has to, when he does just what he should.

But he can keep his house warm, his place there in the sun With five hunnerd dollars and a pump shotgun.

One night the prisoners broke out, a few had rushed the gate. And Daddy heard that they were coming, heading down the interstate.

But they didn't stop at our house, they continued on the run Cause Dad was on the front porch with a pump shotgun.

Sometimes my Dad worked overtime, sometimes from out of state

My Momma didn't worry when the old man got in late She knew where Daddy kept them, could grab them on the run She had five hunnerd dollars and a pump shotgun.

It didn't matter what the trouble, didn't matter what the cause, If a kid got sick or the roof blew off, it didn't give her pause.

If a wolf got in the chickens, just trying to have some fun Mom would greet him warmly with a pump shotgun.

And when I started my house, with a baby on the way Dad came by one evening, said what he had to say "Remember all your lessons, and do what must be done.

Here's five hunnerd dollars and a pump shotgun."


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1 posted on 05/08/2010 5:33:06 PM PDT by 2aberro
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To: 2aberro

I would also suggest a dog. A gun isn’t much good if you don’t have an alert system. A protective dog is about the best there is.


2 posted on 05/08/2010 5:36:34 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

A small yippy dog will wake somebody up w/shotgun too.


3 posted on 05/08/2010 5:38:36 PM PDT by omega4179 (www.jdforsenate.com)
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To: 2aberro

We used to have a few 12 gauges, and some 20 gauges scattered through the house, along with a 38 special and a Smith M&P.

Unfortunately, they were all lost in a tragic fishing accident.


4 posted on 05/08/2010 5:40:34 PM PDT by BattleHymn
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To: 2aberro

I already tried that with my wife. She admitted that she didn’t think she could shoot someone, even to save her life. The last thing I need is dead wife and a criminal on the loose with her shotgun. Women are programmed to be the nurturers and men are programmed to be the warriors, although you couldn’t tell in some progressive households.


5 posted on 05/08/2010 5:40:44 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: Brilliant

Yes a dog and a gun is a good combination. A dog that will raise an alarm will give you time to get your weapon ready. A dog alone can be easily killed by a dangerous person, a weapon alone does you no good if you are soundly asleep and an intruder gets the drop on you. A great do will at least slow down a bad person long enough for you to fill that person with lead.


6 posted on 05/08/2010 5:41:15 PM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: 2aberro

We have a couple of 12 gauge shotguns. A Remington 870 and a Saiga 12. I really love taking the wife out to the range and having her burn through a 20rnd drum. Don’t know if she’s hitting what she’s shooting at, I suppose you would almost have to TRY to miss with that much lead going down range. lol


7 posted on 05/08/2010 5:42:44 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: AlaskaErik

Do you have children? Many women that think they can’t shoot someone would in a heartbeat to save their children. At least see if you can get her to practice target shooting and maybe when she feels more comfortable with a weapon if the need arises she may change her mind.


8 posted on 05/08/2010 5:43:33 PM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: 2aberro
Story that's been handed around a few times, but always good for a chuckle:

A young lady friend discovered the tactical utility of Dragon's Breath rounds last night... She was at home with her two young kids, while her husband (LE type) was on late duty. A couple of gang-bangers decided this was a good night to break in, and a bit after 11 p.m., when the family was in bed, they broke in through the living-room window. She heard the noise they made, and grabbed her husband's Mossberg Model 500, which he kept by the bedside for her use when he wasn't at home. She went to the door leading to the living-room, and saw one of the gang-bangers just inside the window, helping his friend through. She raised the shotgun and fired one round at the guy inside.

What she didn't know was that her husband had been playing around with his shotgun a couple of days earlier, along with some of his buddies. He'd left the shotgun loaded with a Dragon's Breath round up the spout, a Screamer next, and a Bird Bomb third in line. When she touched off the first round, a gout of flame enveloped the entire window area, scorching and blackening both intruders, and doing all sorts of nasty things to her curtains. She screamed in shock, but didn't drop the shotgun - racked the action and let off another round. A ghastly demonic wail was heard in the land as this round went straight out the window and down the driveway.

The two gang-bangers stood not upon the order of their going... apparently they broke several land speed records heading down the driveway, screaming loudly all the way (as in "Bleep! WHAT THE BLEEP-BLEEP-BLEEP WAS THAT???"). She called 911, and her husband and other cops arrived within minutes. The other cops then had the pleasure of listening to her tell her husband (in words of approximately one syllable, for ten minutes, without repeating herself) what she thought of a partner who would load a defensive weapon with rounds like that! Apparently they (the other cops) were doubled over, helpless with laughter, while her husband shrank by the minute!

They didn't catch the BG's, but according to the cops, they're probably still running, and should be across the Arkansas border by now (it's only about 150 miles north of here). I understand that domestic harmony, of a sort, has been restored in the household of my friends, but that the husband will be spending time and money replacing curtains and cleaning up scorch marks on the paintwork...

For those who may not know about Dragon's Breath rounds, here's a picture.

Thought I would share for the thread :)

9 posted on 05/08/2010 5:44:15 PM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: Brilliant
Very true. We have a couple of dogs that tend to bark at the grass growing. Dogs WILL let you know if someone is around, especially little dogs.
10 posted on 05/08/2010 5:44:18 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: 2aberro

Rather than a shotgun, consider a high capacity pistol, or short barreled carbine. At in-home ranges, you need to aim your shotgun as carefully as a pistol or rifle; better to consider multiple shots considering you WILL miss with a vast majority of your shots, and capacity is always welcome.

Also the recoil - even with light-loads - of a shottie is considerably higher than a pistol or carbine. And the noise and flash is quite higher as well, disorienting the shooter and the target.

My recommendation is usually a high capacity DAO pistol, or a 5.56mm carbine; 16+ rounds on tap is a good starting point. And a 5.56mm with soft points has less overpenetration problems than a 12 GA with 00 buckshot.


11 posted on 05/08/2010 5:46:35 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: AlaskaErik
I already tried that with my wife. She admitted that she didn’t think she could shoot someone

we are all different,

my wife was very hesitant at first, the noise and recoil, but my wife now smiles as she pumps the next round into the chamber. She LOVES blasting watermelons..I have no doubt, this girl would pull the trigger.

Get your wife one anyway, better to have the choice, than not. PS, women in a crunch, will surprise you.

12 posted on 05/08/2010 5:48:37 PM PDT by 2aberro
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To: AlaskaErik

This woman is programmed to shoot if necessary.

I do agree that certain women are not cut out for handling firearms.

: )


13 posted on 05/08/2010 5:50:53 PM PDT by TheConservativeParty ( HEY OBAMA, I CAN SEE NOVEMBER FROM MY BACK FORTY -Lady NRA Member)
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To: 2aberro

No, she has a .410, a .38 and a 7.62 X 54R. Never a worry.


14 posted on 05/08/2010 5:50:55 PM PDT by alarm rider (The left will always tell you who they fear the most. What are they telling you now?)
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To: Brilliant

It would be a shame to have to shoot the perps while that dog is in the line of fire.

Plan carefully.

A good dog can be hard to replace (but not nearly as hard as a family member).


15 posted on 05/08/2010 5:51:38 PM PDT by savedbygrace (Rev 22:20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord)
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To: 2aberro
great home defense video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4sZ2A04GrY
16 posted on 05/08/2010 5:52:20 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen (Keep your socialized health care off my body !!)
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To: BattleHymn

Did your houseboat sink?


17 posted on 05/08/2010 5:52:40 PM PDT by Calamari (Pass enough laws and everyone is guilty of something.)
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To: Brilliant
Nothing quite like a good German Shepherd on the job.Ours take their work seriously,I pity anyone breaking into our house.Oh,and my MP5 works good in close quarters too.
18 posted on 05/08/2010 5:56:12 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop thinking about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Calamari

No, it was a friends houseboat. And, as a matter of fact there were a lot of people on that houseboat that day, and they all lost their firearms, too.

The darnedest thing, that!


19 posted on 05/08/2010 6:00:05 PM PDT by BattleHymn
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To: 2aberro

We’ve got 6 cats and a dog, so she’ll have to use the AR-15 instead. Otherwise, we’d be picking buckshot out of cats for weeks.


20 posted on 05/08/2010 6:00:51 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: AlaskaErik
Women are programmed to be the nurturers and men are programmed to be the warriors,

You never met my Grandma. Snakes feared to come on to her place, 'cause if she found 'em there, they never got the chance to leave. She was of pioneer stock. German pioneer stock.

21 posted on 05/08/2010 6:01:25 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Domandred

That is freaking hilarious !! I have never heard of those type of rounds before. WOW !


22 posted on 05/08/2010 6:04:25 PM PDT by onona (dbada)
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To: KoRn
My wife and I were at the range this week and can say this without thinking she can outshoot me......with a pistol.

I brought my 870 Tactical out to show her that when it comes to stopping someone in their tracks the shotgun has few equals.

25 to 30 yards I put more lead on target than she does.

23 posted on 05/08/2010 6:05:24 PM PDT by Recon Dad ( USMC SSgt Patrick O - 3rd Afghanistan Deployment - Day 200)
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To: 2aberro

>>The 12ga sleeps on my side of the bed when I’m not at home <<

So when she cocks the gun on nights you are home...? ;)


24 posted on 05/08/2010 6:07:20 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (The frog who rides on a scorpion should not be surprised when he last hears "it is my nature.")
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To: 2aberro
She's got 3 dogs and a 28 ga. It sounds just like a 12 ga. being racked and at 5'2" and 110 lbs. it makes more sense than a 12ga. for her.

FWIW a 28 ga. is about .55 caliber.

25 posted on 05/08/2010 6:07:20 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Obama: Chauncey Gardiner without the homburg)
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To: AlaskaErik

This wife would stop a heart in a heartbeat if it meant staying alive...as well as offing a dirtbag.


26 posted on 05/08/2010 6:07:31 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: 2aberro

I’m looking for a 20 ga, less recoil.


27 posted on 05/08/2010 6:08:34 PM PDT by BARLF
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To: AlaskaErik

Well, teach her anyway. You might be surprised. Most people are “fight or flight” and if flight is not possible, they can be the fiercest fighters. People don’t realize how dangerous a doe can be. Lots of hunters have been killed by an angry deer. Ask her if she’d shoot someone to save your life, and you’ll have your real answer.


28 posted on 05/08/2010 6:12:08 PM PDT by Mamzelle (Cameras, cameras--never forget to bring your cameras)
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To: BattleHymn

“they were all lost in a tragic fishing accident.”

Do you live on a house boat?


29 posted on 05/08/2010 6:12:55 PM PDT by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.)
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To: BattleHymn

Boating accidents are the #1 cause of lost firearms these days. I’ve done a survey. However, my personal experience involved a freakish meteor. Now all I have left is a big blob with a front sight sticking out of it.


30 posted on 05/08/2010 6:14:30 PM PDT by davetex (All my weapons got melted by a meteor!! No Sh*t)
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To: BARLF
I’m looking for a 20 ga, less recoil.

agreed, the 20ga is good, but you should try some of the new low recoil 12ga buckshot rounds available. You may be surprised at how soft they are.

having said that, the 20ga is a good home defense weapon and will do the job!

31 posted on 05/08/2010 6:16:53 PM PDT by 2aberro
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To: Mamzelle

There are such things as urban areas where the local politcos do not believe that the peasantry should own handguns. A pump shotgun is an excellent alternative. While I have not had an opportunity to check out these low-recoil defense loads, I do like Winchester Light Trap Loads. Across the room, they are nasty but overpenetration is not a problem. One might want to consider pistol-caliber Lever carbines as are used in Cowboy Action Shooting but they can be pricey.
I have done some instructing and, by and large, I have found women to be easier to teach. Many of the male instructors I know agree with me.
And, lastly, never, ever, ever underestimate what the female of the species is capable of if you piss her off badly enough.


32 posted on 05/08/2010 6:20:23 PM PDT by JayVee (Joseph)
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To: BattleHymn

he way I see it, algore was wrong about global warming raising the sea level. The way I figure it, the sea level is rising because of all the guns that accidentally fell overboard...lol


33 posted on 05/08/2010 6:20:24 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: davetex
I think the rise in missing Guns is due to the fact that most Gun Owners are also Dog owners.

Don't let those big brown eyes and silly panting tongues fool you. They know where you keep the guns and they probably have the combination of your Gun Safe written on the bottom of their paws. They saw Sarah Palin scribble on her palm, so they know what's what.

You think they're quietly napping on your bed, when they are actually plotting where they will bury your Glock.

34 posted on 05/08/2010 6:21:23 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (If Hitler used a TelePrompter, we would all be speaking German...)
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To: davetex
my personal experience involved a freakish meteor. Now all I have left is a big blob with a front sight sticking out of it.

Going to need some pics on that, Dave, before this thread can continue.

35 posted on 05/08/2010 6:28:03 PM PDT by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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To: 2aberro
the 20ga is a good home defense weapon and will do the job!

I thought so.)

Thanks

36 posted on 05/08/2010 6:30:07 PM PDT by BARLF
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To: All

In 1940, My great grandmother took care of my grandma and my mother in a little house in a coal camp located in Jeffrey WV.

There was a home invader running around preying on the wives of coal miners who worked late at night. I assume he noticed my great grandma with the kids, so he lay in wait, and around 11 or so, started digging open the window in the back bedroom.

He made it in, the dog started barking, and she got the gun. It was one of those old style Colt 380 automatics. He was turned, with his front sticking out, trying his best to exit the residence through the window.

She opened up on him and put 4 bullets in his ass.

The neighbors heard it, and they came with guns. Said bad guy went and hid in the weeds until a constable came. The neighbors said the goblin kept saying “Dont let her shoot me anymore.”

The WV State Police finally showed up and took him into custody. They eventually tied him to the rape and murder of one woman and long story short, this guy was one of the last people to ride the lightning at the WV State Prison at Moundsville.
That’s my feelgood story for the night.


37 posted on 05/08/2010 6:31:17 PM PDT by Armedanddangerous (Montani Semper Liberi)
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To: KoRn

cool shotgun....fun for the entire family!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Sk98ACokjE&feature=related


38 posted on 05/08/2010 6:31:21 PM PDT by digger48
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To: BattleHymn

“...they all lost their firearms...”

Makes sense to me...when they come ‘round to take registered guns you have a good explanation as to why you don’t have ‘em :)


39 posted on 05/08/2010 6:33:31 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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To: TheConservativeParty
I do agree that certain women are not cut out for handling firearms.

Nor are some men.


40 posted on 05/08/2010 6:36:03 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (I am so immune to satire that I ate three Irish children after reading Swift's "A Modest Proposal")
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To: Farmer Dean

Agreed. Personally, ours is a lab. Our lab probably would not attack the intruder, but she’d make enough of a ruckus that I’d have no trouble finding him for the kill.


41 posted on 05/08/2010 6:36:17 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

I have a S&W autoloader but I actually want to find a cheap pump like a Mossberg. There is something about the sound of a round being chambered in a pump that would send anyone but the most psychotic of intruders running for their lives. And in that case the round would take care of the rest.


42 posted on 05/08/2010 6:50:15 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: 2aberro

I’ve been told that all you need is a recording of the pump-action shotgun - the most recognized sound of “i mean business”


43 posted on 05/08/2010 6:50:51 PM PDT by RebelTXRose
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To: Semper911

Well, darn it, the damn thing melted my camera too.


44 posted on 05/08/2010 6:51:35 PM PDT by davetex (All my weapons got melted by a meteor!! No Sh*t)
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To: 2aberro

She took over my Colt 357, sits in a quick access safe on her side of the bed.


45 posted on 05/08/2010 6:54:23 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: 2aberro

My wife actually owns an LMT SBR.


46 posted on 05/08/2010 6:54:40 PM PDT by culpeper (He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people,)
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To: 2aberro

I have a 9mm and a 45. I think I could put a hurt on someone.


47 posted on 05/08/2010 6:56:10 PM PDT by mom4melody
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To: KarlInOhio

LOL!


48 posted on 05/08/2010 6:58:23 PM PDT by TheConservativeParty ( HEY OBAMA, I CAN SEE NOVEMBER FROM MY BACK FORTY -Lady NRA Member)
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To: Mamzelle
Ask her if she’d shoot someone to save your life, and you’ll have your real answer.

My Democrat, gun hating mother-in-law asked me if I could shoot someone and kill them, I told her I wouldn't own a gun if I didn't think I could and would do so with no doubt in my mind. Her husband asked her, you wouldn't shoot someone to save my life? She said, No, it would be bad karma. Go figure.

49 posted on 05/08/2010 6:59:47 PM PDT by MontanaBeth (Miles to go...)
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To: MontanaBeth

Your MIL is wrong about the karma. It’s bad karma not to protect someone or at least try.

You can tell her a Hindu told you that!

;-)


50 posted on 05/08/2010 7:01:37 PM PDT by little jeremiah (http://lifewurx.com - Good herb formulas made by a friend)
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