Posted on 05/10/2010 7:51:39 AM PDT by publius321
"I just received an email from Senator Jim Demint urging conservatives around the country to help send Mike Lee to the US Senate.
I'm proud of the delegates in Utah for telling Sen. Robert Bennett to take a hike after 18 years. Plaudits to them. Thats the kind of conviction that people who claim to be patriots need to demonstrate (unlike McCain supporters).
Next they should get rid of Orrin Hatch. Granted, hes no Arlen Sphincter, Olympia Snowe or Susan Collins but he runs a..." (continued)
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I’ve always liked hatch, not sure why people here see him as weak kneed, I’ve always thought the opposite.
I can remember when Hatch was considered REALLY conservative.
I guess nothing good ever comes of spending decades in D.C.
I wouldnt call him weak kneed. He can be a junkyard dog when he wants to be. But he’s evolved from a staunch conservative to a sometimes RINO over the years and it’s been really frustrating.
He wasted time trying to change how college football crowns their champion. I don’t want my government wasting time and money on sports. Time for him to go.
How long has Orin been around?????????
Answer: TOO DAM LONG!!!!
IF you were around when this mess was created you HAVE NO BUSINESS RUNNING FOR RE-ELECTION
And what kind of a name is ORIN anyway? sound liberal to me...
At the risk of getting flamed, I’ve always thought highly of him highly.
“At the risk of getting flamed, Ive always thought highly of him highly.”
You should have said “at the risk of sounding redundant”. Sorry for being trite. I thought it was funny.
“...hes evolved from a staunch conservative to a sometimes RINO over the years and its been really frustrating.”
Exactly freespirited. That’s why I ranked him around “7th place” -behind- McCain. He has contracted RINO-itis as the years go by and it is becoming more and more frustrating. There is no reason for him to stay. We need serious people who are going to RUN on serious committments to do things that are going to require outrage and spine. It is time for these people to go.
Somewhere in the post-Reagan era, he started going off-track and valuing his friendship with Ted Kennedy more than the principles of the constituents who elected him.
High? Suspected drug use would explain it all.
Unfortunately, there’s a BIG difference between the definition of conservative as practiced by GOP senators and what actual Americans view as conservative.
Yes, I do like Hatch, also. Sometimes there is more power in being soft spoken.
No, see at some time in the past someone here at FR disagreed with something that Senator Hatch said which automatically makes him a RINO so he should be run out of the Senate. That way we can run new names with zero money, zero name recognition, and zero chance of winning so that we can lose all our races.
But at least we'll have our principles (whatever they are for the week, that is)...
This attack-at-all-costs every incumbent or anyone who ever disagreed with anyone here is leading to the destruction of the GOP, and any chance to stop Obamacare, another 2-3 SC Justices appointed, Cap-and-tax, etc.
I wish people would read the words of Ronald Reagan about compromise. We get nowhere with a take-it-or-leave-it approach, and will ensure that the 2011-2012 Congress is, once again, Democrat controlled.
Dunno that much about Orin Hatch so I don’t really wish him ill.
However, on compromise, I have noticed that Republican Senatorial “compromise” usually seems to involve conservatives giving up stuff they already have and getting nothing in return. Then the Democrats coming back later take a little more. Its sort of like “compromising” with a thief.
If “compromise” as practiced in the Senate was a little more even handed, it might work.
Perhaps it is an accurate assesment based on his approving Tax Cheat Geithner as “the only man for the job.” Or how about voting for the incredibly dangerous Cass Sunstein after he “looked into his eyes” and believed him when he said all his communist/perversion baloney was “academic?” How about never standing against a SC justice since it is “the presidents prerogative?” I am sure others will list more of his idiotic votes.
OK but I’ve heard Hatch be clear and strong against so many dem positions.
It is not a matter of being soft spoken or a good singer. It is a matter of protecting the Constitution you swore to uphold! It is about being in office so long you are more concerned with not hurting Teddy Kennedy’s feelings than destroying our country.
When did you ever see Hatch attempt to stop a liberal SC justice?
He’s morphed into a liberal piece of shit from the conservative I met 40+ years ago!
I think he’s returning to his union roots as an iron lather!
He can say all he wants when being interviewd by Glenn or Hannity. It is what he does that matters. He has been there too long and has been corrupted by the rot of DC. Our founders intended for MEN to leave their businesses, go serve, and go back to private sector- not live lavish lives off the backs of the people.
You mean like Sotomayor? Where he came out against her from the beginning and voted against her? Yeah, never did anything...
Yes, I was wrong on that one. He finally got the point the Tea Party people are serious and tired of giving passes for words without action.
The only problem I see with him is his wish to give DC a congressional seat in exchange for Utah getting a 4th. That opens DC to getting Electoral Votes and even statehood. Not in favor of that.
>This attack-at-all-costs every incumbent or anyone who ever disagreed with anyone here is leading to the destruction of the GOP, and any chance to stop Obamacare, another 2-3 SC Justices appointed, Cap-and-tax, etc.<
No, the GOP has done that all by themselves. Any Senator has the power to tie the senate up in knots and create havoc to stop this degradation of our country. But they are more concerned with decorum and “civility” than preserving our Constitution.
Did he vote for the “non-binding” resolution on Puerto Rico?
I honestly dont know. I though that was just the House, but could be wrong. But I have seen multiple times that he is willing to give DC a vote for a 4th from Utah. Would he be in favor of that if it was a 2nd for Wyoming? If not, then he shouldnt be for it for Utah.
Got it!
Only if they are from the party in power, or the minority has at least 41 Senators. Otherwise you're powerless.
Additionally, you don't need all Senators to be strong conservatives; you need enough strong conservatives to set the general agenda, and enough total Republicans to give them a majority. The power in Congress is not just the numbers you have, it is the chairmanships of the various committees. Sure, you may not have enough votes to get all the legislation you want, but you can definitely stop - at the committee level - any legislation you don't want.
Poor Orrin. Teddy’s gone, and people are getting sick of him.
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