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Michael Kinsley: My Country, Tis of Me - There’s nothing patriotic about the Tea Party Patriots
The Atlantic ^ | May 11, 2010 | Michael Kinsley

Posted on 05/17/2010 5:58:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The right-wing populist Tea Party movement has politicians of both parties spooked. Democrats fear it will bring so many Republicans to the boil, and then to the voting booth, that they will lose control of Congress. Republicans fear the movement will frighten away moderates and leave their party an unelectable, ideologically extreme rump. The press, both alarmed and delighted by this political force that sprang from nowhere, is eager to prove its lack of elitism and left-wing bias by treating the Tea Party activists with respect. Journalists also sincerely appreciate having something new to write or talk about. It is in their interest to keep this story going.

A Harris poll released the last day of March reported that a third of all adults support the Tea Party, and slightly less than a quarter oppose it. Do they know what they are supporting, or opposing? The movement is not yet united on a single platform or agenda, like Newt Gingrich’s 1994 Contract With America, which started as a triumph and ended as an embarrassment. The lack of specifics allows anyone who is just existentially fed up (and who isn’t, on some days?) to feel right at home. No one will demand to know what he or she is fed up with. On Web sites and in speeches, Tea Party Patriots reveal a fondness for procedural gimmicks (like a ban on congressional earmarks), constitutional amendments (term limits, balanced budget), and similar magic tricks or shortcuts to salvation. Apart from a general funk, though, the one common theme espoused by TPPs is the monstrous danger of Big Government.

The Tea Party movement has been compared (by David Brooks of The New York Times, among others) to the student protest movement of the 1960s.(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Health/Medicine; Politics
KEYWORDS: liberalidiots; obama; obamacare; socialisthealthcare; teaparty
"The government’s main function these days is writing checks to old people. These checks allow people to retire and pursue avocations such as going to Tea Party rallies."

Didn't those "old people" pay in to that system all their working lives in a social contract begun by your hero FDR? That's not a "gift" but an agreed upon payment Michael, one I'm sure you'll avail yourself of, whether you need it, or not.

1 posted on 05/17/2010 5:58:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Michael Kinsley, still alive—


2 posted on 05/17/2010 5:59:45 PM PDT by Mamzelle (Cameras, cameras--never forget to bring your cameras)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This shows the insidiousness of all govt entitlement programs. The assumption is that once you're “bought off,” you have no right to complain about the govt.

(I hate statists.)

3 posted on 05/17/2010 6:00:21 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Mamzelle

Just consider the source. This is nothing more than an active disinformation campaign.


4 posted on 05/17/2010 6:01:11 PM PDT by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How does Kinky justify his assertion? Does he just make it up?


5 posted on 05/17/2010 6:01:54 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Hypocrisy: "Animal rightists" who eat meat & pen up pets while accusing hog farmers of cruelty.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The right-wing populist Tea Party movement has politicians of both parties spooked. Democrats fear it will bring so many Republicans to the boil, and then to the voting booth, that they will lose control of Congress.

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“Bring many Republicans to the boil...”? The CONSERVATIVES of America are ALREADY at a boil, and that is what CREATED the Tea Party movement you idiot....and the government’s main function is now to GROW itself and its power. Those OLD PEOPLE made this country, and they PAID for it. You maggot.


6 posted on 05/17/2010 6:02:36 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“The Tea Party movement has been compared (by David Brooks of The New York Times, among others) to the student protest movement of the 1960s.”

The comparison with that group of idiots only stands as both groups had “members”. The comparison DIES when you compare that the Tea Party protesters either have jobs or have had jobs, are paying taxes or have paid taxes, and lastly, love America and the Constitution.


7 posted on 05/17/2010 6:06:05 PM PDT by Mr. Jazzy ("I AM JIM THOMPSON and moderates make me PUKE!!!")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
the press, both alarmed and delighted by this political force that sprang from nowhere, is eager to prove its lack of elitism and left-wing bias by treating the Tea Party activists with respect

"Astro-turf?" "Tea baggers?" If they'd gotten only half the respected that transgendered peeping Toms get, Kinsley could be forgiven as merely forgetful; but he has to be a liar to try to slip this flatus through the crowd.

8 posted on 05/17/2010 6:06:10 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: Mamzelle
Michael Kinsley, still alive—

...and still Monkey Fishing...

9 posted on 05/17/2010 6:06:41 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Eat more spinach! Make Green Jobs for America!)
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To: EagleUSA

Amen.


10 posted on 05/17/2010 6:08:11 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“a third of all adults support the Tea Party”

A third of all English colonists in America supported the first American revolution. What a coinkydink.
(Now there’s a factoid you won’t find in Slate.)


11 posted on 05/17/2010 6:08:24 PM PDT by tumblindice (I thot Mike was dead)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“a third of all adults support the Tea Party”

A third of all English colonists in America supported the first American revolution. What a coinkydink.
(Now there’s a factoid you won’t find in Slate.)


12 posted on 05/17/2010 6:09:31 PM PDT by tumblindice (I thot Mike's head had been frozen,)
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To: tumblindice

one more time ...


13 posted on 05/17/2010 6:10:02 PM PDT by tumblindice (He writes like it is.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Oligarchy gets antsy...when the peons and peasants start gettin’ uppity...they send out the old newshands to try to whip ‘em back in line....


14 posted on 05/17/2010 6:10:51 PM PDT by mo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Michael Kinsley

That is really all you need to know.

Metrosexual America hater.

Gay actually. So a self-loather too.


15 posted on 05/17/2010 6:11:15 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Nervous Tick

Do you suppose Media Matters and CAP gets these old liberal coots out of mothballs, hands them a big check, and gets their “message” out that way? I think we far underestimate the power of money to get these irrelevant old pundits scribbling again, particularly as unoriginal and dull as this offering from Kinsley is. I remember better and brighter prose than this tired, recycled Jon Stewart snark. “Talking points done. Now where’s my credit for $5K?”


16 posted on 05/17/2010 6:11:37 PM PDT by Mamzelle (Cameras, cameras--never forget to bring your cameras)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Democrats fear it will bring so many Republicans to the boil, and then to the voting booth, that they will lose control of Congress. Republicans fear the movement will frighten away moderates and leave their party an unelectable, ideologically extreme rump.

And we should allow a pack of self-admitted, spineless, frightened Nervous Nellies run the country because...?

17 posted on 05/17/2010 6:12:55 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The only stable state is the one in which all men are equal before the law." -- Aristotle)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
kinsley is a detestable little fag.

LLS

18 posted on 05/17/2010 6:13:08 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ( WOLVERINES!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“It is to me a new and consolatory proof that wherever the people are well-informed they can be trusted with their own government; that whenever things get so far wrong as to attract their notice, they may be relied on to set them to rights.” ~Thomas Jefferson


19 posted on 05/17/2010 6:14:54 PM PDT by rbosque (11 year Freeper! Combat Economist.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It is not only a right, but also the duty of free people to speak against every ideology that threatens freedom. Thomas Jefferson


20 posted on 05/17/2010 6:15:20 PM PDT by rbosque (11 year Freeper! Combat Economist.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Ol' Michael Kinsley. I used to love watching the veins stand out on his neck while he sputtered a semicoherent retort to something Bob Novak had just said, glasses flashing under the kleig lights. All the while that inappropriate smile on his face.

Good old days.

21 posted on 05/17/2010 6:15:40 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Samuel Johnson, on the role of a Patriot as, “The true lover of his country is ready to communicate his fears, and to sound the alarm, whenever he perceives the approach of mischief.”


22 posted on 05/17/2010 6:17:06 PM PDT by rbosque (11 year Freeper! Combat Economist.)
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To: ConservativeMind
How does Kinky justify his assertion? Does he just make it up?

He's a Leftist - what else is there?

23 posted on 05/17/2010 6:19:49 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: Mamzelle

>> Do you suppose Media Matters and CAP gets these old liberal coots out of mothballs, hands them a big check, and gets their “message” out that way?

They have their following. I imagine it’s among those who fancy themselves “intellectuals”, but are in reality as dull and humorless as Kinsey.

The good news (IMO): their days are numbered. There’s just too much good stuff out there, and it’s easily accessible.


24 posted on 05/17/2010 6:19:55 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Eat more spinach! Make Green Jobs for America!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

‘‘It is not the function of our government to keep the citizen from falling into error; it is the function of the citizen to keep the government from falling into error.’’
— Justice Robert H. Jackson


25 posted on 05/17/2010 6:22:49 PM PDT by rbosque (11 year Freeper! Combat Economist.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He’s Alan Colmes, plus about 2 IQ points.


26 posted on 05/17/2010 6:30:13 PM PDT by JacksonCalhoun (CT Yankee in NC Exile)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Imagine my surprise when I realized that:

1. Michael Kinsley was still considered worthy of writing an article and that anyone would care.

2. That someone who strains to look so smart can be so stupid.

3. Michael’s picture is actually right there beside the definition of “Useful Idiot” in the dictionary.

We are coming, Mikey... and all of the elitism in the world won’t be enough to stop us.

Our Founding Fathers would declare you and those like you the enemy of Freedom.

We will defeat you in November ‘10 and ‘12.

Remember November
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3APuNTmqbDY

America Rising
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=662R2awSwPQ


27 posted on 05/17/2010 6:34:13 PM PDT by Painesright
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
is eager to prove its lack of elitism and left-wing bias by treating the Tea Party activists with respect.

Oh, heaven forbid. *rolleyes*

28 posted on 05/17/2010 7:35:07 PM PDT by MissTed (I got nuttin.)
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To: Nervous Tick
No--I think we have been ignoring something that should be obvious.

What if these pundits (worn out fossils like Kinsley and others) write this crap for big money, and not just ideology?

I mean, what if the tweets go out to "today's message" and accounts are credited pretty much the same way?

It would explain how those in the media seem to act in their own worst interest, why MSNBC doesn't go under, how these rags like Newsweek stay in business.

29 posted on 05/17/2010 8:46:27 PM PDT by Mamzelle (Cameras, cameras--never forget to bring your cameras)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It is, after all, Michael Kinsley writing in The Atlantic, a combination that should warn the reader that he or she is in for a near-lethal dose of condescension and two-penny psychiatry from the outset. One can't really take this sort of faux intellectualism very seriously. There are a couple of belly-laughs for those with sufficiently strong stomachs, however.

The press, both alarmed and delighted by this political force that sprang from nowhere, is eager to prove its lack of elitism and left-wing bias by treating the Tea Party activists with respect.

Michael, the home planet is calling. Your saucer is double-parked. Now let me see, where did that term "Tea-bagger" come from and why did it achieve such popularity that is only now beginning to wane for those few journalists mature enough not to want to be mistaken for drunken 19-year-old frat boys? I do believe - work with me here, Michael - I do believe that was this "respectful" press. And if it appears to the delusional to be showing a distaste for the very legitimate accusation of elitism, what can we say about a Michael Kinsley quoting a David Brooks about a populist movement whose members neither wants admitted to the better bistros in The City?

Nevertheless, the good Doctor understands us better than we understand ourselves, or so we are admonished to believe. One is struck by the consistent and unanimous disbelief on the part of Leftists that anyone could or should be so silly as to vote outside one's class interests...unless, of course, one happens to be of the Left and possessed of a transcendent understanding of Advanced Political Thought. It is left unremarked that that is itself a class identification and its owners tend to vote, well, for their class interests.

Be that as it may, the Tea Party enthusiasts become, in this rather jaded view, merely a bunch of old people with their - our - hands out to a benevolent Mommy Government and jealous of any other hands belonging to - need I say it? - minorities or other underprivileged unfortunates that might be extended in the identical direction. Given the premise that we are a bunch of uninformed rubes the purposes for our actions could scarcely be other than, well, uninformed, now could they? The good Doctor has just performed a miracle of circular reasoning for a breathless crowd of presumably informed East Coast liberals. We lesser ones can only stand gaping.

Nevertheless, I shall step forward, tugging my forelock, with the humble proposition that I believe in my country as she is and was and am hence a Patriot, and that Kinsley despises her for what she was and is, placing his heart and soul on what she might become given sufficiently enlightened guidance by You Know Who. And is hence not a Patriot in any sense. See you at the polls, Michael.

30 posted on 05/17/2010 9:29:02 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill
POST OF THE DAY!! Thank you!
31 posted on 05/17/2010 9:43:30 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Don't care if he was born in a manger on July 4th! A "Natural Born" citizen requires two US parents!)
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To: Mamzelle

You mean, you think the government is paying them? (or the DNCC or whatever?)

Never really thought about it like that; I suppose it could be. It would be hard to keep covered up for very long, IMO.


32 posted on 05/18/2010 3:24:03 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Eat more spinach! Make Green Jobs for America!)
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To: mo

I find it funny that a guy like Kinsley is writing for and to those who have already reached his conclusion. Lefties need to have their leftism constantly nourished. If not their God-given faculties of reason and common sense might re-assert themselves. That cannot be allowed.


33 posted on 05/18/2010 8:44:54 AM PDT by Oratam
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