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Hearing Will Challenge Obama's Eligibility
The New American ^ | May 20, 2010 | Raven Clabough

Posted on 05/20/2010 11:35:49 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

On May 12, the American Patriot Foundation announced that there will be an Article 32 military hearing that may reveal whether President Barack Obama is a native-born citizen of the United States. The hearing is set for June 11, after Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin refused to deploy to Afghanistan “because the president refuses — even in the face of mounting evidence to the contrary — to prove his eligibility under the Constitution to hold office.”

The American Patriot foundation operates the Safeguard Our Constitution website, which generated a great deal of support for the movement for Obama to provide documentation proving his eligibility to serve as President. Those involved in the movement have been dubbed “birthers”, a term that has generally been met with contempt by the mainstream media and Obama supporters.

However, Lakin’s staunch insistence that Obama is responsible for proving his eligibility has gained some notoriety, even prompting CNN to provide media attention to the movement on Anderson Cooper’s program. On the show, both Lakin and his attorney, Paul Rolf Jensen, presented a series of facts to legitimatize their concerns.

The “certification of live birth” found on the Internet, which purports to prove that Obama was born in Hawaii, has been dismissed as valid proof, as it is a “short-form” document, as opposed to the “long-form” document that lists the hospital and attending physician. “Short-form” documents are easily obtainable. In addition to Obama’s missing birth certificate, other documentation that has been concealed includes kindergarten, elementary, and secondary school records; college records; Harvard Law Review articles; passport; medical records; Illinois State Bar Association records; baptism records; and adoption records.

The constitutional language in question is tricky, as it states that the president of the United States must be a “natural born citizen,” though the term has been undefined. Some argue the term means that the president must be born in the United States to two parents that were also born in the United States. If that proves to be the case, Obama would be disqualified, since he has openly admitted that his father never was a U. S. citizen. However, much of the legal challenge of Obama’s eligibility rests upon the presumption that Obama was not even born in Hawaii, as he claims.

As a result of Lakin’s oppositional failure to report to duty, charges have been filed against him. According to Safeguard Our Constitution, the charges against Lakin are serious and can result in “years of hard labor in a penitentiary,” but Lakin refuses to rescind his demands, as he asserts that serving in a military operation under an ineligible president is illegal. It is Lakin’s hope that the charges against him will lead to the discovery of information to prove or disprove Obama’s legitimacy, which is his ultimate objective.

In the past, however, this has not proven to be the case. Attorney John Hemenway was threatened with sanctions by a federal judge when he attempted to challenge Obama’s presidency. Hemenway welcomed the threat, however, as he believed it would lead to a “discovery hearing,” which would necessitate the search for documentation proving Obama’s eligibility. At that point, the court rescinded its sanction threats.

Any deployment orders filed under Obama that were met by questions of his eligibility have been rescinded. World Net Daily columnist Vox Day writes that this behavior suggests “that the Pentagon generals are not entirely confident that they can demonstrate the legitimacy of their purported commander-in-chief.”

According to World Net Daily, “Obama’s actual response to those who question his eligibility to be president under the Constitution’s requirement that the U.S. president to be a ‘natural born citizen’ has been to dispatch both private and tax-funded attorneys to prevent anyone from gaining access to his documentation.”

Lakin joins the ranks of Army doctor Capt. Connie Rhodes and Army reservist Maj. Stefan Cook, both who have also questioned Obama’s legitimacy, but Lakin remains the first-active duty officer to raise issue.

Additionally, recent ABC polls reveal that tens of millions of Americans question Obama’s eligibility, including many who are in favor of Obama.

In addition to the controversy over Obama’s birth certificate, World Net Daily’s Jerome Corsi reports that “two independent investigations by two different investigators in two different states (using two different data sources) discovered that the Social Security number used by Barack Obama mysteriously coincides with Social Security numbers verified to have been issued by the state of Connecticut between 1977 and 1979, a full two years after Obama’s first, publicly-documented record of employment at a Hawaii Baskin-Robbins back in 1975.” If this is true, not only is President Obama guilty of illegally accepting the presidency, but of identity theft as well.

Joseph Farah, founder of the World Net Daily, has launched a full-fledged campaign questioning Obama’s presidential legitimacy. A petition has been circulated, generating 500,000 signatures from those demanding proof of Obama’s eligibility, while yard signs, bumper stickers, and billboards are popping up asking “Where’s the birth certificate?”


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: 1honestman; 1honestpatriot; 1manvsevil; 1patriot; bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamacon; obamanoncitizenissue; obamathebirther; terrylakin; usurper
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1 posted on 05/20/2010 11:35:50 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

sfl


2 posted on 05/20/2010 11:37:45 AM PDT by phockthis
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Never gonna happen.


3 posted on 05/20/2010 11:39:12 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: phockthis
whatever it takes to get the Kenyan out.....is worth pursuing.
4 posted on 05/20/2010 11:40:35 AM PDT by qrstuv
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Fabulous. If they can force Hawaii to unseal the records that were sealed under Obama’s orders ....... I wonder if all the crap that he has done can be undone if it is proved that his presidency is illegitimate?


5 posted on 05/20/2010 11:41:28 AM PDT by phoenix07
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

IIRC, an Article 32 is convened to determine if there are ground to convene a courts-martial.
I will be willing to bet that the LtCol will get stateside duty and the panel will conclude that there are no grounds to pursue prosecution.


6 posted on 05/20/2010 11:42:11 AM PDT by Semper Vigilantis (At some point we all have to realize that we have enough government.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The fix is in. Lt Col Lakin probably has a legitimate argument, but the military JAG lawyers will probably succeed in defining the charges as not obeying orders of an immediate superior, ignoring 0bamao’s illegitimacy.
7 posted on 05/20/2010 11:44:57 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (The 0bama regime represents an "Clear and Present Danger" to the US - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

About flipping time!


8 posted on 05/20/2010 11:46:02 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Semper Vigilantis
'I will be willing to bet that the LtCol will get stateside duty and the panel will conclude that there are no grounds to pursue prosecution."

The chances of that happening are precisely 0.00%. Unless he changes his tune and seeks some kind of alternative disposition to the charges, he'll be facing trial by court-martial at which he'll lose - easily - and nothing about Barack Obama's eligibility will be entertained for even a moment by the military judge.

This WND is ridiculous.

9 posted on 05/20/2010 11:46:18 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: qrstuv

I totally agree..

I was just “Save For Later’ so I can read it...


10 posted on 05/20/2010 11:46:30 AM PDT by phockthis
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have 2 comments.

1. There’s no question in my mind that the person occupying the Oval Office is there illegally, as in, he was not eligible to have ever had his name on a presidential ballot.

2. Should #1 somehow manage to become “public knowledge”, absolutely nothing will be done about it.


11 posted on 05/20/2010 11:46:33 AM PDT by workerbee (Yes, I hate Obama because of his color: RED!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s going to take ballots or force. We will know after November if ballots will work. Then what....?


12 posted on 05/20/2010 11:47:07 AM PDT by Gator113 (I do not want Obama just IMPEACHED... I want him IMPRISONED. Are we there yet? 2010-2012)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Godspeed, Lakin.


13 posted on 05/20/2010 11:48:35 AM PDT by bgill (how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the POTUS)
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To: Gator113

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


14 posted on 05/20/2010 11:48:40 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Don't care if he was born in a manger on July 4th! A "Natural Born" citizen requires two US parents!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I can’t believe what Obama has done to me through his actions...actually hating a human being. I would avoid him at any and all costs. He would have to hunt me down and tase me just to be in his general vicinity. I can’t stand how repulsed I am of him.

All he has to do is produce the birth certificate and make everyone look like a fool if he is truly natural born (which I don’t believe he is due to the father, if he is really the father). Instead, he would see people court-martialed and have generals wondering if he is really our CIC. How horrible for morale!

How horrible of a man.

I feel sorry for the Secret Service charged to protect him. They are noble people for doing their jobs and fulfilling their oaths for this wicked man. May the LORD bless them!


15 posted on 05/20/2010 11:48:54 AM PDT by scott7278 ("...I have not changed Congress and how it operates the way I would have liked." BHO)
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To: bgill
Godspeed, Lakin.

Amen.

16 posted on 05/20/2010 11:50:57 AM PDT by Churchillspirit (9/11/01...NEVER FORGET.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Very well written. For a blog.

Cracks me up though, that it lavishes such serious respect to the WND and Joesph Farrrah.

(He probably wrote it!)

lolol


17 posted on 05/20/2010 11:52:57 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (PALIN/MCCAIN IN 2012 - barf alert? sarc tag? -- can't decide)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Isn’t the real question whether or not Obama is a “natural born citizen,” which is not to be confused with a “native born citizen?” Obama and all sources say that Obama’s father was Kenyan (British subject) at the time of Obama’s birth, which leads one to the obvious conclusion that Obama cannot be a “natural born citizen” which is a requirement of the office of President of the US. Period. Correct me if I’m wrong, here...


18 posted on 05/20/2010 11:55:05 AM PDT by MNGal
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To: Responsibility2nd

It makes alinsky sense.

What do lawyers want most, an abundance of court cases to be paid for right? Plus it contributes to their Cloward-Piven cause at the same time. Getting paid to actually overload and collapse that which makes you rich, how ironic.

All the money spent to seal the records is nothing for puppet-master soros to cough up. But it keeps all his lawyer buddies busy making money in court doesn’t it?


19 posted on 05/20/2010 11:58:23 AM PDT by bicyclerepair (FR - my online family. From Ft. Lauderdale, Florida)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It depends who wields the weapon, and the target.
Shoot the head of the snake, and the whole snake dies.


20 posted on 05/20/2010 11:58:56 AM PDT by etraveler13
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thanks. I read that before, it’s a good one to keep in mind.

I will not be easy prey to any man.


21 posted on 05/20/2010 11:59:00 AM PDT by Gator113 (I do not want Obama just IMPEACHED... I want him IMPRISONED. Are we there yet? 2010-2012)
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To: scott7278

What about the recent revelations that he was working for the CIA as a covert OP from 1981-1985 when he was supposed to be attending Columbia University?
Supposedly, that is why his past has been sanitized.
Supposedly, that is why everyone in our government is ignoring us...


22 posted on 05/20/2010 12:01:11 PM PDT by etraveler13
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To: Churchillspirit

Ditto Amen.


23 posted on 05/20/2010 12:01:13 PM PDT by Fawn (I LOVE Arizona!)
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To: Semper Vigilantis

That is a most likely scenario. Just call off the courts-martial.


24 posted on 05/20/2010 12:03:43 PM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
Unfortunately I think you are right.

It will be tough to get zeros ineligibility into the picture. Even worse I think we are all naive to think that zero would leave anything at all incriminating in Hawaii at the vital stats bureau. He or whomever is doing the cleanup,and they have done anexcellentjob,must be pros, has probably bought and paid for those guys long ago.

It's gonna take eye witnesses to swear where this guy actually comes from and once we discover them they will disappear real quick.

We are dealing with some real pros here on the cover up and we need to take that into consideration.

25 posted on 05/20/2010 12:05:31 PM PDT by rodguy911 ( Sarah 2012!!! Home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: scott7278
Obama is probably just a front man,hate the ones who pull his strings they are the true power.
26 posted on 05/20/2010 12:06:56 PM PDT by rodguy911 ( Sarah 2012!!! Home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: MNGal

You are right but it doesn’t matter. No one, no elected officials, no judges, nobody will do anything about it.


27 posted on 05/20/2010 12:07:15 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Perfect example of culpable ignorance.


28 posted on 05/20/2010 12:07:27 PM PDT by verity
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To: etraveler13

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2516509/posts

EX-KGB officer to testify about Obama/CIA connection.


29 posted on 05/20/2010 12:07:29 PM PDT by etraveler13
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To: OldDeckHand

Here we go again.


30 posted on 05/20/2010 12:08:16 PM PDT by verity
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To: Nightshift

GNIP


31 posted on 05/20/2010 12:09:32 PM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping List-freepmail me to be included or removed. <{{{><)
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To: scott7278

I feel the same way. I can’t even say on here what I really think/wish. He is systematically destroying America and no one will stop him. I can’t even stand to hear him on TV. I have never hated a president, not even Clinton, until now.


32 posted on 05/20/2010 12:09:39 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: MNGal

Correct, but I can’t see how Americans are ignoring the Constitution?


33 posted on 05/20/2010 12:10:39 PM PDT by ForAmerica (Strong Christian Conservative Black Man!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

how many ss#’s does this presidente have


34 posted on 05/20/2010 12:10:42 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Where is this hearing being held and by whom?


35 posted on 05/20/2010 12:15:42 PM PDT by maddog55 (OBAMA, Why stupid people shouldn't vote.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Comments?

Sure.

The issue of Obama's eligiblity will have no bearing whatsoever on Lakin's court martial and anyone who hopes that this hearing will shed some light on the issue will soon see themselves disappointed.

36 posted on 05/20/2010 12:16:27 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: ilovesarah2012

Welcome to the greatest one ring circus on earth!

Where lies and deception circumvent the truth. See common sense paraded as a parody of life! See fraud of a magnitude never seen before.... uninterrupted by allegedly responsible people! etc etc


37 posted on 05/20/2010 12:19:32 PM PDT by himno hero
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To: Drew68

Where’s Mr. Rogers? Didn’t one of you ping him?


38 posted on 05/20/2010 12:20:09 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Don't care if he was born in a manger on July 4th! A "Natural Born" citizen requires two US parents!)
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To: verity; OldDeckHand
Here we go again.
Yes, here you go again. Why bother even posting a reply? Your comments and your opinions are known so there is only one reason for your being here, and it isn't to give your support for the cause.
39 posted on 05/20/2010 12:20:35 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Drew68

If Lakin’s lawyer is smart, he’s going to do a media blitz. Obama has more holes in his backstory than a Swiss cheese factory and the court-martial will provide a good backdrop for exposing his duplicity.


40 posted on 05/20/2010 12:20:50 PM PDT by edge919
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
You like using bait, don't you.
41 posted on 05/20/2010 12:22:07 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

BUMP


42 posted on 05/20/2010 12:25:34 PM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping List-freepmail me to be included or removed. <{{{><)
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To: philman_36

Can’t fish with dynamite, it’s dis-legal. LOL


43 posted on 05/20/2010 12:26:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Don't care if he was born in a manger on July 4th! A "Natural Born" citizen requires two US parents!)
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To: philman_36; verity
"it isn't to give your support for the cause. "

Support for the cause? What "cause" is that, exactly.

The military is no place to make political statements. This is especially true of our commissioned officers.

I suppose you were all for those uniformed service members who sued George Bush and Don Rumsfeld for conducting an illegal war, right?

If this guy want to score political points, then he should resign his commission and start a blog or run for office. Otherwise, he should take a big drink of STFU, and start obeying lawful orders.

BTW, my opinion is reflective of virtually every career officer I have ever served with, many serving under Presidents that didn't vote for or particularly like or even respect as men. This is why, should Lakin not not seek an alternative disposition, he's going to get hammered at sentencing. Most of the officers on Lakin panel probably don't like Obama, and probably didn't vote for him, but they're not making political statements. Why is that?

44 posted on 05/20/2010 12:27:59 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: etraveler13

Yeah, Yeah, and supposedly Steven Segal was a CIA man too..Anyone can claim that.


45 posted on 05/20/2010 12:28:32 PM PDT by Michael Barnes (Call me when the bullets start flying.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m in the camp that believes the mere production of a birth certificate doesn’t mean a thing, even if Obama was born in HI. The question of what constitutes a ‘natural born citizen’ should be taken up by the SCOTUS, whether now or down the line.


46 posted on 05/20/2010 12:31:26 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: rodguy911
It's gonna take eye witnesses to swear where this guy actually comes from and once we discover them they will disappear real quick.

True, and I think you could have 100 eye witnesses stand up and testify, but I don't think the court - any court - including the SCOTUS, has the balls to rule that he is ineligible.

47 posted on 05/20/2010 12:34:45 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (The 0bama regime represents an "Clear and Present Danger" to the US - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: bgill

“Godspeed, Lakin.”

Agreed.

He seems like a man of extraordinary convictions. He took the risk of accepting dire consequences for his actions in order to have the opportunity to to argue for what he believes is right.


48 posted on 05/20/2010 12:36:26 PM PDT by Stat-boy
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To: Responsibility2nd
If any so-called "real" journalists were doing their jobs, someone like Joseph Farah and his World Net Daily wouldn't be the only game in town. Woodward and Bernstein had a lot less to go on than Mr. Farah.
49 posted on 05/20/2010 12:37:10 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Don't care if he was born in a manger on July 4th! A "Natural Born" citizen requires two US parents!)
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To: OldDeckHand
...and start obeying lawful orders.
But that's the very point of his action.
Can you tell me (as in prove), or him, beyond a shadow of doubt, that the orders he's receiving are lawful?

...my opinion is...
Your opinion is nothing more than blubbering if you can't prove the previous.

Why is that?
I can't speak for another and wouldn't presume to.

...reflective of virtually every career officer I have ever served with...
Most of the officers on Lakin panel probably don't like Obama, and probably didn't vote for him...

You, on the other hand, seem to take some pride in stating or assuming what other people think or do.

50 posted on 05/20/2010 12:38:59 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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