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Rand Paul Should Stop Dodging And Rambling
TalkingSides.com ^ | 05/23/10 | CaroleL

Posted on 05/23/2010 11:36:16 AM PDT by CaroleL

wanted to watch Kentucky's Republican Senate Candidate Rand Paul on Meet The Press today. After a week of sound byte from and about Dr. Paul and his confrontational appearance on Rachel Maddow's program, I was hoping an interview on the more mainstream Sunday morning staple would allow the candidate to give a clearer impression of his views on civil rights and, specifically, the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Unfortunately, he refused to show up.

As a strong believer in smaller government and less government interference in the lives of American citizens, I consider myself part of the Tea Party movement and have been interested and intrigued by the candidacy of Dr. Paul. Many of his positions resonate with my own ideals and, though I haven't agreed with everything he has said, I did believe his opinions on the issues should be part of our national discussion. Then , the day after winning the Republican primary, he made his infamous statement

(Excerpt) Read more at talkingsides.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: civilrights; kentucky; meetthepress; rachelmaddow

1 posted on 05/23/2010 11:36:17 AM PDT by CaroleL
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To: CaroleL

He appears to be too smart.


2 posted on 05/23/2010 11:37:30 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: CaroleL

Rand Paul

NRFPT


3 posted on 05/23/2010 11:37:32 AM PDT by beebuster2000
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To: CaroleL

Why excerpt from your blog?
It isn’t on the list of sources that must be excerpted:

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Or are you simply trolling for blog hits?


4 posted on 05/23/2010 11:39:58 AM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo is very wily)
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To: CaroleL
The really worrisome aspect of the incident:
While I would personally love to bash Ms. Maddow for taking things out of context or asking unfair hypothetical questions, her interview was generally fair and Dr. Paul seemed hapless and unable to clearly state his positions on civil rights and discrimination in the brief exchange.
(emphasis added)

He needs to get his act together, PDQ.

5 posted on 05/23/2010 11:40:08 AM PDT by reaganairport
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To: CaroleL

6 posted on 05/23/2010 11:41:26 AM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: humblegunner

The latter.


7 posted on 05/23/2010 11:42:54 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: CaroleL

Okay, how’s this. Just as soon as the MSM stops glossing over Jupiter-sized gaffes on the part of Democrats, we’ll start caring about moon-of-Pluto-sized gaffes on the part of our candidates. Deal?


8 posted on 05/23/2010 11:46:52 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Fantasywriter

While I certainly agree that the MSM glosses over (or outright ignores) Democrats’ gaffes, I expect better from “our candidates” regardless of what the media does.


9 posted on 05/23/2010 11:53:37 AM PDT by CaroleL
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To: CaroleL

Maybe I’m out of the loop. What did Paul say that was so horrific? [And no, I don’t buy the ‘we’re better than that’ argument. Either we’re competing on a level playing field, or we’re playing into their hands. Take your pick, but if the standards are good enough for us, they’re good enough for them, imho.]


10 posted on 05/23/2010 11:57:32 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Fantasywriter; humblegunner; CaroleL

She knows, but she won’t tell us (unless you venture to blogoland and give the secret handshake and click on their sponsors). The life of a blogger is very hard and they can’t convey information without first making a sale.


11 posted on 05/23/2010 12:18:19 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (I'm converting to Mormonism to piss off Colofornian. But I'll be going commando.)
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To: CaroleL
If you can't take the heat, then stay out of the kitchen. This will not go away until and unless Rand Paul articulates his position in a more forthcoming way. Hiding behind the skirts of the cowardly GOP bosses is not going to cut it. Wonder if they're the ones behind the sudden Rand Paul cancellation, I wouldn't doubt it.
12 posted on 05/23/2010 12:32:07 PM PDT by whatisthetruth
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To: whatisthetruth
This will not go away until and unless Rand Paul articulates his position in a more forthcoming way.

It may be hard for him to admit he is a kook.

13 posted on 05/23/2010 12:44:24 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo is very wily)
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To: CaroleL

We are not even remotely close to being a libertarian nation. I’d have been far more comfortable with Rand as a libertarian leaning conservative were it not for the fact that his father is Ron Paul who is a certified nutcase.

It is just far too likely that Rand believes pretty much the same sorts of things his Dad does whether he admits it or not. There are going to be all manner of skeletons pouring out of this closet, and were liable to find out Rand associated with Truthers, anti-war moonbats, etc, etc.

Republicans should run conservative Republican candidates, not libertarians and certainly no one from the Paul family.

And yes, of course I’d vote for Rand over the Democrat. My point is this just wasn’t one of the better candidates we could have put forward. An unconventional candidate is fine, but a Paul?


14 posted on 05/23/2010 1:00:06 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Fantasywriter
Maybe I’m out of the loop. What did Paul say that was so horrific?

Not horrific per se but he did speak out against the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and wasn't very clear about exactly what he opposed or would do differently.

15 posted on 05/23/2010 1:13:05 PM PDT by CaroleL
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To: Larry Lucido
She knows, but she won’t tell us (unless you venture to blogoland and give the secret handshake and click on their sponsors). The life of a blogger is very hard and they can’t convey information without first making a sale. I do not have nor want sponsors and make no sales. I simply post an excerpt which summarizes the article and leave a link for those who want to read more about the topic.
16 posted on 05/23/2010 1:16:28 PM PDT by CaroleL
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To: CaroleL; Larry Lucido
I simply post an excerpt which summarizes the article and

And cut yourself off in mid sentence.

This is called a teaser.

There is also a term for folks who practice this.

Do you know what it is?

17 posted on 05/23/2010 1:31:48 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo is very wily)
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To: CaroleL

I think most conservatives and libertarians should study the enemy more closely, as they always set traps to confirm their stereotypes. The one that Rand Paul got into trouble with was the Civil Rights amendment which began to grow the huge government entitlement complex. Of course the institutional segregationist policies were wrong and yes, the Republicans were instrumental in passing it, but this is also where Barry Goldwater was philosophically correct, but politically on the wrong side. Doctrinaire approaches will inevitably blow up, as it did with Paul.


18 posted on 05/23/2010 1:48:11 PM PDT by LA Conservative (Abu Hussein is not my President, he is a Marxist Brother)
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To: Longbow1969; CaroleL
>> It is just far too likely that Rand believes pretty much the same sorts of things his Dad does whether he admits it or not. There are going to be all manner of skeletons pouring out of this closet, and were liable to find out Rand associated with Truthers, anti-war moonbats, etc, etc. <<

Agreed -- except I'd say that a lot of those skeletons are ALREADY out of the closet. See this anti-Paul piece from the David Horowitz organization:

http://www.newsrealblog.com/2010/05/11/nine-out-of-ten-ayatollahs-agree-vote-paul/

The money quote from the article, AFAIC:

Rand and his father represent nothing less than a rejection of the Right’s commitment to engaging and assessing the world as it really is, rather than as we would like it to be, and an embrace of the Left’s belief in appeasement and anti-Americanism.

19 posted on 05/23/2010 2:18:32 PM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: CaroleL

Yeah.

Blog pimp.


20 posted on 05/23/2010 2:49:16 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (I'm converting to Mormonism to piss off Colofornian. But I'll be going commando.)
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To: CaroleL
wasn't very clear about exactly what he opposed or would do differently.

Carole dearie.... you lie.

21 posted on 05/23/2010 3:09:04 PM PDT by AK_47_7.62x39 (There are many moderate Muslims, but there is no such thing as a moderate Islam. -- Geert Wilders)
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To: Hawthorn

Yup, this was not a wise choice.

Nothing good will come from having nominated a Paul. If the party is going to nominate a libertarian leading candidate it had better be A) NOT a Paul, and B) an extremely good politician who can defend what is not a traditional American point of view. This is not a libertarian nation. Not even remotely close. A person with Rand’s views had better be able to handle himself and make a convincing case for his positions.

A guy like Rand will obviously infuriate the left, but he also runs the danger of pissing off the right with his libertarian foreign policy ideas. Conservatives do not want to elect Republicans who are allied with anti-war organizations. If that is what the GOP becomes it will very quickly apart.


22 posted on 05/23/2010 3:19:29 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: CaroleL
I went to your blog to read the full thing. You quote Sen. Cornyn as saying “Novice candidates occasionally stumble on questions."

A fuller version of the quote is “...I'm sure my experience, that you see novice candidates occasionally stumble on questions. I think he's clarified his position. But I think he's done the right thing...I think he needs to be talking to the voters back in Kentucky, the people who actually will be able to cast a ballot on whether he's elected as the next United States senator or not."

So you take the "stumbling" part of the quote, but neglect to include the part where Cornyn says that Dr. Paul has clarified his position and should be talking to the actual voters. So considerable context that would be more favorable to Paul is lost in your synopsis. Why?

Also, because Cornyn's use of the word "novice" is used mid-sentence, it should be in lower-case if you are going to use quotation marks, not capitalized as you have it. But that part doesn't affect the context; it's just sloppy journalism. After second thought, maybe a media career, perhaps at NBC or the NYT, might be a good fit for you after all.

23 posted on 05/23/2010 3:47:28 PM PDT by Cu Roi
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To: humblegunner
Or are you simply trolling for blog hits?

The blog-hit-trollers are all over FR. I am really annoyed at the number of half-a**ed blogs cited here now in obviously blatant attempts to drive up their no-doubt (and well-deserved) puny readership numbers.

If a blogger wants to regale us with his brilliance, he can have the courtesy to paste the entire article on FR and give up some hits. Otherwise, I'd sooner he just leave.

I hope fellow-Freepers who feel the same will start a little push-back.

24 posted on 05/23/2010 3:58:11 PM PDT by BfloGuy (It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we can expect . . .)
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To: Cu Roi
it's just sloppy journalism

The default blog position.

25 posted on 05/23/2010 4:58:23 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo is very wily)
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To: BfloGuy; Eaker; Allegra; Larry Lucido; iloveamerica1980
WELL SAID!
26 posted on 05/23/2010 4:59:39 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo is very wily)
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To: Longbow1969

If you look at the new Maine GOP Platform, you’ll see a lot of Ron Paul influences there. no “one world government” “end the fed” “austrian economics”. But the same platform has interventionisme in the middle east. You put 10 people in the room, 3 tea partiers who aren’t big Ron Paul supporters, 3 Ron Paul supporters, and 4 establishment / RINO types, and that’s likely the result you get. The Ron Paul people are able to provide a bunch of libertarian economic detail that the other tea party people agree with. The 4 establishment / RINOs would likely affiliate with the tea party on foreign policy and many social issues. “Legalize it” did not appear in the Maine GOP Platform.
People here who read the Maine GOP Platform, or read about it, were pretty happy with it.


27 posted on 05/24/2010 3:22:51 AM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: CaroleL

In more accurate terms you are pimping your blog.

In the beginning full articles were always posted so one didn’t have to give a hit and pick up a cookie from sites they might not ever visit. That was a big part of the draw not having to click on a site especially an “expletive deleted” blog that may be full of malware or viruses.

(Blog pimps suck)


28 posted on 05/24/2010 8:07:59 AM PDT by Eaker (Pablo is very wily)
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