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Examiner Editorial: Stop providing police escorts to union thugs
San Francisco Examiner ^ | May 24, 2010 | San Francisco Examiner Editorial

Posted on 05/24/2010 10:19:27 AM PDT by Navy Patriot

Imagine you are sitting at home on a peaceful Sunday when you hear buses pull up in front of your house and begin disgorging hundreds of angry people waving signs with threatening messages, shaking their fists and crowding onto your lawn. Soon, hundreds of screaming people are tromping on your flower beds, peering into your windows and scaring neighbors, who nervously begin placing calls to 911.

As the noise levels rise and demonstrators start banging on your front door, you begin to fear that something very bad is about to happen. Then, you spot the police cars and relief floods over you. “At least the cops will keep things under control,” you tell yourself. But your relief is shattered when you realize the cops you thought were there to protect you are actually from another jurisdiction and they are there because they escorted the mob to your address.

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The San Francisco Examiner and related Examiner publications have swung to to some reasonable non leftist editorial positions over the last year.
1 posted on 05/24/2010 10:19:28 AM PDT by Navy Patriot
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To: Navy Patriot

I think I would have met the crowd with a shotgun.


2 posted on 05/24/2010 10:21:18 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: Navy Patriot

Imagine me melting the barrel of my Mossberg.....


3 posted on 05/24/2010 10:22:03 AM PDT by Feckless (Don't care where he was born. The oath I took said "...against all enemies, foreign and domestic".)
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To: Navy Patriot
Imagine you are sitting at home on a peaceful Sunday when you hear buses pull up in front of your house and begin disgorging hundreds of angry people waving signs with threatening messages, shaking their fists and crowding onto your lawn. Soon, hundreds of screaming people are tromping on your flower beds, peering into your windows and scaring neighbors...

Sure I can imagine it. There is a sixty-second warning to clear the property. Then there are 30-round mag dumps until people have ceased threatening my children.
4 posted on 05/24/2010 10:23:13 AM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? You are a socialist with no rational argument.)
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To: Navy Patriot

Then, you spot the police cars and relief floods over you.....until you realize the police are unionized also


5 posted on 05/24/2010 10:24:50 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: paul51

RICO


6 posted on 05/24/2010 10:25:54 AM PDT by colonialhk (Elect Veterans not Lawyers)
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To: Navy Patriot

At what point can you shoot them?


7 posted on 05/24/2010 10:26:00 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (0bummer calls opponents "Teabaggers". So we can call Kagan "Carpet Muncher." Right?)
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To: Navy Patriot

Wow, the Bolsheviks are on the march, aren’t they!


8 posted on 05/24/2010 10:27:10 AM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: Uncle Miltie

I’d say the second one of them touched the knob to the front door.


9 posted on 05/24/2010 10:28:11 AM PDT by technically right
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To: snowrip
The only problem with that scenario is that the DC cops (apparently AKA Regime brownshirts) would have fired on you. As Obama loses legitimacy more and more force will be employed.
10 posted on 05/24/2010 10:29:16 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Navy Patriot
That kid had as many free shots as he wanted.

11 posted on 05/24/2010 10:30:22 AM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: Navy Patriot
Dictionary.com defines Terrorism as: the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, esp. for political purposes.

SEIU is a terrorist organization and needs to be flag and treated as such.

12 posted on 05/24/2010 10:30:32 AM PDT by highlander_UW (Education is too important to leave in the hands of the government.)
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To: Navy Patriot

“Freedom from Union Violence

by David Kendrick

David Kendrick is program director at the National Institute for Labor Relations Research.

Executive Summary

Under the Supreme Court’s 1973 Enmons decision, vandalism, assault, even murder by union officials are exempt from federal anti-extortion law. As long as the violence is aimed at obtaining property for which the union can assert a “lawful claim”—for example, wage or benefit increases— the violence is deemed to be in furtherance of “legitimate” union objectives. By the Court’s peculiar logic, such violence does not count as extortion.

The result has been an epidemic of union-related violence. The National Institute for Labor Relations Research (NILRR) has recorded 8,799 incidents of violence from news reports since 1975. Those reports show only 258 convictions, suggesting a conviction rate of less than 3 percent. Moreover, local law enforcement authorities often get many more reports of strike violence than journalists can possibly cover.

Many states have taken a cue from the high Court by enacting their own extortion laws with exemptions similar to those established by Enmons. As a result, employees trying to support their families during a violent strike are now denied protection against extortion under both state and federal laws.

Because the federal government for six decades has immersed itself in labor law under the rubric of the National Labor Relations Act (NLRA), federal action is necessary to see that violence does not accompany the exercise of powers created by that statute. One avenue for relief is the Freedom from Union Violence Act (FUVA), which targets all extortionate activity, even if committed by union militants in pursuit of “legitimate” objectives. “

http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-316es.html


13 posted on 05/24/2010 10:33:10 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Navy Patriot

I’d also read that they showed up in public school buses. If that is true, I would assume that is a MISUSE of public property. I’d like to know who would have been responsible for giving the ok on both public school buses and the involvement of the DC police escort, because I also read that the local police stood and did NOTHING.


14 posted on 05/24/2010 10:33:51 AM PDT by Kimberly GG ("Path to Citizenship" Amnesty candidates will NOT get my vote!)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
The cops were there to make sure you went to prison for your attitude.

The legal trickery used in this incident is astronomical. The cops were out of jurisdiction, so had no authority to act against the thugs, but could immediately act against a "threat" that produced a weapon, and that was the plan, to provoke the homeowner or family into a "brandishing" crime or other tort basis.

Legal trick: the out of jurisdiction cops cannot enforce the homeowners "trespassers get off my property" order, or any violation of required demonstration permits and demonstrator requirements (like: must keep walking), only local cops can.

15 posted on 05/24/2010 10:37:09 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: Navy Patriot

A fire extinguisher filled with 10% sodium hypochlorite should disperse the scum.


16 posted on 05/24/2010 10:37:13 AM PDT by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: I see my hands

Unfortunately, no.


17 posted on 05/24/2010 10:38:08 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: Truth29

The DC police have no legal authority in the state of Maryland.

Also, Maryland just passed and signed into law a Castle Doctrine Bill!


18 posted on 05/24/2010 10:38:29 AM PDT by catman67
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To: Navy Patriot

The cops were in uniform but acting as private citizens, then ?


19 posted on 05/24/2010 10:38:53 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: Uncle Miltie
You must announce that they are trespassers and order them to leave, then you must wait until they break, or attempt to break, a lock, door, or window, or the employ a deadly weapon against the home. At this point a “reasonable man” would be in fear of life.
20 posted on 05/24/2010 10:44:39 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: Feckless

Ok where is the picture of Clint with his Garand?”GET OFF MY LAWN”! That would be me. Love my Garand..


21 posted on 05/24/2010 10:49:49 AM PDT by crazydad (What)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Cops can travel around in uniform to other jurisdictions and still be cops. They just don't have authority to enforce minor jurisdiction specific laws. They may enforce state law like assault, murder, kidnapping, robbery, but not a local requirement for a permit to demonstrate.

Clever, no?

22 posted on 05/24/2010 10:50:44 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: Navy Patriot
I've read this claim several times. Are there any pictures? Surely someone took pics of the cops escorting the thugs.
23 posted on 05/24/2010 10:50:50 AM PDT by TankerKC (R.I.P. Spc Trevor A. Win'E American Hero)
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To: Kimberly GG

This is a terrifying scenario. I find it especially disturbing if it is true that local law enforcement arrived but did not act.


24 posted on 05/24/2010 10:53:34 AM PDT by bytheBook (When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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To: Navy Patriot; All

That’s what happens when the citizens are disarmed. The founders knew what they were doing when they wrote the 2nd Amendment.


25 posted on 05/24/2010 10:54:12 AM PDT by KarinG1 (They should put the terror watch list online so we'd know who to drag out and feed to the gators.)
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To: Navy Patriot

This was in the SFE? WOW!


26 posted on 05/24/2010 10:58:19 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: MarineBrat
A fire extinguisher filled with 10% sodium hypochlorite should disperse the scum.

I suspect so, but it won't do much about the torts filed.

You are responsible for injuries that occur to persons on your property if a jury so decides.

You might note that demonstrators are seldom sprayed with just fire hoses in the US anymore, there IS a reason, torts.

27 posted on 05/24/2010 11:00:08 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: Travis McGee
This was in the SFE? WOW!

Yep, they are nowhere near the wacko crap that used to be all SF media.

28 posted on 05/24/2010 11:02:33 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: KarinG1
Agreed, the jackboot thug accompaniment was to obstruct 2A.
29 posted on 05/24/2010 11:04:45 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: Navy Patriot

Be still my heart! How are they on volunteering for “sancutary” status for illegals, and rolling out the red carpet for panhandlers and bums?


30 posted on 05/24/2010 11:05:52 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Navy Patriot

It would seem to me that a policeman in uniform, out of jurisdiction, participating in this thuggery, would be civilly liable. Likewise, the city the policeman worked for should also be.


31 posted on 05/24/2010 11:09:48 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: Navy Patriot

I agree completely with the criticism of both the union and Washington police. It is ironic that Greg Baer’s political contributions were all to Clinton and Oboma. I suppose the old saying “You should be careful what you ask for because you may get it” might apply to him.


32 posted on 05/24/2010 11:10:54 AM PDT by etcb
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To: Navy Patriot

If they were on my property, they would be shot...if they were on the sidewalk, I would water my lawn....


33 posted on 05/24/2010 11:13:15 AM PDT by joe fonebone (They will get my Fishing Rod when they pry it from my cold dead fingers)
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To: bytheBook
local law enforcement arrived but did not act.

Yes and no.

The locals immediately required the demonstrators to keep moving as required, and as soon as the homeowner arrived and announced "trespassers leave", they required the thugs to leave.

However the thugs did NOT have the required local permit to assemble, so they could have been immediately arrested and required to leave, and were not.

This means the local police brass and politicians are corrupt, and the local cops were just keeping their own jobs safe.

34 posted on 05/24/2010 11:13:21 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: Truth29
The only problem with that scenario is that the DC cops (apparently AKA Regime brownshirts) would have fired on you. As Obama loses legitimacy more and more force will be employed.

Since they are outside their jurisdiction (in another state), are they considered cops, or just thugs with guns? If the latter, and they are illegally on your property while armed, or firing at you while you are defending yourself from a mob, may they be engaged like any other armed assailant?

35 posted on 05/24/2010 11:15:20 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: Navy Patriot

The Chronicle is the MSM San Francisco newspaper, now. The Examiner got bought up by a religion-friendly philanthropist, Philip Anschultz who funded, “The Chronicles of Narnia” movies, and is now a national tabloid newspaper chain.


36 posted on 05/24/2010 11:16:24 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Navy Patriot

I love liberty more than security. And sitting in a jail cell as a political prisoner is better than walking the streets as one. If leftist scum attack the front of my house, I’ll fill one of my 2 gallon stainless extinguishers with liquid chlorine from the pool and let them have it... nothing held back. Well, yes, I’ve held back the lead. I don’t want to make martyrs, just ugly bastards with burned eyes.


37 posted on 05/24/2010 11:19:41 AM PDT by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
It would seem to me that a policeman in uniform, out of jurisdiction, participating in this thuggery, would be civilly liable. Likewise, the city the policeman worked for should also be.

You haven't been paying attention in class (or court).

38 posted on 05/24/2010 11:20:46 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: dangus
Yes and sort of. It’s what Hearst owns now that counts.
39 posted on 05/24/2010 11:22:54 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: Navy Patriot
No jurisprudential endeavorer, I.

Maybe someone who progressed beyond the LSAT could comment...

40 posted on 05/24/2010 11:23:08 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: PapaBear3625

As they were in another state, they were just thugs with guns.

They wouldn’t even been able to enforce felonies.
No more than ANY private citizen can by effecting as “citizens arrest”.

Which, btw, only counts if you can keep the arrestee “arrested”.


41 posted on 05/24/2010 11:24:08 AM PDT by rickb308 (Muslims need to check with Native Americans & ask how that whole cowboys & indians thing worked out.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

with out a doubt........”911 my family is being attacked....I will be opening fire soon”


42 posted on 05/24/2010 11:25:10 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: Navy Patriot
scary that they can get a friendly police force to enter another jurisdiction to act as escort for the union "demonstrators" as they lay siege to a private residence

President Kennedy’s Executive Order 10998, allowing Federal unions, is what opened the door for public sector unions at the state and local level, which is leading to bankruptcy from bloated public sector salaries, benefits, and retirement plans. Businesses that offered plans like many governments have would go bankrupt. Gov’t entities will, too, eventually, but it will be much more painful.

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43 posted on 05/24/2010 11:25:19 AM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: MarineBrat

If 8 1/2% of the population agree with you, you won’t be in that cell, but I can’t say about your checking account.


44 posted on 05/24/2010 11:25:35 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: Navy Patriot

Wjhat a disgusting and shocking abuse of power by Metro P.D.!

The officers involved should be fired.


45 posted on 05/24/2010 11:30:24 AM PDT by Palladin (Commodore Obama: "Damn the Constitution. Full speed ahead!")
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To: Navy Patriot

The 1973 Emons decision is in the hall of shame for worst decisions by the Supreme Court. This decision sits with a number of other notable decisions such as Roe v Wade, the 1984 decision that forces education of illegal alien children, Keler decision on property rights, and others.


46 posted on 05/24/2010 11:30:25 AM PDT by businessprofessor
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To: Navy Patriot

Can you strap on a pistol, walk out and start “watering your lawn” (including hosing down any scumbags that don’t get off), or is that brandishing, too?


47 posted on 05/24/2010 11:31:14 AM PDT by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: Elle Bee

We now have the jackboot ruling class, and all that stands between New World Tyranny and the citizen, is 2A and the Jury.


48 posted on 05/24/2010 11:32:41 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: Little Ray

As you describe it, if you stay on your own property, you are OK, be sure to order trespassers to leave your property, but don’t verbally bait them.


49 posted on 05/24/2010 11:35:54 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: Palladin
The officers involved should be fired.

Yep, but not likely.

50 posted on 05/24/2010 11:38:04 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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