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Episode 21 of the Shrugging Out podcast: My One and Only Gun Show
Me ^ | May 25, 2010 | PackerPete aka Shrugger

Posted on 05/26/2010 5:25:15 AM PDT by Packer Pete

Based on a listener's request, I expand (briefly) on the couple of mentions I've made of guns in prior shows.

You won't learn much about guns if you already have a few, but you'll get the "Shrugging Out" perspective on them, sure enough.

Many thanks for listening! Or even watching on YouTube as I blog while driving!


TOPICS: Government; Hobbies; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; glock; guns; keltec; pistols

1 posted on 05/26/2010 5:25:15 AM PDT by Packer Pete
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To: Packer Pete
how about some real guns....


2 posted on 05/26/2010 5:49:11 AM PDT by Vaquero (BHO....'The Pretenda from Kenya')
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To: Vaquero

No need to post anything after the 1st pic...


3 posted on 05/26/2010 6:19:11 AM PDT by ExpatGator (I hate Illinois Nazis!)
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To: ExpatGator
No need to post anything after the 1st pic...

that is why it is first....

but I also could have posted any S&W double action revolver, a colt python and any number of SAA Colts or their clones. (I did post a Ruger Vaquero as per my name...)

4 posted on 05/26/2010 6:30:18 AM PDT by Vaquero (BHO....'The Pretenda from Kenya')
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To: Vaquero

“but I also could have posted any S&W double action revolver, a colt python and any number of SAA Colts or their clones. (I did post a Ruger Vaquero as per my name...)”

All fine handguns. I work on them often and customize them as well. I am, however, quite partial to the 1911, and carry one that I built for myself. It has a handfit Caspian frame and slide, Kart NM bbl and bushing, all Ed Brown stainless accoutrements with the exception of the grip safety which is a Smith-Alexander. I finished it in flat black Cerakote and topped it with XS Systems express tritium combat sights with the large dot front. It is pure heaven.


5 posted on 05/26/2010 7:31:49 AM PDT by ExpatGator (I hate Illinois Nazis!)
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To: ExpatGator

mine is a bone stock Remington Rand from 1944...I treasure it and do, on occasion carry it. like for a backup while deer hunting...or just for a carry piece when my back is OK....otherwise I slip my .380 mustang in my vest pocket.


6 posted on 05/26/2010 7:39:33 AM PDT by Vaquero (BHO....'The Pretenda from Kenya')
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To: Vaquero
Um...someone very close to me... just purchased a 1950 production, New in Box 1911. Serial number 243xxxC. SN matches the the SN on the original maroon Colt box, pistol still caked in cosmoline. =) In 99%+ condition with the only flaw being a VERY small bit of box wear on a small spot on the slide, where it should be flat, but has a bit of sheen. Hardly even noticeable. The bluing is a deep black. All original. Took a while to inspect it as the wax paper had worn into the back strap grooves (and sights) and nearly looked like holster wear...but NOPE, just paper and a bit of wax. Original paperwork and brush intact. Original paperwork has '50 print date on lower left corner. Beautiful piece of history.

Still doing a bit of research to confirm, but, one source claims that this SN was included in a production run that was originally issued to the CT National Guard.

Hope to hand this currently 60 year old treasure down in the same condition to a family member some day. But today is NOT that day. And tomorrow doesn't look good either (Lord willing).

p.s. Good news...the seller may have a couple more left, as he bought a large lot of them, some with issued holster wear, some NIB with matching SN box, some with more use, but still in overall good condition and original parts.

/gloating

7 posted on 05/26/2010 8:08:17 AM PDT by woollyone ("The trouble with socialism is you run out of other people's money to spend." Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Vaquero
Okay, Newbie question: What are the major differences between the M1911 A1 and the Browning High Power?

Is it mainly ergonomics?

(Nice Pics BTW)

8 posted on 05/26/2010 12:29:47 PM PDT by BerserkPatriot (There are no 1st Amendment rights without 2nd Amendment Rights)
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To: BerserkPatriot
What are the major differences between the M1911 A1 and the Browning High Power?

browning hi power and 1911 both designed by browning.

hi power handles the 9mm and currently also the .40s&w...the 1911 can handle larger rounds, the .45ACP, .38super and .10mm (bren).....

you can chamber the less powerful rounds for the 1911 but not visa versa....

the hi-power has a 14 round mag and the 1911 in .45 has a capacity of 7(or 8)

the 1911 has a govt mandated grip safety, the browning HP does not.

these guns are very similar single action auto loaders both internally and externally, both designed by the genius that was John Moses Browning

MOLON LABE

LOCK AND LOAD

9 posted on 05/26/2010 12:43:06 PM PDT by Vaquero (BHO....'The Pretenda from Kenya')
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To: woollyone

Rub it in, you dog......
I’m jealous.


10 posted on 05/26/2010 1:37:26 PM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: Vaquero

That’s good to know, thanks!


11 posted on 05/26/2010 1:41:31 PM PDT by BerserkPatriot (There are no 1st Amendment rights without 2nd Amendment Rights)
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To: BerserkPatriot
What are the major differences between the M1911 A1 and the Browning High Power?

A standard size Hi-Power frame is too light for a 45 ACP or similar load. Some of the first 10mm models developed frame cracks, and in subsequent builds they beefed up the frame in the affected areas without changing the external dimensions. If you wanted to build a Hi-Power in 45, you'd have to design the frame from scratch and it would be a little bigger and a little heavier. I think some eastern bloc gun maker did one.

No grip safety, obviously.

Pivoting trigger, instead of sliding.

Some Hi-Powers have this stupid mag safety that won't fire unless there's a mag in the well. Not sure what that's for.

Browning's later work, so he may have done things in a way he preferred to the 1911, but I don't know that for a fact. I believe I had heard it was one of his favorite designs.

12 posted on 05/26/2010 3:35:05 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: woollyone

Colt shipped 1911’s in cosmoline?


13 posted on 05/26/2010 3:39:34 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: BerserkPatriot
Here we go. Here's that eastern block Hi-powerish 45ACP. Hungarian "FEG".


14 posted on 05/26/2010 4:04:33 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Vaquero

Vaquero, I recognize the 1911, the Ruger Vaquero (nice namesake), the Luger, the Browning Hi Power, and the Beretta, but what is the pistol in the lower left?


15 posted on 05/26/2010 6:54:42 PM PDT by Packer Pete (Shrugging Out: "Where Atlas Shrugged meets Modern Survivalism")
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To: Packer Pete

Wait, not lower left, depends on the size of the window. But you know what I mean—the one I can’t name....


16 posted on 05/26/2010 6:56:04 PM PDT by Packer Pete (Shrugging Out: "Where Atlas Shrugged meets Modern Survivalism")
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To: Packer Pete
I pulled these pix off of the net....but it is a....

P-38 Walther...the most used German pistol of WW 2...a technical breakthrough in double/single action pistols...(along with their PPK family)

and by the look of it, a rough example, probably made near the end of the war...

here is another example


17 posted on 05/27/2010 4:01:43 AM PDT by Vaquero (BHO....'The Pretenda from Kenya')
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To: Vaquero

V-man, time for me to whap myself on the side of the head. P-38 Walther, of course!


18 posted on 05/27/2010 3:52:11 PM PDT by Packer Pete (Shrugging Out: "Where Atlas Shrugged meets Modern Survivalism")
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To: Still Thinking

is what it looks like...thick, near the viscosity of a heavy oil, brownish amber in color, almost like a grease. Pistol and wax paper and a bit of the inside of the box is coated in it. Whatever it is!
If that isn’t what it is, I’m not certain what it is then.

Any suggestions?
pics needed?


19 posted on 05/27/2010 7:13:31 PM PDT by woollyone ("The trouble with socialism is you run out of other people's money to spend." Margaret Thatcher)
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To: woollyone

Well, that sounds like cosmoline all right. Or maybe it was a brownish oil and it’s thickened a little over time?


20 posted on 05/27/2010 7:51:16 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Still Thinking

if it’s an oil, it’s quit heavy weight stuff. If it was ever lighter weight, in days past it would have seeped into the cardboard box, but that isn’t the case.


21 posted on 05/27/2010 9:18:38 PM PDT by woollyone ("The trouble with socialism is you run out of other people's money to spend." Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Still Thinking

Thank you for your response – I find the design of guns to be a fascinating subject ( Leftists would find that fact horrifying, but just knowing it does is very amusing, but I digress)

Browning’s designs are especially appealing – someone once said that it’s like he was from the future and went back in time to create those designs.


22 posted on 05/28/2010 11:03:16 AM PDT by BerserkPatriot (There are no 1st Amendment rights without 2nd Amendment Rights)
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To: BerserkPatriot
I find the design of guns to be a fascinating subject ( Leftists would find that fact horrifying...

Like you, that would just make me all the more intent. Anytime a commie is hacked off at you, you're doing at least something right.

23 posted on 05/31/2010 8:46:27 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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