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Bombshell expose'. The real reason the oil still flows into the Gulf of Mexico.
blogster.com ^ | 5/30/10 | JoAnneMor

Posted on 05/30/2010 11:06:12 AM PDT by Nachum

As you know, the Deep Water Horizon has exploded in the Gulf of Mexico. It has been spewing oil from a ruptured wellpipe for over a month.

BP and the US Government has said they are trying everything possible to stop that multi million gallon oil from continuing to flow into the Gulf.

I am about to dispute that claim and offer an expose' as to why that story about them doing everything possible is a lie and a profitable enterprise to those who would make money from this disaster.

The Top Kill method was started and suspended several times. It was being attempted only half heartedly. The reason is, there is no money to be made with a solution that simple.

The real money is in the use of dispersements.

There is a company called NALCO. They make water purification systems and chemical dispersements.

NALCO is based in Chicago with subsidiaries in Brazil, Russia, India, China and Indonesia.

NALCO is associated with UChicago Argonne program. UChicago Argonne received $164 million dollars in stimulus funds this past year. UChicago Argonne just added two new executives to their rosta. One from NALCO. The other from the Ill. Dept of Educaution.

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To: The Watcher

The Oil Drum is one hell of a resource. The only good thing to come out of this catastrophe is that an excellent Website is now in the public consciousness.


51 posted on 05/30/2010 12:33:02 PM PDT by Xenalyte (Yes, Chef!)
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To: Nachum

BS alert.


52 posted on 05/30/2010 12:36:22 PM PDT by verity
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To: maggief
Might as make a little money while Obama and the Progressives destroy America.

Someone needs to end this charade.

53 posted on 05/30/2010 12:40:10 PM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: Mamzelle

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Group


54 posted on 05/30/2010 12:43:14 PM PDT by Monkey Face (I wear a yellow ribbon for my army hero grandson, and for the intrepid CG explorer!)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
Sometimes I think the Democrat Underground has hijacked a thread.

Thank you for stating the very thought I had when I read this.

55 posted on 05/30/2010 12:44:40 PM PDT by optiguy (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them.----- Ronald Reagan)
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To: The Watcher

“There will simply be a series of efforts made until something works.”

So how many more steps until we try the nuclear option? That seems like the most straightforward, though I would guess that unlike the options now being tried, it might forego recovering oil from that location for decades or more.


56 posted on 05/30/2010 1:02:12 PM PDT by DrC
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To: HereInTheHeartland
Not if you are aligned with this president. His regime’s friends seem to come out looking good all the time in these problem situations.

Even if not looking good they continue in the game as the regime redirects all the problems at just the right time.

Remember you are dealing with a crime syndicate and the n normal rules of sense do not apply. Look at all the czars who did not make it to their posts, but still did make it to other posts or positions just as lucrative.

57 posted on 05/30/2010 1:03:10 PM PDT by JSteff ((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.))
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To: Mamzelle

“Someone get back to me about the Apollo. “

Watch Beck as he has gone over who the Apollo group is. Another Obama related organization.


58 posted on 05/30/2010 1:10:25 PM PDT by JSteff ((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.))
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To: TheConservativeParty

A simpler answer: letting the spill get bigger so that they can kill the “drill baby drill” and thus push green energy despite the price.
Another answer: wait for videos of summer vacations ruined by oil spills, use it to push green energy, carbon trading, and shutting down drilling.


59 posted on 05/30/2010 1:11:53 PM PDT by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Humanity's Edge" - on amazon.com)
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To: Nachum
Here is BP's response to the EPA about oil dispersants.

BP's response to EPA's dispersant directive

They cite the studies that show that Corexit is less toxic than the dispersants the EPA wants them to use. Along with the fact that the supply of the other dispersants doesn't exist in large enough quantities to help and the companies that make them can't ramp up production enough to do any good.

60 posted on 05/30/2010 1:20:39 PM PDT by TigersEye (0basma's father was a British subject. He can't be a "natural-born" citizen.)
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To: DownInFlames

I can assure you that BP’s costs including the loss of the rig, hundreds of lawsuits, a PR disaster and the years of cleanup efforts will not stop at $75 million. Believe me, it is in BP’s interest to stop this leak ASAP, and every day that goes by is another financial and image disaster. There is no amount of Corexit that could gain them a profit from this mess. What is in jeopardy for them is the prospect of ever again getting the rights to drill in deep water. This is uncharted territory; no one really knew what they would do if there was a big problem a mile underwater. There WAS a safety device, a blowout preventer, but it didn’t work. I don’t think anyone had a plan for anything beyond that, so now all the Rube Goldberg, half-assed ideas are being tried. Ultimately, they may have to think of trying some sort of explosion down there if none of the well tampon schemes work.


61 posted on 05/30/2010 1:34:15 PM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be who you could have been.)
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To: Sender
Ultimately, they may have to think of trying some sort of explosion down there if none of the well tampon schemes work.

That makes no sense to me. How the heck can you control explosives without making the problem worse?

If capping/siphoning doesn't work they will try new wells to relieve the pressure elsewhere. Unfortunately, that option will take months to implement.

62 posted on 05/30/2010 1:36:49 PM PDT by be-baw (still seeking)
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To: be-baw

For one thing, an explosion at the wellhead would be “tamped” by a mile of seawater. That means all of the explosive force would be applied to the sea bed itself. They would have to ensure that a blast doesn’t just fracture the leak area and cause a bigger leak; it would have to be a decisive explosion. I know that many are saying a nuke would be a terrible idea, but it would in fact melt the silt and sand in the area of the leak into glass and compact the sea bed to the point that a continuing leak is unlikely. Any residual radioactive “fallout” would be heavy and would join the silt on the bottom, a mile underwater. I can’t imagine it would have any worse environmental effects than to let this gusher go on.


63 posted on 05/30/2010 1:43:56 PM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be who you could have been.)
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To: Sender

The 75M is the liability to the public. It does not include the rig, loss of material, oil, and other operations losses. It will easily exceed $5B.


64 posted on 05/30/2010 1:56:45 PM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: maggief

I’ve seen “Corexit” discussed on Fox News channel’s coverage of the oil spill and I think on Fox Business news also.

IIRC, small amounts are either already being used or were tried.


65 posted on 05/30/2010 2:51:16 PM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: Monkey Face
“Ohwellden. Half-baked conclusions come from the uninformed.”

I also don't read the conspiracy theories that pose we didn't land on the moon.
I prefer to dialog with rational people. Life is crazy enough without making up whackjob theories.

66 posted on 05/30/2010 2:57:37 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland
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To: Xenalyte

I have DVDs FULL of nuke blasts. When I get the urge, I just pop it in the player. Simpler than urging the folks with the nukes to pop one off for me.


67 posted on 05/30/2010 3:17:44 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Build a man a fire; he'll be warm for a night. Set a man on fire; he'll be warm the rest of his life)
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To: be-baw

At least two relief wells are in process as we speak. It’s not an instant procedure, so those should be online sometime in July.


68 posted on 05/30/2010 3:39:53 PM PDT by Xenalyte (Yes, Chef!)
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To: Xenalyte
Xena, if I've told to once, I've told you a thousand times, don't play with the nuts!!

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Well not THESE nuts.

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I mean the nuts here not my ..... oh forget it!

69 posted on 05/30/2010 3:48:40 PM PDT by HoustonCurmudgeon ("I'll try to be NICER, if you will try to be SMARTER!" ~ MNJohnnie, FReeper)
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To: Bigun; razorback-bert; csmusaret; TWfromTEXAS; lentulusgracchus; CedarDave; stevie_d_64
Y'all check this out. This guy is up to his monkey boards, in mud, and pipe dope.
70 posted on 05/30/2010 3:54:06 PM PDT by HoustonCurmudgeon ("I'll try to be NICER, if you will try to be SMARTER!" ~ MNJohnnie, FReeper)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

Excuse me? You lump me with conspiracy theorists who say we didn’t land on the moon? Just shows what happens when you don’t bother to find facts.

My late husband was heavily involved in the aerospace industry from the beginning of the the moon shots to his death in 2000. Your behavior and suppositions reek of illiteracy and lack of incentive.

Keep your stupidity to yourself in the future. No one is impressed with your ignorance. Read a book some time. Something a little heavier and with more meat than “Dick and Jane.”


71 posted on 05/30/2010 4:07:00 PM PDT by Monkey Face (I wear a yellow ribbon for my army hero grandson, and for the intrepid CG explorer!)
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To: HospiceNurse
When bloggers make up words like "dispersements", I kinda stop listening.

Not to mention referring to Warren Buffet's Berkshire Hathaway as "Hathaway Berkshire."

Obviously some mighty fine research going into this investigation! < /sarcasm>

72 posted on 05/30/2010 4:08:17 PM PDT by RedWhiteBlue
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To: Star Traveler

Liberals know how to nationalize industries - why not tell BP they’ve got 30 days - then the well becomes US property.


73 posted on 05/30/2010 4:10:56 PM PDT by GOPJ (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php?area=dam&lang=eng)
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To: Monkey Face
Yes, anyone who thinks BP is deliberately letting the oil leak; is in the same league with the lunar deniers.
74 posted on 05/30/2010 4:25:49 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland
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To: HereInTheHeartland

Grow up, learn to read, learn the art of common sense and go tell your mother she wants you. Or go play on the freeway.

Are you getting kickbacks from BP? Is that why you are defending them so?

Try acting your age instead of your IQ. The Shell game only has a different name than it did in the ‘70’s ~~ it’s called, “The BP oil leak game.”


75 posted on 05/30/2010 4:32:54 PM PDT by Monkey Face (I wear a yellow ribbon for my army hero grandson, and for the intrepid CG explorer!)
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon

Oh, I kinda like it, it has everyone in it, but the CIA.

Just an oversight, I am sure.


76 posted on 05/30/2010 4:32:56 PM PDT by razorback-bert (Some days it's not worth chewing through the straps.)
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To: Monkey Face

“Are you getting kickbacks from BP? Is that why you are defending them so?”

I get to the point where the wacky info I see here is too much.
Conservatives are normally good thinkers and don’t fall for the wacky stuff.
BP is doing very difficult work in a vital, dangerous industry.
Their critics are sounding like DU posters.

And no check from them to me; they haven’t offered.
Buit I would accept gasoline under $2.00.


77 posted on 05/30/2010 4:37:34 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland
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To: HereInTheHeartland

You, sir or madam, need a little readjustment of your spine. It would seem your head is at the wrong end.

I grew up in oil country, and I know the danger that is inherent in all aspects of it. If you would read, research, study and question, you might not have such a narrow mind.

If you want oil at under $2.00 a gallon, I suggest you study about the North Slope, about shale oil exploration in the mountain west, and other areas that the liberals refuse to let us drill.

BP stands for British Petroleum, so how much incentive do you think they have for stopping a well that will damage the US? Shell oil is Dutch. Sinclair is American. Who do you buy your gasoline from?


78 posted on 05/30/2010 4:45:25 PM PDT by Monkey Face (I wear a yellow ribbon for my army hero grandson, and for the intrepid CG explorer!)
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To: GOPJ
You were saying ...

... why not tell BP they’ve got 30 days - then the well becomes US property.

Why let BP off the hook? They should keep it and take care of the problem ... :-)

If the U.S. owns it, then the U.S. taxpayers get the bill for taking care of the problem.

79 posted on 05/30/2010 4:59:59 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Monkey Face

“BP stands for British Petroleum, so how much incentive do you think they have for stopping a well that will damage the US?”

So far BP’s company value has dropped by a minimum of 30 billion dollars, that’s “billion”, with a B. And the longer this goes on the more it will drop. I’d say that’s pretty good incentive to stop the leak.


80 posted on 05/30/2010 5:02:41 PM PDT by WatchOutForSnakes
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon

You are just DYING for Betty to smack you around, ain’tcha?


81 posted on 05/30/2010 5:19:44 PM PDT by Xenalyte (Yes, Chef!)
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon; Bigun; razorback-bert; csmusaret; TWfromTEXAS; lentulusgracchus; CedarDave; ...

If I had a nickel for every time I was up to my monkey boards in mud and pipe dope, I’d have like three nickels.


82 posted on 05/30/2010 5:20:32 PM PDT by Xenalyte (Yes, Chef!)
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To: GOPJ

ummmm, nationalize BRITISH Petroleum?


83 posted on 05/30/2010 5:21:12 PM PDT by Xenalyte (Yes, Chef!)
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To: Monkey Face

I for one am getting nothing from BP. I’m just a girl who works in oil, and I know bullsh!t when I avoid stepping in it.


84 posted on 05/30/2010 5:21:58 PM PDT by Xenalyte (Yes, Chef!)
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To: WatchOutForSnakes

A better incentive would be to start drilling in America. We have so much oil under this continent we should NEVER have to be held hostage by foreign companies having an oil spill anywhere in the world.

Who cares about BP’s company value? Who is going to profit for their black numbers? Not us. We’ll still be subject to oil spills and $$$$ per barrel of crude and no one, unless s/he is a share holder will benefit from BP’s assets.

We don’t need BP to drag their heels over an oil spill that is damaging an already weak economy; we don’t need excuses from the liberals and the leftists who think this country should buy foreign oil; we don’t need whiney folks who care more about another country’s company than they do about finding good solid work in this country, for folks who LOVE this country, and stand to benefit from any and all wells that are drilled here and all the shale that is to be refined here, than all the OPEC countries combined.

The truly sad thing is that American oil companies are held hostage by the price that OPEC sets for a barrel of oil. That’s so American oil companies can’t be weaned from foreign oil. We need to be independent.

Who is going to fight for that? And, as an aside, how many natural gas and oil leaks are under the oceans, and have been spewing oil for hundreds or thousands of years? Who is going to clean that up? Any takers?


85 posted on 05/30/2010 5:29:58 PM PDT by Monkey Face (I wear a yellow ribbon for my army hero grandson, and for the intrepid CG explorer!)
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To: Nachum

Never let a good conspiracy theory go to waste. Let’s think about something here....pre “al gore’s internet” we didn’t have second by second thoughts broadcasted all over the world for all of us to consider. This author’s theory may or may not be true, but it certainly deserves some good investigating. i wouldn’t pooh-pooh this quite yet. if folks are willing to believe Glenn Beck as he puts pieces of the puzzle together, why not believe this as well. who knows, maybe Glenn will start talking about this in a week or two.


86 posted on 05/30/2010 5:34:28 PM PDT by Nodems2000
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To: Xenalyte

I grew up in oil country, with riggers, salesmen and owners. I resent the hell out of a foreign company coming here to pump oil, then taking their sweet time before doing something about their own mistake.

If you “work in oil” then you need to be fully informed and not just a “company girl.”

I resent being held hostage every time some foreign company wrecks a tanker anywhere in the world, and I resent the price of gas going up every frickin’ holiday weekend “because it can.”

BS smells a lot like crude, don’t it?


87 posted on 05/30/2010 5:39:40 PM PDT by Monkey Face (I wear a yellow ribbon for my army hero grandson, and for the intrepid CG explorer!)
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To: Xenalyte

I grew up in oil country, with riggers, salesmen and owners. I resent the hell out of a foreign company coming here to pump oil, then taking their sweet time before doing something about their own mistake.

If you “work in oil” then you need to be fully informed and not just a “company girl.”

I resent being held hostage every time some foreign company wrecks a tanker anywhere in the world, and I resent the price of gas going up every frickin’ holiday weekend “because it can.”

BS smells a lot like crude, don’t it?


88 posted on 05/30/2010 5:39:48 PM PDT by Monkey Face (I wear a yellow ribbon for my army hero grandson, and for the intrepid CG explorer!)
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To: Monkey Face

So supply and demand torques you up?

‘Cause that’s why gas prices rise and fall.


89 posted on 05/30/2010 5:41:26 PM PDT by Xenalyte (Yes, Chef!)
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To: Star Traveler

The US is going to get the cost of clean-up no matter what. The spill has caused untold millions of dollars of damage to small busines owners in the Gulf, and whether we feel it directly as fishermen, or indirectly as clean-up crews, our tax dollars are hard at work paying for the ineptitude of BP.

And this is not the first of such disasters.

If we clean it up, BP can write up the losses in revenue no matter what. They drill offshore...over three miles out. International waters.


90 posted on 05/30/2010 5:47:11 PM PDT by Monkey Face (I wear a yellow ribbon for my army hero grandson, and for the intrepid CG explorer!)
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To: Xenalyte

You’re aiming at the messenger and not the message.
If America was allowed to drill its own wells in this country and refine OUR oil in our own refineries, we would not have to worry about supply and demand.

If we had never allowed the rogues in Disneyland East to sell us to OPEC, we could set our own oil prices.

As it is, refineries in the Mountain west and in Texas and Oklahoma, Wyoming and Nebraska are idle because someone thought tree huggers had more right to the minerals under the ground than the American public did.

I suspect you weren’t alive in the days of “gas wars.” No, it wasn’t who was going to clean up whose spill. Gas wars were stations who fought for business by making the gas prices less than the guy across the street...

Get an education. See if you can find some really, honest histories about oil companies in this nation from the first to today. Then tell me supply and demand is what torques me up, if you have learned anything.

I suspect you will still want to shoot the messenger.


91 posted on 05/30/2010 5:58:09 PM PDT by Monkey Face (I wear a yellow ribbon for my army hero grandson, and for the intrepid CG explorer!)
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To: Nachum

I think the conclusions are bunk but the connections are very interesting (if true)


92 posted on 05/30/2010 6:19:10 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon; razorback-bert; csmusaret; TWfromTEXAS; lentulusgracchus; CedarDave; ...

Who pinged me into this den of lunatics?


93 posted on 05/30/2010 6:39:38 PM PDT by Bigun ("It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire)
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To: Nachum

A nit-wit article by a nit-wit author.


94 posted on 05/30/2010 6:42:43 PM PDT by Lando Lincoln (Reconciliation will happen in November.)
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To: Bigun; razorback-bert; csmusaret; TWfromTEXAS; lentulusgracchus; CedarDave; Xenalyte
I think Xenalyte is at fault for getting us into this.
95 posted on 05/30/2010 6:47:29 PM PDT by HoustonCurmudgeon ("I'll try to be NICER, if you will try to be SMARTER!" ~ MNJohnnie, FReeper)
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon; razorback-bert; csmusaret; TWfromTEXAS; lentulusgracchus; CedarDave; Xenalyte

XXEEENA!!!!!


96 posted on 05/30/2010 6:51:25 PM PDT by Bigun ("It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire)
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To: Nachum

The market goes up, the market goes down.... Buffet makes money, so what if we drown.
..ride, ride, ride,.....hitchin’ a ride.


97 posted on 05/30/2010 6:55:02 PM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: Monkey Face
Oh, my gosh.
-watch this video, maybe some things can be explained to you:

http://bp.concerts.com/gom/kentwells_update24052010.htm


98 posted on 05/30/2010 8:59:58 PM PDT by FBD (My carbon footprint is bigger then yours)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

Exactly... these conspiracy theories are frigging retarded.

http://bp.concerts.com/gom/kentwells_update24052010.htm


99 posted on 05/30/2010 9:01:23 PM PDT by FBD (My carbon footprint is bigger then yours)
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To: DrC

what, and blow the hole WFO?
That is a risk, not to mention the radioactive contamination.


100 posted on 05/30/2010 9:05:11 PM PDT by FBD (My carbon footprint is bigger then yours)
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