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Willie Nelson & The Beach Boys? You Betcha!
Grand Rants ^ | June 6, 2010 | Gerry Ashley

Posted on 06/06/2010 10:17:32 AM PDT by BigChiefLtd

It's the week-end... and frankly, I need an escape from all the bad news about Oil Spills, a rude, impudent former Beatle (time to call it quits, sir Paul), a President who's legacy will be measured in how much damage he caused, bad umpiring, a middle east in... well, you get the idea.

So there I was trolling on youtube when I came upon some old friends of mine. And I thought to myself, "Here... HERE'S one thing that's still right in America: Real Music. I'm talking songs with lyrics and melodies that will still be around in 50 years or more. Peformers who have set the mark so high for others, they improved the art form for all.

(Excerpt) Read more at grandrants.wordpress.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Miscellaneous; Music/Entertainment; Politics
KEYWORDS: entertainment; fun; music; weekend
It's one of the most unlikely pairings of music superstars... and yet it's a brilliant merger of the best of two different genres, producing a brilliant rendition of a song from the 60s that was never thought good enough to be released as a single, but now takes on the likelihood of becoming a classic.
1 posted on 06/06/2010 10:17:32 AM PDT by BigChiefLtd
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To: BigChiefLtd

To all the little surfer girls I’ve loved before...


2 posted on 06/06/2010 10:19:49 AM PDT by dr_who
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To: BigChiefLtd

Willie has been hard to take since he revealed himself to be a 9/11 “Truther.”


3 posted on 06/06/2010 10:35:45 AM PDT by Rocko
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To: BigChiefLtd

“I’m talking songs with lyrics and melodies that will still be around in 50 years or more.”

I had that experienced last nite I was listening to my favorite Oldies radio show. Wow, FUN FUN FUN immediately followed by The Dovells BRISTOL STOMP. Few things can put a smile on me than “the music I grew up with”


4 posted on 06/06/2010 10:37:17 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: dr_who

Ah yes... I just can’t wait to get on the road again... LOL!


5 posted on 06/06/2010 10:41:19 AM PDT by BigChiefLtd (They said the Titanic couldn't sink too...)
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To: Rocko

Another reason I believe that entertainers should entertain and keep their politics to themselves and their friends. The only thing an entertainer can accomplish by going public (like McCartney) is to alienate a large chunk of their support base.

Or as a friend e-mailed me: “I’m gonna illegally download ALL of McCartney’s albums... and then DELETE THEM in protest. (LOL)”

Yeah, that oughtta show him.

I say, just enjoy them as best we can sans politics.

ATTENTION PAUL MCCARTNEY: Your rudeness calls for an apology as widely highlighted as your impudent comment about former President Bush. If your incredible ego allows you to admit to your faux pas, we’ll let bygones be bygones, but if that’s how you truly feel, well good luck and goodbye.


6 posted on 06/06/2010 10:47:12 AM PDT by BigChiefLtd (They said the Titanic couldn't sink too...)
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To: A_Former_Democrat
It was good to see Al Jardine with them again. And Brian filled in well for his brother.

I saw one of Carl's last shows in Syracuse with my wife. He sang “God Only Knows” as thank you to all the fans for their Emails and letters of encouragement. I'll be taking that one to my last moments.

7 posted on 06/06/2010 10:48:04 AM PDT by Wilum (Never loaded a nuke I didn't like)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

Amen to that! And let’s not forget the chills that went down my spine the first time I heard The 4 Seasons record “Dawn, Go Away!”


8 posted on 06/06/2010 10:48:45 AM PDT by BigChiefLtd (They said the Titanic couldn't sink too...)
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To: Wilum

Wow. . . .the Wilson brothers left us way too early. Would’ve loved to have seen what Buddy H, Elvis, Richie V and others could’ve accomplished had they lived long, productive lives.


9 posted on 06/06/2010 10:52:29 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: BigChiefLtd

Willie looks a bit ridiculous next the the Beach Boys. They’re all clean cut normal looking American Men, and Willie hides behind his piggie tails and scruff.

He’s an idiot savant... a musical genius, and a social doofus.


10 posted on 06/06/2010 11:05:38 AM PDT by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: A_Former_Democrat
Elvis had already done everything of significance he was going to do. Buddy Holly would have done a lot of cool stuff. Ritchie Valenz was most likely a one hit wonder.

The Beach Boys have become a little creepy to me. The songs like Surfer Girl and California Girls are great when being performed by 18 year old guys. When performed by sixty year old guys, it's embarrassing, like Woody Allen continuing to have twenty-five year old leading ladies when he's in his seventies.

It brings to mind the episode of Married With Children where Al and Peggy go to their high school reunion. There's an old sixties psychedelic band playing and a hot girl in a bikini dancing in a cage. The band finishes a song and the girl says, "Daddy, can I take a break now?"

One of the things that was great about Clint Eastwood and John Wayne was that as they aged, they took parts that were appropriate for their actual age. They didn't keep playing thirty year olds.

11 posted on 06/06/2010 11:08:22 AM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: MarineBrat

Willie hasn’t been sober for four straight days since 1964.


12 posted on 06/06/2010 11:09:05 AM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

I’ve been a Beach Boys fan all my life. The last time they were in the area, a friend asked if I was going to see them. My answer was “I don’t know what this group is, but if there isn’t a Wilson brother on stage, as far as I’m concerned, it isn’t the Beach Boys - it’s Mike Love’s travelling oldies show.”


13 posted on 06/06/2010 11:10:08 AM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Ronald Reagan: "our liberal friends....know so much that isn't so...")
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To: BigChiefLtd
I stumbled across this one and like it better than the original.

I can Hear Music

14 posted on 06/06/2010 11:17:12 AM PDT by blam
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To: BigChiefLtd
The Original From 1969:

I can Hear Music

15 posted on 06/06/2010 11:18:58 AM PDT by blam
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To: A_Former_Democrat
Totally agree. I often wonder that myself.

As I approach my 63rd time around the earth track this week I thank God I was alive for the best Era of music ever.

From rockabilly to the girl groups, to the surfing and hot rod groups, Motown, Memphis Soul, Southern Rock and I can't forget what got me started on guitar; Folk music (the fun non-protesting songs i.e. The MTA).

What an era.

16 posted on 06/06/2010 11:23:10 AM PDT by Wilum (Never loaded a nuke I didn't like)
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To: Wilum
I was 16 years old when this song was released in 1959...it was requested so often that a radio station in Louisiana played it continuously for 24 hours. Unfortunately, Phil Phillips only ever made $6,000.00 on this music.

Sea Of Love

17 posted on 06/06/2010 11:37:45 AM PDT by blam
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To: dr_who
"To all the little surfer girls I’ve loved before..."

LOL! Laughed right out loud!

18 posted on 06/06/2010 11:42:28 AM PDT by redhead (AKA: Morgo the Friendly Drelb)
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To: blam
a radio station in Louisiana played it continuously for 24 hours.

When I was about 12 years old, an older cousin was doing basic training in Camp Pendleton. My Dad, being a vet, let him and any of his friends stay at our place during their occasional furloughs. (They got the beds, I slept on the couch.)

One Marine had Sea Of Love on a 45 rpm, and put it on our record player with auto-repeat, then fell asleep on the couch (after devouring about 8 eggs, bacon and pancakes for breakfast and spit shining his boots until they glistened). The only way to wake him up would be to lift the needle off that record. Then he would complain! So we just let it play, and play, and play... LOL. After about 100 hearings, it gets under your skin. Not a bad tune at all.

19 posted on 06/06/2010 11:58:13 AM PDT by ARepublicanForAllReasons (BORDERS, LAWS and LANGUAGE)
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To: Rocko
"Willie has been hard to take since he revealed himself to be a 9/11 “Truther.”

He cut off his pigtails too.

Breaking: Willie Nelson Cuts Off Pigtails...


20 posted on 06/06/2010 11:58:49 AM PDT by blam
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To: Rocko

Willie has been hard to take since he revealed himself to be a 9/11 “Truther.”

&&&
Willie’s had way too many bong hits. I now refuse to listen too him even though I have always loved his voice.


21 posted on 06/06/2010 12:00:05 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Palin/Hunter 2012 -- Bolton their Secretary of State)
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To: MarineBrat
Willie hides behind his piggie tails and scruff.

That's the view from one side. But on the other side, Willie is a harmless partier honkie-tonk musician who made it big. Didn't you ever hang around with the band from the local bar after it closed? Musicians like that are a breed, the same as soldiers and nurses are a breed. He'd still look the same, sound the same, be the same, if he hadn't made it big. He likes his life, likes to sing, and is good enough that people will pay him of their own free will to do it. There's room for all types in this world, honest. The long hair and scuzzy look is the look of a lot of down-home boys in the West. Could be a cousin of mine.

On the other hand, my grandfather was a Marine ... and a bit of a brat, too! ;^)

22 posted on 06/06/2010 12:04:23 PM PDT by Finny
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To: Bigg Red

I like some of the songs, but I haven’t heard a sound like his voice since the nursing home burned down.


23 posted on 06/06/2010 12:04:47 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: blam

He cut off his pigtails too.

^^^
He still looks like an ugly old woman.


24 posted on 06/06/2010 12:04:53 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Palin/Hunter 2012 -- Bolton their Secretary of State)
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To: BigChiefLtd; mylife

You might enjoy this as well ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16qsYreBJZE
Junior Brown and the Beach Boys ~ 409


25 posted on 06/06/2010 12:10:35 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Finny
Willie & Merle
26 posted on 06/06/2010 12:12:21 PM PDT by blam
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To: Richard Kimball
The Beach Boys have become a little creepy to me. The songs like Surfer Girl and California Girls are great when being performed by 18 year old guys. When performed by sixty year old guys, it's embarrassing, like Woody Allen continuing to have twenty-five year old leading ladies when he's in his seventies.

OUCH!!

I liked Miles Davis because he wasn't playing the same stuff at the age of 60 (though I confess I don't remember how old he was when he died ... I think it was around 60) that he was at the age of 30.

The Beach Boys created music that personified an age group and culture within America's baby boom generation. The music really does convey the emotional and sensory essence of beeing a teen ager or young adult hanging around a Southern California beach with nothing to do but surf and soak sun with your pals. It was a fleeting era, brilliantly captured in music. Quite a phenomenon, when you think about it!

27 posted on 06/06/2010 12:13:04 PM PDT by Finny
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To: BigChiefLtd

Is there anyone Willie Nelson HASN’T performed with? Seriously.


28 posted on 06/06/2010 12:13:18 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Liberty Valance

or this ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=497ZmAsGAT4&NR=1
Junior Brown - Surf Medley


29 posted on 06/06/2010 12:16:03 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: blam
Dang ... this computer for some reason doesn't do videos when it doesn't please, so I can't listen to that tune (I'm listing currently to Stephane Grapelli doing Django tunes on my CD, anyway) ... "Pancho and Lefty" is one of the most beautiful, haunting, heart-rending and soul-strengthening melodies ever sung. WHAT IS IT about that song?????

I don't even know the words to it. I don't even know what emotions or images it tugs in me. I only know that they run deep and the song puts me in reverie for awhile, reverie about the beauty of life.

Was married to a pro musician for a few years in my mindless youth who told me that no matter how nuts the crowd, how drunk, how rowdy, how tired, if the band played "I'm so Lonesome I Could Cry," it was like a lullaby. It is a brilliant song.

Music is very powerful indeed.

30 posted on 06/06/2010 12:23:59 PM PDT by Finny
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To: BigChiefLtd

Look what political talk did to the Dixie Chicks. They are to appear with the Eagles at St. Louis soon and they can’t give the tickets away. As of yesterday, ticket prices were cut in half for the coming concert. Commentator said “I just don’t care for the back up band”...my sentiments exactly...


31 posted on 06/06/2010 12:27:06 PM PDT by GrannyK
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To: Finny
""Pancho and Lefty" is one of the most beautiful, haunting, heart-rending and soul-strengthening melodies ever sung. WHAT IS IT about that song????? "

I agree and I don't know.

32 posted on 06/06/2010 12:29:32 PM PDT by blam
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To: Liberty Valance
"Junior Brown - Surf Medley"

I know that song as Pipeline by the Chantay's from 1963.

33 posted on 06/06/2010 12:33:53 PM PDT by blam
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To: Liberty Valance

Junior Brown is awesome.


34 posted on 06/06/2010 12:34:24 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: GrannyK

That is great news.

I know they had to cancel several concerts for the same reason. I’m sure we will hear how ‘intolerant’ people are for not wanting to spend money to listen to them but who cares?!

Keith Urban nor the Eagles need the Dixie Chicks to open for them. I don’t know whose idea it was to stick the Dixie Chicks in with them! Stupid move!


35 posted on 06/06/2010 12:35:09 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl

You betcha!


36 posted on 06/06/2010 12:52:51 PM PDT by GrannyK
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To: GrannyK

Eagles, Dixie Chicks, Keith Urban Cancel Two Stadium Shows
May 21, 2010

Two stadium concerts featuring the Eagles, Dixie Chicks and Keith Urban have been canceled, according to the Eagles’ website. No reason was given for the cancellations and refunds will be available at the place of purchase.

The musicians were scheduled to perform at Citizens Bank Ball Park in Philadelphia on June 14 and at Hershey Stadium in Hershey, Pa., on June 15.

barbdud (05.25.10 at 03:20pm) I would love to see the Eagles and Keith Urban but would NEVER pay to see the Dixie chicks.

itchycorn (05.30.10 at 03:51pm) The people are lucky that the concert was cancelled. No one should have to put themselves through the pain of listening to the Dixie Chicks for a hour. Shame on the Eagles for sharing a bill with these losers.


37 posted on 06/06/2010 1:30:34 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Wilum

Yes, I note the variety of the Top 40 during those times. The genres you mentioned plus the novelty songs, all the great instrumentals (the program I listed to always closes with “Summer Place”), the Hit Paraders (Sinatra, Martin, Day, Bennett, Martino, et al), TSOP, teen idols, and so many One Hit Wonders.

Even some good country crossover hits


38 posted on 06/06/2010 2:03:37 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: Finny

>>Willie is a harmless partier honkie-tonk musician who made it big.

Put the word “mostly” in front of “harmless” and I’ll go for it. He’s a musical genius, and can take a simple melody like “Blue Eyes Crying in the Rain” and make it jaw dropping. But I certainly wouldn’t want him mentoring anyone in my family.


39 posted on 06/06/2010 2:30:54 PM PDT by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: blam

“Sea of Love” is one of those songs I yearned to ever heard again before the Oldies got their start around “American Grafitti” time


40 posted on 06/06/2010 2:38:22 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: kcvl

I believe the one I heard about was June 26 at St. Louis. Maybe it has been canceled by now also.


41 posted on 06/06/2010 2:45:40 PM PDT by GrannyK
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To: GrannyK

Earlier, the tour’s show in Washington, D.C., also had been canceled without explanation. That means three of the eight scheduled shows now are off. The combined tour is to kick off June 8 in Toronto.

Yet More Eagles, Keith Urban, Dixie Chicks Stadium Shows Canceled
Saturday, May 22, 2010

Oh dear. The Eagles rescheduled a Washington state show for June 15 in Pennsylvania but now that show, as well as the one the day before, has been canceled. Both shows were to have featured Keith Urban and the Dixie Chicks.

Recently, the May 13 show was rescheduled for May 26 after Eagles’ bassist Timothy Schmit had to undergo unexpected surgery and there are those who are suggesting the further cancellations are related to this issue as well. However, with 2 tickets setting you back about $400 it is no surprise this tour’s stadium shows are not selling out and poor ticket sales could very well be the real reason for all this. All I know is that I am glad I am not the tour manager who has to deal with this mess...

http://www.urbancountryblog.com/2010/05/yet-more-eagles-keith-urban-dixie.html

******

There are tons of speculations swirling around the Internet as to why the shows are being cancelled. One website claims the Philadelphia show was cancelled due to scheduling conflicts. Some fans are speculating in online message boards that Dixie Chicks are playing “Divas” on the road and say enough seats aren’t being filled for their opening act slot. While others are saying drug problems for Eagles bassist Timothy Schmit is the reason for the cancellations.

In all of the digging I have done to try to find out the reason behind the cancellations it looks as if no one is pointing the finger at Keith Urban. Who knows why these things happen and some sources say more cancellations may occur.

http://www.countrymusictattletale.com/2010/05/21/why-are-eagles-dixie-chicks-and-keith-urban-cancelling-stadium-shows

Dave says:
Blame on this in all likelihood falls on the shoulders of Don Henley. Yes, the same guy who is leading the charge against radio stations with his support of the Performance Tax. The tix were probably priced at $200 because of Henley. Bank on it. Hey Don, in case you didn’t notice we almost got 10% unemployment in this country. Go smoke that fact in the halls of your Beverly Hills mansion. GREEDY SOB.

John Galt says:
Peop-le in Hershey still remember paying huge bucks for a Crosy, Stills, Nash, and Young show a couple years back and walking out as it turned into a political rant. Many won’t pay if the Dixie Chicks are on the bill. Natalie Whatshername is free to her opinions and can yap all she wants, but nobody paying to hear music wants to hear it at a show. Sort of a case of ‘fool me once......’


42 posted on 06/06/2010 3:25:00 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: GrannyK

This is funny (IMO)...

Saturday headliner Taylor Swift ranks among the most popular acts in music, country or otherwise. The current leg of the 20-year-old superstar’s “Fearless” tour is doing massive business. Sales for her sold-out June stop at Gillette Stadium outside Boston far outpaced those for the Eagles/Dixie Chicks/Keith Urban show at the same venue.

And, I LOVE KEITH URBAN’S MUSIC, his concerts are outstanding! It must be the Dixie Chicks! I have no interest in seeing the Eagles either.


43 posted on 06/06/2010 3:29:10 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: MarineBrat

Okay, “mostly harmless” it is — I can go for that! I expect that you’d do a good enough job of raising your kids with solid right values that even if Willie did end up in their path as a mentor, they’d take what good he had to offer and pass on the bad stuff. I hope you have kids — methinks you’d be a good parent.


44 posted on 06/07/2010 8:30:26 AM PDT by Finny
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To: Richard Kimball

On one hand, I understand your thoughts about “60 year-old guys singing Surfer Girl” but let’s keep the proper perspective:

The Beach Boys aren’t singing about things they do, they are singing about a lifestyle that is endless. Kids today relate to their music and “The Girls On The Beach” but within their own generation.

This particular song, “The Warmth of the Sun” is not a song that is aimed specifically at just the young. It’s about loss. In fact, the song was written by Brian Wilson on the night of November 22nd, 1963. Earlier in the day, President Kennedy had been assassinated. Brian was inspired to write about the loss of someone that means a lot to him. He wrote the entire song in one night (which, when you think about the chord progressions, is pretty incredible) but decided instead of making it about the loss of Kennedy he would make it a universal story about losing “someone” close to you. It worked then, and nearly 50 years later, it still does.

I haven’t seen the Beach Boys in concert since Carl died. It’s now down to just one original member (Mike Love) and Bruce Johnston. Although Al is in the video, that was done before Carl died so that puts it PRE-1998. I prefer to think of the Beach Boys as they were back in this timeframe. As for Willie... well, he’s always sounded like an old man and that’s part of his charm. I disagree with his politics, but that’s OK. My only concern for him is as a singer and he’s one of the best in the country genre. He IS country.


45 posted on 06/15/2010 11:01:12 AM PDT by BigChiefLtd (They said the Titanic couldn't sink too...)
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To: Right Cal Gal

I couldn’t agree more. Nothing against Mike, but to call a group of unknown musicians the BeachBoys simply because he’s the front man? It’s a sham and I refuse to see that act. It’s not the Beach Boys. Not even close. But they still do well on the road, but primarily the audiences are made up of folks too young to know the difference... they just like the songs. And that’s fine with me. Just don’t ask me to go. I’ll let you in on a little secret: Carl and Denny were friends of mine. Without them, there’s NO Beach Boys.


46 posted on 06/15/2010 11:07:16 AM PDT by BigChiefLtd (They said the Titanic couldn't sink too...)
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To: Wilum

Sorry to disappoint you, but Al wasn’t “with them again.” This was recorded before Carl died and while Al was still in the group. He left after Carl died, admitting that without Carl it was time to call it quits. I mean, come on... The Beach Boys with all THREE of the Wilson brothers absent? That would be like having McCartney and Starr going back on the road with a bunch of back-up musicians calling themselves “The Beatles.”


47 posted on 06/15/2010 11:09:51 AM PDT by BigChiefLtd (They said the Titanic couldn't sink too...)
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To: kcvl; wardaddy

I paid $75 for 2nd row center stage on the first reunion tour in the early 90s. It was good, but I ain’t payin $400 to see the iggles especially with big mouth nat up on stage


48 posted on 06/15/2010 11:14:43 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: GrannyK

While I believe that singers have the right to their political views, the moment they use their stage as a soap box for proselytizing (that’s clean... I looked it up), they are guaranteed to alienate a chunk of their audience. But so great are the egos of some of these performers that they just ASSUME we all want their “expert” viewpoints in the middle of their damn show.

Dixie Chicks learned the hard way. I don’t think the Eagles ever did learn... even though I love their misic. I think it’s a COLLOSSAL mistake for the Eagles to take the DCs on the road as their opening act. Too many toxins.


49 posted on 06/15/2010 11:25:35 AM PDT by BigChiefLtd (They said the Titanic couldn't sink too...)
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