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Traffic Camera Victim ‘Pays Back’ Police Dept.
Nanny State Liberation Front ^ | 06/09/2010

Posted on 06/09/2010 8:11:25 AM PDT by HandsOffMyFreedom

If you’ve ever been issued a traffic ticket by a red light or speeding camera, you will revel in the bittersweet justice one luck recipient bestowed upon his local nanny state police department.

Upon receiving a speeding ticket in the mail, Brian McCrary followed the citation’s payment instructions and attempted to pay his $90 fine on the Bluff City Police Department’s (BCPD) website. Much to his surprise, he discovered its domain name was about to expire.

Instead of paying his fine, McCrary saw it as a rare opportunity to literally ‘pay back’ the police department for violating his civil liberties with ‘Big Brother’ traffic cameras ...

(Excerpt) Read more at nannystateliberationfront.wordpress.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Humor; Local News; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: biggovernment; crime; internet; libertarian; nannystate; policestate; redlightcameras; revenuetickets
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1 posted on 06/09/2010 8:11:26 AM PDT by HandsOffMyFreedom
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To: HandsOffMyFreedom

That is hilarious...guess the ticket revenue is going to be going down in the aptly named “Bluff” City.


2 posted on 06/09/2010 8:15:46 AM PDT by erkyl (We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office --Aesop (~550 BC))
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To: HandsOffMyFreedom

Bwahahahahahahaaaaaaa!!!

Brilliant!
Kudos to Mr. McCrary!


3 posted on 06/09/2010 8:16:09 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: HandsOffMyFreedom

How funny if he sold it back to them for $90....


4 posted on 06/09/2010 8:17:10 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (We're coming for you....)
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To: HandsOffMyFreedom

So, help us with this...

A guy breaks the law by running a red light, almost killing someone (probably) and thinks it is a violation of his civil liberties that he gets a ticket by machine?

To punish those who are trying to keep kids from getting killed by this doofus, he buys their domain and publishes slams against law enforcement. He needs to meet Joe Arpaio.

There are too many anarchy kooks running around thinking no rules are the equivalent to freedom. Wake up guys.


5 posted on 06/09/2010 8:20:40 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: Niteranger68
How funny if he sold it back to them for $90....

Plus a small "donation" to the "charity of your choice".

6 posted on 06/09/2010 8:21:06 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: Dutchboy88
thinks it is a violation of his civil liberties that he gets a ticket by machine?

It is, despite your bogus, cheezey editorialization.

7 posted on 06/09/2010 8:22:14 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: Dutchboy88

This is about city revenue and not public safety. Cities turn them off when they stop bringing in the revenue (because of compliance).

They have to split the ticket money with a private corporation that makes and maintains the boxes.


8 posted on 06/09/2010 8:22:19 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Throw the bums out in 2010.)
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To: HandsOffMyFreedom

A neighbor had a good story about receiving one of these ‘pictures of you running a red’ tickets in the mail. He sent them a picture of a hundred dollar bill. About a week later someone at the DMV with a sense of humor sent him a picture of a set of handcuffs. I still think he told them to get lost.


9 posted on 06/09/2010 8:22:26 AM PDT by Track9 (A good education is knowing what truly sets you free.. and then crushing liberals with it)
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To: Dutchboy88

You forgot to mention all of the cute puppies and old ladies that this miscreant has probably already mowed down.


10 posted on 06/09/2010 8:25:01 AM PDT by thecabal (Destroy Progressivism)
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To: HandsOffMyFreedom

“If you open up a website and let it go down, somebody can buy it – I did not know that.”

This is one of many reasons I don’t think government has the competence to run health care. Can you picture a private sector firm placing its Web site into the hands of someone this clueless?


11 posted on 06/09/2010 8:27:17 AM PDT by DrC
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To: Dutchboy88
I am totally against running red lights or "just" making the yellow like a lot of buffoons do......I've stopped for a yellow/red light only to have people from behind me in the other lane speed thru the intersection!

however having cameras everywhere to spy on people is NOT the way I want the law enforced...

how would you feel about a camera in the restroom to make sure you wash your hands for a full 10 secs and if you didn't, an alarm would go off?...maybe a citation and a fee?

12 posted on 06/09/2010 8:27:28 AM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry
how would you feel about a camera in the restroom to make sure you wash your hands for a full 10 secs and if you didn't, an alarm would go off?...maybe a citation and a fee?

My wife wants a camera in our bathroom to make sure I put the lid down.

13 posted on 06/09/2010 8:28:56 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Dutchboy88

Your comment might carry some weight if not for the gross editorializing of the incident. “almost killing someone (probably)” “those who are trying to keep kids from getting killed by this doofus”. I mean, come on, where were the puppies and bunnies in this story??

I agree that you can take the Libertarian ideal to an extreme, but you can’t argue against it with fabricated details of an actual event.


14 posted on 06/09/2010 8:28:58 AM PDT by Honor above all (I'm only here to help.)
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To: HandsOffMyFreedom

A schadenfreude moment!

[shahd-n-froi-duh]


15 posted on 06/09/2010 8:29:52 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: Dutchboy88

I see no indication of the driver running a red light, it was a speeding ticket.


16 posted on 06/09/2010 8:30:43 AM PDT by isom35
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To: Dutchboy88
Way to read the story...it was a speeding ticket.

Fail.

17 posted on 06/09/2010 8:31:07 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: HandsOffMyFreedom

These are the easiest tickets in the world to beat, but it will cost you a short day in court.

The main street in my town, has become something like a scene from Orwell. Multiple school zones, tricky hours, tons of cops, no walking students, govt signs EVERYWHERE about bike zones. THere are camera machines everywhere.


18 posted on 06/09/2010 8:31:41 AM PDT by Professional
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To: HandsOffMyFreedom
Instead of paying his fine, McCrary saw it as a rare opportunity to literally ‘pay back’ the police department for violating his civil liberties with ‘Big Brother’ traffic cameras ...

I wasn't aware that speeding, hence endangering the lives of others, was a "civil liberty".

In any event, the City of Bluff City VA has instructed it's citizens to call Brian McCrary in the event they are about to be robbed, raped or murdered; young Brian will then be able to teach those who are truly victims the finer points of civil libertarianism.

Freeper keyword "cop hater".

19 posted on 06/09/2010 8:31:44 AM PDT by aSeattleConservative
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To: cherry
how would you feel about a camera in the restroom to make sure you wash your hands for a full 10 secs and if you didn't, an alarm would go off?...maybe a citation and a fee?

With some people (especially in restaurants)... this could only be a plus... *chuckle*

20 posted on 06/09/2010 8:31:45 AM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: Dutchboy88

Probably not almost killing someone. Red light cameras mostly get people who just missed the yellow, and most municipalities have a time frame when all lights are red. The cameras are just the government taking an ownership mentality to us, they don’t stop the dangerous red light runners, and they don’t save lives.

http://www.ridelust.com/red-light-cameras-just-dont-work/


21 posted on 06/09/2010 8:33:01 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: Dutchboy88

There’s someone else with common sense on here? Kudos!


22 posted on 06/09/2010 8:33:31 AM PDT by aSeattleConservative
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To: HandsOffMyFreedom
Payback's a b!tch! Glad someone finally got even with Big Brother! Never heard of the Nanny State Liberation Front either, but checked out their
23 posted on 06/09/2010 8:35:20 AM PDT by victorybeyond2010
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To: cherry
how would you feel about a camera in the restroom to make sure you wash your hands for a full 10 secs

See the movie Demolition Man.

"You are fined one credit for a violation of the Verbal Morality Statute. "

24 posted on 06/09/2010 8:37:58 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: thecabal
He didn't just go through a red light. He single-handedly broke the Gaza blockade and mowed down an entire family of care-bears and Unicorns who were "just turning their lives around".

Then he reversed gears and ran over the cure for cancer. The effrontery of the man!

25 posted on 06/09/2010 8:39:59 AM PDT by agere_contra (Obama did more damage to the Gulf economy in one day than Pemex/Ixtoc did in nine months)
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To: HandsOffMyFreedom

This guy is awesome!


26 posted on 06/09/2010 8:41:43 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: agere_contra

LMAO!!!!


27 posted on 06/09/2010 8:42:07 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Dutchboy88

Guy, does your p***y itch or something? Relax!


28 posted on 06/09/2010 8:42:11 AM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/ - via iPhone from Tokyo.)
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To: Dutchboy88
It's OK for the local government to take money from legitimate citizens, for alleged safety purposes, yet government at all levels, stands by and watches and even aids and abets a violent illegal invasion of millions?

A violent invasion which has left hundreds of thousands of Americans dead or harmed by this violent invasion?

29 posted on 06/09/2010 8:45:31 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Niteranger68

I would sell it back for 9000


30 posted on 06/09/2010 8:45:56 AM PDT by dila813
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To: HandsOffMyFreedom

I’ve read that rear-end collisions are being caused by these cameras. Do you think we can conclude they’re money makers and not for traffic safety?


31 posted on 06/09/2010 8:46:07 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead (Clean the RAT/RINO Sewer in 2010 and 2012)
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To: aSeattleConservative
I wasn't aware that speeding, hence endangering the lives of others, was a "civil liberty".

That's because you live in Seattle where it's considered right and proper to call the city hotline to report speeders. Hence the multitude of "Report Speeders" signs posted along the highways around there.

32 posted on 06/09/2010 8:46:12 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: Dutchboy88

We have those cameras in our town. If you stop with your bumper over the white line, you get a ticket. Yesterday, I was ridding with my daughter who only has a learners permit. We came upon one of those intersections and the light turned yellow when we were far too close to stop. My daughter practically skidded trying to stop in time while the car behind us was inches away trying to avoid hitting us. I ask her why she did that and she said, “ It’s one of those that takes your picture.” I feel those are actually MORE likely to cause a crash.


33 posted on 06/09/2010 8:46:48 AM PDT by Boiling point (Beck / Palin 2012)
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To: Dutchboy88

Red light cameras are not about safety. They are about revenue.

Post a cop at the light and hand out tickets the old fashioned way.


34 posted on 06/09/2010 8:49:14 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: a fool in paradise
They have to split the ticket money with a private corporation that makes and maintains the boxes.

They don't have to. They could use union government employees to do all that. It's not like they're very busy. But instead of a 50% loss of ticket revenue, it would cost them 200% of revenue.

35 posted on 06/09/2010 8:50:26 AM PDT by Reeses (Sowcialist: a voter bought with food stamps)
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To: HandsOffMyFreedom

Actual news article, not filtered through a blog.

http://www2.tricities.com/tri/news/local/article/anti-speed_camera_activist_nabs_bluff_city_pds_expiring_web_domain/47244/?ik


36 posted on 06/09/2010 8:51:08 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: aSeattleConservative
In any event, the City of Bluff City VA has instructed it's citizens to call Brian McCrary in the event they are about to be robbed, raped or murdered; young Brian will then be able to teach those who are truly victims the finer points of civil libertarianism.

People shouldn't report rapes, robbery, murders, aid calls, etc. via the web. That's what 9-1-1 is for.
37 posted on 06/09/2010 8:51:31 AM PDT by Gomez (killer of threads)
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To: Gomez

Again, since young Brian McClary seems to think that police services are a joke, perhaps the people that are in need of them should call him.


38 posted on 06/09/2010 8:54:29 AM PDT by aSeattleConservative
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To: ExTexasRedhead

I don’t think the cameras cause rear end collisions. It’s the people behind you that aren’t paying attention.


39 posted on 06/09/2010 8:55:46 AM PDT by jerri (Is it over yet?)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

And the attributes of people speeding recklessly down the highway in Texas are?


40 posted on 06/09/2010 8:56:32 AM PDT by aSeattleConservative
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To: aSeattleConservative
Freeper keyword "cop hater".

A camera is NOT a cop.

Enjoy your next drive through Lynnwood, but watch out for the cameras and short yellows.........
41 posted on 06/09/2010 8:57:29 AM PDT by rickomatic
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To: jerri
I don’t think the cameras cause rear end collisions. It’s the people behind you that aren’t paying attention.

Should we also have cameras posted along all roadways looking for those not paying attention and following too closely?

42 posted on 06/09/2010 8:58:48 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: aSeattleConservative

Par for the course. Slower traffic keep right.


43 posted on 06/09/2010 8:59:26 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: dragnet2

Sure. Call ‘em PATRIOT Cameras and say they’re for catching terrorists. People will applaud.


44 posted on 06/09/2010 9:02:04 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: jerri

It’s because the person that realizes the light is changing, slams on their brakes in order to not get a ticket. The person behind them slams into them expecting them to go through the light. I read an article about this last week. Some cities are taking them out because the rear-end collisions have doubled and tripled.


45 posted on 06/09/2010 9:02:51 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead (Clean the RAT/RINO Sewer in 2010 and 2012)
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To: HandsOffMyFreedom

Funny story. I realize people don’t like the cameras—smacks of Big Brother. But substantively, I don’t see a difference between a camera spying on traffic and a cop spying on traffic.


46 posted on 06/09/2010 9:05:08 AM PDT by Huck (Q: How can you tell a party is in the majority? A: They're complaining about the fillibuster.)
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To: Dutchboy88
...and thinks it is a violation of his civil liberties that he gets a ticket by machine?

The Sixth Amendment protects the people's right "to be confronted with the witnesses against him." You cannot confront a machine, nor compel the machine to appear in court to be cross-examined. A machine does not accuse, nor offer testimony.

I suppose the red-light camera would be okay if it were paired with a police officer at the same site to witness the infraction and then corroborate the photo taken by the machine as evidence, but then that would defeat the purpose of the machine in the first place.

-PJ

47 posted on 06/09/2010 9:06:01 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ("Comprehensive" reform bills only end up as incomprehensible messes.)
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To: Dutchboy88

“There are too many anarchy kooks running around thinking no rules are the equivalent to freedom. Wake up guys.”

No, it also has to do with the expectations of a free society. If every aspect of citizen behavior is constantly monitored by big brother, the message is overwhelmingly clear - citizens are not to be trusted.

Let’s see. If you have a late GM car, it can be shut down by remote control. If you have a new Smart Meter from the utility company, they can cut your power with the push of a button. If you’re a bit late making it through the intersection, the camera flashes and the fine here is $451. Go too fast? Same thing.

Add to that the war on drivers and the automobile here in California. ALL of our Bay Area bridge tolls just went up to $5! License and registration fees just doubled - I just got a notice of delinquent registration for my motorcycle (it was under a cover obscuring the tag, and I wasn’t sent the original registration renewal), and it cost me $497 for renewal! For a MOTORCYCLE!! Many of our formally four lane streets are now two lanes, with a huge amount of asphalt given to bike lines (who don’t pay road taxes OR bother to stop for red lights).

What this all adds up to is a wholesale clampdown on the cost of on demand transportation, which is just another way to further reduce individual freedom.

Worse, it appears that our masters no longer expect drivers to exercise caution and personal responsibility. They’d much rather just use bad driving as a cash cow, with astronomical recent increases in fines and fees.

And don’t get me started on the illegals here with no license, no insurance, no registration. Of course, there’s no penalty for them when they cause accidents, if they can run fast enough...


48 posted on 06/09/2010 9:08:23 AM PDT by Tigerized (pursuingliberty.com)
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To: aSeattleConservative
Freeper keyword

Here's one for you: "dramaqueen"

49 posted on 06/09/2010 9:08:47 AM PDT by TankerKC (R.I.P. Spc Trevor A. Win'E American Hero)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

While collisions have gone up fatalities have gone down. No I can’t find the link where I read this. The conclusion was that the rear end collision when someone was trying to stop for a light was far less dangerous that someone getting T-boned by someone running a red light.


50 posted on 06/09/2010 9:12:13 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath
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