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Robert Welch's 1958 predictions about the U.S.-Video
http://picturepush.com/public/3598497 ^ | 6-9-10 | Jesse Ellis

Posted on 06/09/2010 11:13:23 PM PDT by 51773photo

Things that are going on today with the economy, and how the goverenmet is handling all of it, was specifically predicted back in 1958 by Robert Welch. Image Hosted by PicturePush - Photo Sharing


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; History; Politics
KEYWORDS: 1958; bobwelch; jbs; johnbirchsociety; robertwelch; welch

1 posted on 06/09/2010 11:13:23 PM PDT by 51773photo
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To: 51773photo

Pretty accurate predictions and great action plan - most tea partiers would identify with that.

Why has the JBS been so vilified?


2 posted on 06/09/2010 11:49:09 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: 51773photo

Great video.

Does anybody happen to know the composer of the music in this video?


3 posted on 06/09/2010 11:51:52 PM PDT by Boucheau
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To: aquila48

I have no idea. Growing up as a military brat, certain ideals were spoken of as the devils own. One of them was the John Burch(sp?) Society. No idea what they stand for, no idea of who they are. I just know if I ever mentioned their name, I would be put up in front of a firing squad.


4 posted on 06/10/2010 12:04:37 AM PDT by 51773photo
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To: 51773photo

In 1959 we could see where this country was headed and made the decision to never have kids that would have to live through it.

What we have now would have been 15 years ago +- if it hadn’t been for the fighting by conservatives to stop it.


5 posted on 06/10/2010 12:09:40 AM PDT by dalereed (in)
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To: 51773photo

“No idea what they stand for, no idea of who they are. I just know if I ever mentioned their name, I would be put up in front of a firing squad.”

Here’s an intro:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Birch_Society


6 posted on 06/10/2010 12:14:32 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: 51773photo

I can remember people laughing at him. The sheep do not like to be awakened, they would rather face the future with their eyes closed.


7 posted on 06/10/2010 12:45:49 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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To: 51773photo

I still have a copy (my grandfather’s) of the 1959 “Blue Book of the John Birch Society”. It is, 50+ years later, some very interesting reading. It’s like a window to the ‘50s.


8 posted on 06/10/2010 12:53:16 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: 51773photo
A lot of similarities to Ron Paul's philosophy.

The LMS certainly demonized Welch.

9 posted on 06/10/2010 2:22:01 AM PDT by Rum Tum Tugger
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To: aquila48

Because the media, academia and the political system has been taken over by progressives/socialists/communists/Marxists/Maoists-ALL “birds of a feather”.
from Amazon get the books “ None dare call it treason” and “None dare call it treason, 25 years later”


10 posted on 06/10/2010 7:14:19 AM PDT by captbarney
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To: aquila48
Why has the JBS been so vilified?

I have never found the answer to that question.

When I was younger, much younger, I had the impression that the John Birch Society supported communism. I don't know how that impression came about. As I reflect on that, I see that instilling false notions is possible. Once instilled they are nearly impossible to change.

A short time ago I came across a short video that contained a very concise description of various forms of government leading to an explanation of The American Form of Government. The video pointed out that America is not a Democracy but rather the Republic guaranteed by the Constitution. I had no knowledge of the source of the video; I was far more interested in the clear and concise message than who was the messenger.

I posted the link on Free Republic and another Freeper pointed out that the video was actually one of a series of videos created by the John Birch Society. This startled me a bit and caused me to visit John Birch Society web site. I found nothing Un-American or Anti-American. On the contrary, I found just the opposite.

I wonder what false impressions the socialist and Marxist elements in our society and government are instilling in young people today. The young are not going to listen to an older person who is obviously out of touch regardless of that person’s passion for the vision that was once America.

The reason I mentioned the fact that America is a Republic and not a Democracy is because of the Marxist element’s effort to persuade young people that America is a Democracy. It may appear a simple exercise in semantics but it goes far deeper.

Socialism can only prevail in a Democracy because in a Democracy the majority can elect to ignore the rule of law by ignoring the law. You can see this in real-time by observing the Congress, Executive, and Judicial branches of our government ignore the Constitution in order to achieve their agenda.

These words are in America’s Constitution.

Article 4. Section. 4. The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government

As an added note neither the word Democracy or any of its derivatives ever appear in America’s Constitution or in The Declaration of Independence or in the Constitution of any of the fifty states.

11 posted on 06/10/2010 7:30:29 AM PDT by MosesKnows (Love many, Trust few, and always paddle your own canoe)
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To: 51773photo

How is it that in a “1958” speech he is mentioning President Nixon, and didn’t we leave the gold standard in 1971?

A 1974 speech labeled as being from 1958 could sound like predictions, but that is misleading.


12 posted on 06/10/2010 7:59:09 AM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: ansel12

a 1974 speech, referring to his remarks of 1958


13 posted on 06/10/2010 8:42:41 AM PDT by 51773photo
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To: ansel12

Richard Nixon was Vice-President from 1952-1960.


14 posted on 07/31/2010 1:53:34 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: aquila48

The first I ever heard of the JBS was in the early 60’s when The Chad Mitchell Trio recorded a song ridiculing them. Liberals like Bobby Kennedy made jokes about them.

When I finally read some JBS literature, I found I agreed with them. Time has proven they were/are right.


15 posted on 07/31/2010 2:27:14 PM PDT by Zman516 (muslims, marxists, communists ---> satan's useful idiot corps)
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To: Brown Deer

Right, Nixon was not President in 1958.


16 posted on 07/31/2010 2:35:32 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: ansel12

There were parts of two different speeches in that video, one from 1958 and another from 1974.

In 1958, Robert Welch lists ten things as evidences:

“A part of that plan of course is to induce the gradual surrender of American sovereignty piece by piece and step by step to various international organizations of which the United Nations is the outstanding, but far from the only, example:

1. Greatly expanded government spending for every conceivable means of getting rid of ever larger sums of American money, as wastefully as possible.
2. Higher and then much higher taxes.
3. An increasingly unbalanced budget despite the higher taxes.
4. Wild inflation of our currency.
5. Government controls of prices, wages, and materials, supposedly to combat inflation.
6. Greatly increased socialistic controls over every operation of our economy and every activity of our daily lives. This is to be accompanied naturally and automatically by a correspondingly huge increase in the size of our bureaucracy and in both the cost and reach of our domestic government.
7. Far more centralization of power in Washington and the practical elimination of our state lines. There is a many faceted drive at work to have our state lines eventually mean no more within the nation than our county lines do now within the states.
8. They study advance of federal aide to and control over our educational system leading to complete federalization of our public education.
9. A constant hammering into the American consciousness of the horror of modern warfare. The beauties and the absolute necessity of peace. Peace always on communist terms of course.
10. The consequent willingness of the American people to allow the steps of appeasement by our government which amount to a piecemeal surrender of the rest of the free world and of the United States itself.”


17 posted on 07/31/2010 2:51:36 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer

That was straightened out almost two months ago, what is your point?


18 posted on 07/31/2010 2:54:11 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: ansel12

actually, I watched a different video, so am not sure if you saw the same thing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZU0c8DAIU4


19 posted on 07/31/2010 2:55:49 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer

I don’t care, why are you bugging me on this old dead thread?


20 posted on 07/31/2010 2:56:48 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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Sorry, but I didn’t see those ten items listed anywhere in the thread.


21 posted on 07/31/2010 2:58:26 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer

BUMP- John Birch Society...They were right!


22 posted on 06/08/2012 2:27:12 PM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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