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Feral Cops War On Dogs Part The Ad Nauseum
JohnJacobH RKBA Commentary ^ | 06/19/10 | JohnJacobH RKBA Commentary

Posted on 06/25/2010 4:47:12 PM PDT by Copernicus

Now in concert with the gentle approach of summer Police across the country renew their annual campaign against dogs and other pets.

Knowledgeable readers are familiar with the drill: when they came for the dogs I said nothing for I owned no dogs.

When they came for the cats I said nothing for I owned no cats.

When they came for me, there was no dog or cat owner left to speak on my behalf.

And then, of course, there is the matter of Marksmanship.

In Washington, DC it took seven or eight shots to kill a 13 year old 40 lb dog and in Missouri it took two shots about a minute apart to kill a restrained 60 lb dog at a distance of five feet.

But wait, there is MORE! A North Carolina STATE TROOPER trapped a KITTEN and THEN SHOT IT! Now he wants his job BACK after HE GOT FIRED!

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It was a five month old kitten. What kind of idiot wastes ammunition for such a brutal job?

Best regards to all,

1 posted on 06/25/2010 4:47:22 PM PDT by Copernicus
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To: Copernicus

“Police across the country renew their annual campaign against dogs and other pets”

Absolutely, they start building up to this campaign in March with meetings, and sharpshooting practice and all. As the weeks tick on, they begin salivating for that first pet-hunting day when they will surely bag their limit. /s

Pets get shot. Sometimes they have attacked the police. Sometimes it just appears they will do so. And sometimes you have an abberant cop who shoots kittens. But don’t paint police with that kind of broad brush. They aren’t gunning for pets. They own pets probably at the same level as the general population and some have put their lives at risk to save their pets, especially their police dogs.


2 posted on 06/25/2010 4:58:47 PM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things)
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To: Copernicus

I may be wrong but isn’t shooting a police dog considered murder?

Shouldn’t these Officers be given the death penalty if found guilty of shooting a family pet? Or is there some unwritten rule that our masters don’t have to obey the law they enforce?

Maybe it is time for us to write some new rules ourselves.


3 posted on 06/25/2010 5:00:04 PM PDT by LeGrande (Yes, I am an agent of Satan, but my duties are largely ceremonial.)
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To: LeGrande

Police dogs are Officers with four legs, and are protected by the same laws as their human counterparts. I think this is a training issue with regards to law enforcement. Cops enter homes and immediately neutralize anything moving towards them, including animals large and small. For any law enforcement official to shoot at let alone kill any dog which can be overcome with a swift kick is downright inexcusable. I recall the recent house crashing of cops looking for marijuana, based on a “tip”. The cops immediately killed a totally harmless dog just doing it’s job of barking at “strangers” entering its domain. It’s acts such as this which give the law a bad name. Turns out, there was no marijuana in the home. I support law enforcement 100%, but there’s no excuse for shooting a non-vicious breed, unlike Pitt Bulls, Rottweilers, Dobermans, etc. None whatsoever.


4 posted on 06/25/2010 5:17:03 PM PDT by historyrepeatz
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To: caseinpoint

What kind of man shoots a kitten? Not much of one.


5 posted on 06/25/2010 5:21:50 PM PDT by carton253 (Ask me about Throw Away the Scabbard - a Civil War alternate history.)
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To: carton253

It was no doubt a vicious pit-kitten.


6 posted on 06/25/2010 5:24:37 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: carton253

I totally agree but I don’t agree he is representative of cops in general. There are sadists everywhere, in all careers. Cops are not pet haters any more than any other group is.


7 posted on 06/25/2010 5:30:45 PM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things)
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To: Joe 6-pack

No doubt... all fierce and scary like. The poor cop shot the kitten in self-defense. What a sissified nancy boy!


8 posted on 06/25/2010 5:31:35 PM PDT by carton253 (Ask me about Throw Away the Scabbard - a Civil War alternate history.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

No doubt... all fierce and scary like. The poor cop shot the kitten in self-defense. What a sissified nancy boy!


9 posted on 06/25/2010 5:31:35 PM PDT by carton253 (Ask me about Throw Away the Scabbard - a Civil War alternate history.)
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To: LeGrande

Shouldn’t these Officers be given the death penalty if found guilty of shooting a family pet?
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I’m sure Cass Sunstein thinks so.


10 posted on 06/25/2010 5:34:07 PM PDT by Irenic
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To: carton253

You shouldn’t be critical of the cop. You have no idea what it’s like to bust into somebody’s house and be stared down by a fuzzy kitten who was probably even purring at him. I’ll bet it wasn’t even de-clawed. No sir. I don’t see how you can bad mouth the cop ‘til you’ve walked a mile in his jack-boots.


11 posted on 06/25/2010 5:34:38 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: caseinpoint
I would never think that kitten killer was representative of cops anywhere. Most of the time when I think police, I think of them running into the Twin Towers on 9/11.

But there is no justifying the killing of a kitten. And a man who do that deserves to be mocked and scorned.

12 posted on 06/25/2010 5:34:49 PM PDT by carton253 (Ask me about Throw Away the Scabbard - a Civil War alternate history.)
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To: caseinpoint
I would never think that kitten killer was representative of cops anywhere. Most of the time when I think police, I think of them running into the Twin Towers on 9/11.

But there is no justifying the killing of a kitten. And a man who do that deserves to be mocked and scorned.

13 posted on 06/25/2010 5:34:49 PM PDT by carton253 (Ask me about Throw Away the Scabbard - a Civil War alternate history.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Oh, I didn’t know that the fierce kitten hadn’t been declawed. That changes everything.


14 posted on 06/25/2010 5:37:23 PM PDT by carton253 (Ask me about Throw Away the Scabbard - a Civil War alternate history.)
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To: carton253

Sorry for all the double posts. I don’t know what’s happening.


15 posted on 06/25/2010 5:38:46 PM PDT by carton253 (Ask me about Throw Away the Scabbard - a Civil War alternate history.)
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To: carton253

I don’t have a problem with condemning someone who would kill a kitten. But the original post started with an assertion that police were beginning their “annual campaign against pets”. That’s unfair to cops everywhere. We should no more condemn all cops for this degenerate who killed the kitten that we should condemn any other group for the aberrants in their midst.


16 posted on 06/25/2010 5:39:11 PM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things)
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To: caseinpoint
But don’t paint police with that kind of broad brush. They aren’t gunning for pets.

Respectfully disagree. There are far too many incidents across the country.

Explain how any Police Force "clearing" a house or a building will not at some point come across a dog who will be naturally hostile to intruders.

The dog will be shot. It is in the nature of department policy and "officer safety" that threats encountered in "dynamic entry warrant service" will be handled expeditiously.

Cops have killed their own K-9s under the influence of this mentality.

It is on the Internet, it must be true.

Best regards,

17 posted on 06/25/2010 5:41:15 PM PDT by Copernicus (California Grandmother view on Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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To: carton253
"Oh, I didn’t know that the fierce kitten hadn’t been declawed. That changes everything."

You know in the heat of battle against "civilians" you can't expect an law enforcement operator to take the time to check a kitten's paws...somebody might flush a reefer down the commode while you're checking! No sir...if we want to raid houses effectively, we need to shoot cats first and ask questions later.

The kitten was probably a catnip abuser anyways so it deserved to be shot.

18 posted on 06/25/2010 5:45:40 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: historyrepeatz

My problem with the officers isn’t the shooting of the dogs per se.

The common thread is that the officers were executing a legal warrant that was based on erroneous information, and as a result people were falsely imprisoned, kidnapped, traumatized and sometimes shot and killed. Pets were killed and property was damaged and destroyed.

At the very least, the Judge who issued the warrant should be held responsible for his actions. If the Judge and Officers faced criminal sanctions, I guarantee that we wouldn’t hear another one of these stories.


19 posted on 06/25/2010 5:51:04 PM PDT by LeGrande (Yes, I am an agent of Satan, but my duties are largely ceremonial.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Catnip turns the Bootsman (my cat) into one mean drunk. So, if the little kitten was high on the stuff... well, someone pin a medal on that man! He survived one scary situation.


20 posted on 06/25/2010 5:51:36 PM PDT by carton253 (Ask me about Throw Away the Scabbard - a Civil War alternate history.)
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To: carton253
I somehow knew this guy would have a shaved head...

Here's a pic of the beast in question...

...you can see the feral cruelty in its eyes. It even looks like it's killed before. Thank goodness we have fine officers like Trooper Houston to protect us.

21 posted on 06/25/2010 5:57:06 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Trooper Houston’s mother must be so proud of him.


22 posted on 06/25/2010 6:00:09 PM PDT by carton253 (Ask me about Throw Away the Scabbard - a Civil War alternate history.)
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To: carton253
"Trooper Houston’s mother must be so proud of him."

If she isn't, somebody should taze her.

23 posted on 06/25/2010 6:03:55 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: caseinpoint

I will happily use the broad brush. The tales are almost daily. It is a good thing to have a dog in your yard in case the police come to your door to ask a question or raid the wrong address. That gives the officers something to shoot to satisfy their apparent union contract perks so they don’t have to shoot your wife or child. We get cop-shoots-pet pretty often in my own small town. When those dogs are chained up it makes the situation pretty clear.


24 posted on 06/25/2010 6:04:11 PM PDT by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

You’re very funny. You made my night.


25 posted on 06/25/2010 6:18:26 PM PDT by carton253 (Ask me about Throw Away the Scabbard - a Civil War alternate history.)
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26 posted on 06/25/2010 6:22:28 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: arthurus

In clear situations, I agree. However the tales are nearly daily because we have worldwide access to news stories which highlight such incidents. It is truly sad that dogs are being trained to guard the bad guys and I surely know that abuses happen, but I don’t think it characterizes cops as a group and I will happily defend them against that broad brush. (And, no, I have no personal connection with any cop to color my judgment.) Cops try to do the best job they can under incredible pressure. Mistakes will be made. There are undoubtedly some sadists but it is not fair to tar the entire law enforcement class based on these incidents.


27 posted on 06/25/2010 6:39:30 PM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things)
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To: LeGrande
Or is there some unwritten rule that our masters don’t have to obey the law they enforce?

Yes; I spell it out here.

28 posted on 06/25/2010 6:47:58 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: historyrepeatz
Police dogs are Officers with four legs, and are protected by the same laws as their human counterparts.

I would debate the legitimacy of such a stance.

I think this is a training issue with regards to law enforcement. Cops enter homes and immediately neutralize anything moving towards them, including animals large and small.

It's still no excuse:
RULE #4 -- ALWAYS BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND ITS SURROUNDINGS.

Just wait until the SWAT teams start shooting toddlers who "aggressively come running" at them.
I want to see the defense put forth for them then.

29 posted on 06/25/2010 6:53:46 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: carton253

>But there is no justifying the killing of a kitten. And a man who do that deserves to be mocked and scorned.

Sometimes there is. I’ve had to put down a kitten who was dying because of a spider-bite; and another that had its spine broken.


30 posted on 06/25/2010 6:57:17 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: LeGrande

That’s a great suggestion. If there were some way to make the judge and police answerable for the damage done under false warrants, innocents, including pet dogs, could be much safer.


31 posted on 06/25/2010 6:57:36 PM PDT by Marylander
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To: OneWingedShark

I don’t even know what to say. On this thread, we are talking about a cop shooting a 5 month old kitten. That’s a far cry from humanely putting down an animal that is sick or dying. Hopefully, you realize that.


32 posted on 06/25/2010 7:02:28 PM PDT by carton253 (Ask me about Throw Away the Scabbard - a Civil War alternate history.)
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To: carton253

>I don’t even know what to say. On this thread, we are talking about a cop shooting a 5 month old kitten. That’s a far cry from humanely putting down an animal that is sick or dying. Hopefully, you realize that.

Yes, I know. The logic/programmer part of me is a little sensitized to broad-brush statements right now.
I got into an argument about people at border-crossing stations, and well, I’m pissed off that people can hold the idea “they’re foreigners and have essentially NO rights” that kept getting shoved in my face... especially when things like the Fourth Amendment are binding on the State against ANYONE foreign or not.


33 posted on 06/25/2010 7:09:11 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

That was a nicely written article Shark : )


34 posted on 06/25/2010 7:13:32 PM PDT by LeGrande (Yes, I am an agent of Satan, but my duties are largely ceremonial.)
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To: OneWingedShark

I understand your frustration, but I’m not broad brushing. I’m talking about one sorry cop and his senseless act. Just like this morning when a guy is weaving in and out of traffic, speeding, and honking his horn. Everyone in front of him is slowing down. Why, there is a family of geese on the road. But this jackass doesn’t stop. No, he just runs them over. How self-centered and cruel and totally lacking in any kind of humanity must you be to do something like that. Not broad brushing...pointing my finger at the cop in this story and the driver of the car this morning...both of them are sorry excuses for human beings and they deserve nothing but contempt and scorn. Rant off. (Thank’s for listening)


35 posted on 06/25/2010 7:21:53 PM PDT by carton253 (Ask me about Throw Away the Scabbard - a Civil War alternate history.)
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To: carton253

36 posted on 06/25/2010 7:22:24 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Copernicus
He probably saw this.

Or this.

Oh, the horror.

No cheers, unfortunately.

37 posted on 06/25/2010 7:24:48 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: LeGrande

>That was a nicely written article Shark : )

Thank you!


38 posted on 06/25/2010 7:30:25 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: carton253

Not a problem.


39 posted on 06/25/2010 7:32:26 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Copernicus
Police agencies are armed agencies of the State. In history, when have armed agents of the State been trustworthy? NEVER!!!!

It is nice that the State has tried to teach children that the armed agents are our ‘friend’, and that they are in the right no matter what they do. It is definitely in evidence on all of these threads. FReepers who either are ‘LEOs’ or those who believe that what Chuck Schumer manages to pass (that wouldn’t withstand scrutiny of the Founders) but Carter or Clinton (or even the Bush appointed traitors!) appointed judges ala Kagan decide that the interest of the ‘State’ must trump the idea that Founding documents must be obeyed, have taken sides.

The police aren’t our friends. They will follow the order to kill those who aren’t willing to support the .gov. They would justify running over the protester in Tiananmen Square on the basis that he constituted a ‘threat’. No. Police aren’t our friends. They believe that authority must be respected, even if authority is wrong. They point to the ‘legal’ system as protection from abusive police practices, even if the ‘police’ are agents of that very same system!

Police are the Redcoats of old. And they must be eliminated from US society. Criminals can be dealt with in a manner that discourages others that think of committing crimes. The legal system that police represent lets those criminals go, in order to gain more power. Think about it.

40 posted on 06/25/2010 8:19:49 PM PDT by ex 98C MI Dude (Alea Iacta Est)
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To: OneWingedShark

There were people on FR defending a cop who shot off the head of a sleeping child during a warrant search of a house recently.


41 posted on 06/25/2010 8:23:22 PM PDT by packrat35 (Planned Parenthood - Keeping healthcare costs down, one fetus at a time)
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To: packrat35

>There were people on FR defending a cop who shot off the head of a sleeping child during a warrant search of a house recently.

Disgusting.
The cop, and those defending him.


42 posted on 06/25/2010 8:26:36 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

well said.


43 posted on 06/25/2010 8:29:23 PM PDT by murphE ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." - GK Chesterton)
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To: carton253
Probably reminds him of his ex-wife.

Cheers!

44 posted on 06/25/2010 8:31:52 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: ex 98C MI Dude
Vigilantes
Doing the jobs the police won't.

45 posted on 06/25/2010 8:34:11 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Of course toddlers are off limits as they should be. Regarding dogs, perhaps it’s more a matter of “if a dog comes at you” rather than “if this SIZE OR BREED of dog comes at you”. There are many breeds of dogs that simply don’t pose a threat no matter how protective they become.


46 posted on 06/25/2010 11:09:45 PM PDT by historyrepeatz
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To: caseinpoint
World wide coverage of near daily events in the US. When there are several of thoseannually in my mini metropolis in all of the little townships, well there is a problem and it seems to be replicated all around. Police never shot dogs hereabouts 30-40 years ago and dogs were not all leashed and penned up in those days. Now they do it as a matter of course and dog owners pretty much expect that it will happen should the police have any sort of reason to come to the door.
47 posted on 06/26/2010 5:01:48 AM PDT by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: caseinpoint

And some of those videos show there was no mistake and no threat. Shooting the chained dog that is just standing there is not a mistake.


48 posted on 06/26/2010 5:05:04 AM PDT by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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