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What to do if you vehicle goes in the water? (vanity)

Posted on 06/28/2010 9:20:54 AM PDT by GregB

With todays cars and not many manual window cranks what do we do if we go in the water?


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KEYWORDS: rollover; trapped; underwater
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There are a lot of people who know more about this then me There was adiscussion on another thread about a FReeper buying a SUV I thought was easy to rollover and it went from there to this question and I want to tell my family and friends what to do so jump right in!!!
1 posted on 06/28/2010 9:20:56 AM PDT by GregB
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To: GregB

Always drive w/ your windows down.


2 posted on 06/28/2010 9:22:29 AM PDT by library user
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To: GregB

Shoot the window out with your sidearm.


3 posted on 06/28/2010 9:23:40 AM PDT by TSgt (We will always be prepared, so we may always be free. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: library user

What to do? You get wet - duh.


4 posted on 06/28/2010 9:24:36 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: TSgt

+1


5 posted on 06/28/2010 9:24:46 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Are You Ready?)
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To: GregB

Windows are DC power and will work when you hit the water — lower them IMMEDIATELY.

They worked every possible scenario of a car going under and that was the safest, short of having one of those window busters (which I keep in all my cars).


6 posted on 06/28/2010 9:25:23 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (The frog who accepts a ride from a scorpion should expect a sting and the phrase "it is my nature.")
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To: GregB

Pull a beeber out of the glove compartment and stune the closest window.


7 posted on 06/28/2010 9:25:40 AM PDT by tumblindice ("We are guardians of the taxpayers' money." Rep. Chris Carney, D-Pa, (presumably w/ a straight face)
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To: GregB
Get the LifeHammer. http://www.lifehammer.com/
8 posted on 06/28/2010 9:25:44 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: GregB

*bump for later*


9 posted on 06/28/2010 9:25:46 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: GregB
Leave your paramour there and call your lawyer.

Seriously - good question. I guess the electronics would be fried before the point you could open the door.

10 posted on 06/28/2010 9:26:08 AM PDT by Senator Pardek
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To: GregB

Buy a window punch and put it in the glovebox. Or, don’t drive into the water.


11 posted on 06/28/2010 9:26:14 AM PDT by goseminoles
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To: GregB

“They” were Mythbusters.


12 posted on 06/28/2010 9:26:22 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (The frog who accepts a ride from a scorpion should expect a sting and the phrase "it is my nature.")
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To: GregB

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fy4Jbt_c4s


13 posted on 06/28/2010 9:27:11 AM PDT by Howie
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To: TSgt

we have a winna....


14 posted on 06/28/2010 9:27:21 AM PDT by tatsinfla
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To: Senator Pardek

>>I guess the electronics would be fried before the point you could open the door.<<

DC works underwater.


15 posted on 06/28/2010 9:27:31 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (The frog who accepts a ride from a scorpion should expect a sting and the phrase "it is my nature.")
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To: freedumb2003
"Windows are DC power and will work when you hit the water — lower them IMMEDIATELY."

Perfect, simple sense.

16 posted on 06/28/2010 9:27:46 AM PDT by Senator Pardek
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To: GregB

The electric motor in your window will probably keep working while submerged, electronics aren’t as sensitive to water as Hollywood makes out. The big thing in water is fast or patient, either get your door/ window open IMMEDIATELY (before the pressure builds) or wait until the cabin is almost completely filled with water (ie after the pressure is gone). The big thing is don’t panic. If you try to open your door and it won’t budge don’t keep fighting it, the pressure has built up and all you’ll do is tire yourself out, get to where the air is (which ever part of your vehicle is sinking the slowest), take full deep breaths until the air pocket is almost gone, then one more biggie to hold, by that point pressure should be equalized and your doors should be easy to open.


17 posted on 06/28/2010 9:27:46 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: GregB

Electric windows work in fresh water.


18 posted on 06/28/2010 9:28:32 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Now can we forget about that old rum-runner Joe Kennedy and his progeny of philandering drunks?)
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To: GregB
Some ideas: Via Youtube

Escape A Car Under Water

Part1

Part2

19 posted on 06/28/2010 9:30:28 AM PDT by Palter (Kilroy was here.)
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To: GregB

Kick out the windshield (before water is pressing on it ) or after the cabin’s filled with water... Carry a ping hammer - knock out a window. Buy a low end model Ford - they still have roll windows... Go to your local Honda dealer and complain about “no roll windows”... Get a car with a manual sun roof that you can climb out of... It’s an issue in Florida - choose to live someplace with less water...


20 posted on 06/28/2010 9:30:43 AM PDT by GOPJ (More people are killed every year by falling vending machines than by holders of a concealed-weapon)
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To: GregB

Buy an underwater car and you won’t need to worry about it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR2sb1wchXQ


21 posted on 06/28/2010 9:31:08 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: GregB

Mythbusters tested this one. You can find it on youtube.

Open your car door immediately and jump out. Anything else is too slow. You can’t open the door when it is submerged. You can’t roll down the windows when the car is submerged, not due to having electric windows but due to the pressure applied to the window by the weight of water.

If you immediately open the car door, you will have time to unbuckle your seat belt and swim out. If you have kids in the back seat, then you want to try to open the back door as soon as you are out and then free them from their belts.

The key is, the odds of driving into water are way less than being bitten by a shark after being hit by lightning. this is a really rare thing.


22 posted on 06/28/2010 9:31:22 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (California Bankruptcy in 4... 3... 2...)
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To: freedumb2003

IIRC Adam Savage was able to open the window as long as the water was less than about half way up the window. The electric power still operated underwater, but the differential pressure was too strong for it to overcome once the water covered the window. Open it quick and get out ASAP was the overall conclusion.


23 posted on 06/28/2010 9:31:33 AM PDT by chimera
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To: Palter

Thanks for the answer and to all the posters Thanks


24 posted on 06/28/2010 9:32:16 AM PDT by GregB (Sarah Palin The Next President Of The United States!!!!)
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To: GregB

How to Escape Car That’s Underwater:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/09/24/earlyshow/main5335215.shtml


25 posted on 06/28/2010 9:32:25 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: GregB

Get a new president who isn’t an idiot, stop spending money we don’t have, limit the government to Constitutional...

Oh, I’m sorry. I thought you were asking what to do if your country’s finances are under water. If it’s a car, and the windows won’t open, break the window. If no device is available, use your foot or shoulder. Water coming in will equalize the pressure, allowing you to open the door and get out of there.

There are other steps you need to take: http://www.wikihow.com/Escape-from-a-Sinking-Car


26 posted on 06/28/2010 9:32:47 AM PDT by Our man in washington
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To: GregB

Open the glovebox and read the owner’s manual.


27 posted on 06/28/2010 9:33:08 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: goseminoles

You don’t always have a choice about water. Some unfortunate woman was driving across one of Jacksonville’s many bridges last week and a total sodden drunk (also a woman) “tapped” her back bumper, sending her car out of control and right over the edge of the bridge into the St John’s. She died, but naturally the drunk is fine.


28 posted on 06/28/2010 9:33:41 AM PDT by livius
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To: discostu

Every year about a hundred people in Florida are killed when they can’t get out of their submerged cars.


29 posted on 06/28/2010 9:33:53 AM PDT by GOPJ (More people are killed every year by falling vending machines than by holders of a concealed-weapon)
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To: GregB
Ted Kennedy Pictures, Images and Photos

"My advice would be to drink heavily."

30 posted on 06/28/2010 9:34:13 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Snickering Hound

Ted "Water Dog" Kennedy...

Kennedy 'joked about Chappaquiddick'
Biographer reveals deadly incident was a 'favorite topic of humor'

August 28, 2009

"Edward Klein, speaking to WAMU guest host Katty Kay, said one of Kennedy's 'favorite topics of humor was, indeed, Chappaquiddick.'

"He would ask people, 'Have you heard any new jokes about Chappaquiddick?' said Klein, a former Newsweek foreign editor and former editor in chief of the New York Times Magazine."

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=108256
_____________________________________________________

YouTube video: Kennedy liked to joke about Chappaquiddick?

"This isn't an accusation from Ted Kennedy's political opponents, but a nostalgic remembrance by one of his friends. Ed Klein, former Newsweek editor, tells the Diane Rehm Show:

"I don't know if you know this or not, but one of his favorite topics of humor was indeed Chappaquiddick itself. And he would ask people, have you heard any new jokes about Chappaquiddick? That is just the most amazing thing. It's not that he didn't feel remorse about the death of Mary Jo Kopechne, but that he still always saw the other side of everything and the ridiculous side of things, too."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaiTipTtbak

31 posted on 06/28/2010 9:35:22 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: freedumb2003
“They” were Mythbusters.

And they made a couple of bad assumptions in that episode. The reasoning behind placing the sandbag on the glass window to simulate water pressure greater on the outside than the inside had a big flaw in it. The coefficient of static friction between wet burlap on glass is much higher than water on glass. Moreover the sand bag was much smaller than the surface area of the window, thereby placing the same force on a smaller area creating an even higher level of static friction.

The fact is that in fresh water, electric car windows in undamaged doors DO open.

32 posted on 06/28/2010 9:35:34 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Now can we forget about that old rum-runner Joe Kennedy and his progeny of philandering drunks?)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
You can’t roll down the windows when the car is submerged, not due to having electric windows but due to the pressure applied to the window by the weight of water.

I don't understand: What "pressure differential" must be overcome in order to roll down your car windows? I can understand it being more difficult to swing open your car doors, but what's the problem in rolling down your windows?

Regards,

33 posted on 06/28/2010 9:36:14 AM PDT by alexander_busek
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To: GOPJ

What’s their average age?


34 posted on 06/28/2010 9:37:25 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: All

Flood negatives, rig dive planes for 20 degree down bubble, all ahead 2/3rds?

Hope that the car does not flip over, wait till it hits bottom, advise your passengers not to panic, what you intend to do, and knock out a window. A side window maybe harder to navigate out of but a front or back window is not going to shatter apart and may be held in place by water pressure.


35 posted on 06/28/2010 9:38:37 AM PDT by Molon Labbie
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To: GregB
Wait until the car fills with water, then drive across the bottom of the pond/lake/river as fast as you can right into the nearest big rock.

The airbags will deploy, and because the car is now filled with water it will blow all the windows out.

36 posted on 06/28/2010 9:39:12 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Our man in washington

Most cars have adjustable headrests. Take it all the way out of the seat, grab the padding, and bang the steel posts against the window. The window should break only after a few knocks.


37 posted on 06/28/2010 9:40:34 AM PDT by getarope (One Big Ass Mistake, America!)
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To: GregB

>> so jump right in!!! <<

That works.


38 posted on 06/28/2010 9:40:34 AM PDT by dangus
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To: GregB
I carry a "click" center punch in the center console. It is a spring loaded punch for machinists that will break a car window very well.

Simply press it against the window until it "clicks" and releases it's spring energy at one tiny point.

/johnny

39 posted on 06/28/2010 9:40:49 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: UCANSEE2

“owner’s manual”

Your Chrysler Product
p. 66, In The Water
)))
B. `So You’re Upside Down’
If your vehicle is top-down and sinking fast, an attempt to open the window will actually close the window. If you have trouble understanding these directions, hold this manual upside down.


40 posted on 06/28/2010 9:41:43 AM PDT by tumblindice ("We are guardians of the taxpayers' money." Rep. Chris Carney, D-Pa, (presumably w/ a straight face)
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To: GregB

If the forces of evil continue to prevail in November that I would set the best bet is to just go ahead and drown.


41 posted on 06/28/2010 9:43:25 AM PDT by The Duke
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To: alexander_busek

I’m guessing the water presses hard enough agaisnt the window to cause it to bind against its weather stripping.


42 posted on 06/28/2010 9:44:10 AM PDT by Pessimist
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To: ElkGroveDan
The coefficient of static friction between wet burlap on glass is much higher than water on glass.

Being a liquid, liquid water exhibits no "coefficient of static friction."

And the "skin friction" between a glass window and water would be very small, indeed.

Regards,

43 posted on 06/28/2010 9:44:37 AM PDT by alexander_busek
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Great thing about the LifeHammer is it also has a seat belt cutter on it.


44 posted on 06/28/2010 9:45:28 AM PDT by divine_moment_of_facts (Give me Liberty.. or I'll get up and get it for myself!)
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To: GregB
Automatic center punch.

Just push the pointed end on the window surface and it will do the rest after overcoming the spring detent.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/General-Tools-Steel-Automatic-Center-Punch-79/14299493?wmlspartner=GPA&sourceid=44444444440251542959

45 posted on 06/28/2010 9:45:28 AM PDT by mazda77 (Rubio for US Senate - West FL22nd - JD Hayworth - US Senate)
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To: GOPJ

AAA says it’s about 300 a year annually. Most of the time when dealing with water the killer is panic, the car is too deep into the water when the person tries to open it so they can’t, then they freak out and use all their energy fighting the pressure. By the time the pressure is almost equalized (ie there’s very little air left in the cabin) they’re too amped up on adrenaline to hold their breath properly, they probably drown less than 30 seconds before the door could be opened.

A big rule to survival in any situation is when in doubt stay calm. The human species has gotten where it is because we have this brain that’s good at solving puzzles, the second you panic you turn off most of your brain and lose your biggest advantage.


46 posted on 06/28/2010 9:47:32 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: GregB

Admit it. You’re FReeping from the bottom of a lake, aren’t you?


47 posted on 06/28/2010 9:47:35 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: tacticalogic

That’s what I don’t get about Chappaquiddick. The car was equipped with an airbag.


48 posted on 06/28/2010 9:48:32 AM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus
That’s what I don’t get about Chappaquiddick. The car was equipped with an airbag.

It was already inflated when the car went in the water.

49 posted on 06/28/2010 9:50:10 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: GregB

When tested on myth busters, the electric windows continued to function long enough to lower the window in the water.

That failing, I carry a large stainless steel handled folding knife in my pocket. Sharp enough to cut straps, stout enough to bust out a window.


50 posted on 06/28/2010 9:54:29 AM PDT by dangerdoc
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