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Andrew Sullivan: Why Does Trig Matter? [Governor Sarah Palin driving them insane!]
The Atlantic ^ | June 28, 2010 | Andrew Sullivan

Posted on 06/28/2010 6:16:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Jonathan Bernstein asks:

Sullivan believes that Palin's birth story for her youngest son is implausible. I think he has a good case for that, for what it's worth. As I've read over the last two years, I've seen three possible explanations. The first is the wild one, that the baby isn't really hers; she's covering for someone else's inconvenient pregnancy and has adopted that child. The second is that she was an irresponsible mother, and took terrible risks given the dangerous nature of the pregnancy. The third is that she made the whole thing up, or most of it: she invented a heroic birth story, and then wound up being stuck with it when she suddenly had a massively larger audience.

So. Let's say one of these is true. Why should I care?

I'm tempted to say that Sullivan owes it to us to explain what he thinks is at stake in the story of Palin and Trig, but I think that's not quite right. I'll leave it at this: as a regular reader, I would like to know what he thinks is at stake here. And I might even believe that he owes it to Palin and her family to explain why the stakes are high enough to outweigh their privacy. At least for me, it has to be more than just her habit of straying from the truth; we have more than enough examples of that.

These are excellent questions in an excellent summary of the options. Let me start with the obvious. If any of the three scenarios Jonathan has pointed out is true, then Sarah Palin has no business running for president and should never have been picked for vice-president.

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Politics; Society; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: 2012; aidsdementia; andrewnutcase; andypanda; getpalin; homosexualagenda; jourbalism; milkyloads; palin; pds; sarahpalin; sickhomo; waronsarah
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Did you catch that? The Washington Post was shilling for McCain/Palin according to Andy! Hahahaha! Next he'll tell us that Newsweek and Huffington are allied with the John Birch Society!
1 posted on 06/28/2010 6:16:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Since Joe the Plumber was investigated more by the MSM in 24 hours than Baraq was in 24 months, you can bet your arse that they spent thousands of hours and millions of dollars on this one - and came up empty.


2 posted on 06/28/2010 6:22:00 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That guy is just too stupid to realize that Sarah Palin gave birth to Trig. He’s the definition of a moron. His obsession about Trig is off the wall. So according to him Trig is not her kid, so I guess Rick Perry is in on the act too, because he was there when she went into labor and has repeated the story many times, so I guess he is in on the big lie too. I think Sullivan is just upset that Sarah has a gorgeous man in her life and he can’t have him


3 posted on 06/28/2010 6:23:17 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sullivan is angry that he long ago blew his cover as a leftist, pretending to be conservative.

Because the absolute trophy for these types is Sarah Palin.

Make no mistake, leading up to the 2012 election, there will be so called “conservatives” coming out of the woodwork against Palin. Pundits, talk show hosts and bloggers.

Do not listen to them. Judge Palin based on Palin.


4 posted on 06/28/2010 6:23:32 PM PDT by reasonisfaith ("Ye shall know them by their fruits." (Matthew 7:16))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sarah Palin appears to be living in these peoples heads rent free 24/7 despite being an irrelevant-quitting-ethic bending-airheaded-bad/fake mother.

The way she drives libs straightjacket-crazy is the most interesting politial spectacle I have ever seen. I have to be honest in that I have no idea what to make of it or where her star will eventually fall but regardless, I absolutely love the woman and consider her the last great hope remaining on the political horizon.

Some of the Gents can talk the talk but lack the moxy and savvy that Palin possesses. Too much respect for Sarah to say that she has Ba!!s but the so-called leaders of the GOP sure do lack them.


5 posted on 06/28/2010 6:25:55 PM PDT by JerseyDvl (Sometimes the road less traveled.... is less traveled for a reason.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Have you ever noticed that Adrew Sullivan has this unnaturural prurient interest in all things Palin? I mean, it’s like a sickness, a psychosis. It’s like he’s unable to focus on anything else. Weird.


6 posted on 06/28/2010 6:26:03 PM PDT by Obadiah (I can see November from my house!)
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To: nascarnation

Which is why it is legitimate to regard the mainstream media as an enemy of the state.


7 posted on 06/28/2010 6:26:09 PM PDT by skookum55 (A natural-born US citizen since 1955.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
Andrew Sullivan is soooooooo boring, sooooooo insipid, soooooo yesterday, sooooo trite.
8 posted on 06/28/2010 6:26:50 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bovine fecal matter.


9 posted on 06/28/2010 6:27:26 PM PDT by Bullish (Been to all 57 States.... Or is it 58?)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Sullivan is so typical of the most obnoxious sort of homosexual ~ he has no idea how to keep is cr*p to himself at appropriate moments.


10 posted on 06/28/2010 6:29:03 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
There is a fourth possibility: Sarah Palin eats babies, but after increasing scrutiny from the press after she was mentioned as a longshot pick to be McCain's running mate, she "adopted" the one she was fattening-up and claimed it to be Trig's. This would explain the theory that the baby is Trig's . . . people only have half of the story.
11 posted on 06/28/2010 6:29:03 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Like mark morford, sullivan proves once again that mental illness and homosexuality go hand in hand skipping down the block.


12 posted on 06/28/2010 6:29:54 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck.)
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To: Obadiah
The end of the article:

"Not knowing which is true for real - and allowing this person to continue to dominate one half of the political divide - is something I think is intolerable. In the end, this story is not about Palin. It's about the collapse of the press and the corrupt cynicism of a political system that foisted this farce upon us without performing any minimal due diligence.

And only Joe McGinniss seems to give a damn."

Notice anything there about doing due diligence on Mr. Obama? The've done nothing but investigate and spy on Governor Palin since September 2008.

13 posted on 06/28/2010 6:31:46 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Don't care if he was born in a manger on July 4th! A "Natural Born" citizen requires two US parents!)
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To: JerseyDvl

She very well may be the last star in the Conservative firmament. While it seems obvious that Americans won’t approve of the Democrats this fall, a standard bearer to run against Obama is still needed. Who will it be? Gingrich, Romney, Huckabee - McCain (shudder)?

It seems like only Sarah has the star power to seize the imagination.


14 posted on 06/28/2010 6:32:12 PM PDT by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sarah makes me feel sorry for everybody. She makes me feel sorry for all the women because they’re not like her, and sorry for the men because all the women aren’t like her.


15 posted on 06/28/2010 6:33:23 PM PDT by NurdlyPeon (Sarah Palin: Americas last, best hope for survival.)
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To: Bullish
Do we know for sure that every other president's children were conceived legitimately? Do we care?

The fixation that so many people have with Palin and Trig is bizarre, to say the least.

She carried Trig around with her for 2 reasons: first, she was nursing him at the time, and second, she was making the statement that Trig was a wanted child, thereby pointing out that all parents of a "special needs child" were doing the right thing by bringing that child to term and caring for it.

In this day of quickie abortions for no reason at all other than wanton, promiscuous sex, it is refreshing to see anyone in the public eye do the right thing.

16 posted on 06/28/2010 6:35:24 PM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "Gun Free Zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: 1rudeboy

If Andy reads FR you just gave him tomorrow’s article!


17 posted on 06/28/2010 6:35:38 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Don't care if he was born in a manger on July 4th! A "Natural Born" citizen requires two US parents!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Notice anything there about doing due diligence on Mr. Obama

I'm still astounded how a guy like Baraq can have a totally blank slate and wind up as POTUS. And the few records that we do know exist like the bc and school stuff are in a "lock box".

18 posted on 06/28/2010 6:35:38 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I seem to remember about a week after the election the WP apologized for shamelessly shilling for Obama.

I was furious about it. AFTER the election they apologize for putting ZERO into power. I blame creeps like them for destroying this country and betraying our founders.


19 posted on 06/28/2010 6:35:38 PM PDT by I still care (I believe in the universality of freedom -George Bush, asked if he regrets going to war.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This crap and the people that push it are insane.

I thought the left thought it was unfair to bring the kids into it? Keep it up lefties and we will start to question if Obama’s kids are actually Larry Sinclairs.

Obozo couldn’t be gay and fathered those kids.


20 posted on 06/28/2010 6:36:59 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Obadiah

a homo punk is worried about the Palin kids’ bedtime?

I can’t even bear to read this sh*t


21 posted on 06/28/2010 6:38:36 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trig isn’t Sarah’s Baby? Next Sullivan will tell us that Laura and George are getting divorced because he saw it on a magazine at the grocery check out.


22 posted on 06/28/2010 6:38:55 PM PDT by wastedpotential (McCain always said I was an agent of intolerance - but in 2008 those like me tolerated him most)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Bernstein should apply his logic equally to the contrived, cauterized history of Barry sotoro.

Sullivan is simply a muck raker who desires to do little more than harass Palin, while trying to discover the magic bullet that will , he thinks, destroy her.

The Dems are desperate to destroy her.She cannot be beat.

23 posted on 06/28/2010 6:39:22 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama .......yes.......is fascist... ...He meets every diagnostic of history)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What is wrong with these people? Sarah is a bad Mother because she chose not to abort her special needs child? He is her child let it go.


24 posted on 06/28/2010 6:40:26 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: basil
....it is refreshing to see anyone in the public eye do the right thing.

And it makes the libs eyeballs explode. Good for Sarah.

25 posted on 06/28/2010 6:42:10 PM PDT by Bullish (Been to all 57 States.... Or is it 58?)
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To: muawiyah

He’s jealous..he looks at Todd and thinks to himself “How come I can’t get a guy like that” its typical jealousy..jealous of what he can’t have so he takes it out on Sarah. He’s a jerk and a weirdo..I’d keep small boys away from him just to be on the safe side


26 posted on 06/28/2010 6:42:39 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“...I’ve seen three possible explanations. The first is the wild one, that the baby isn’t really hers; she’s covering for someone else’s inconvenient pregnancy and has adopted that child. The second is that she was an irresponsible mother, and took terrible risks given the dangerous nature of the pregnancy. The third is that she made the whole thing up, or most of it: she invented a heroic birth story, and then wound up being stuck with it when she suddenly had a massively larger audience.

“So. Let’s say one of these is true.”

I see two possible interpretations of this passage. The first is a ham-handed construction of a false dilemma by a manipulative goon. The second is the puerile rambling of a mental deficient.

So. Let’s say one of these is true.


27 posted on 06/28/2010 6:43:50 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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To: worst-case scenario
It seems like only Sarah has the star power to seize the imagination.

I have a hard time supporting anyone who was so in lockstep with McCain.

28 posted on 06/28/2010 6:45:30 PM PDT by Bullish (Been to all 57 States.... Or is it 58?)
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To: indylindy
we will start to question if Obama’s kids are actually Larry Sinclairs.

actually Baraq's kids look far more like Baraq than Chels Clinton looked like BJ and the MSM wanted none of that.

29 posted on 06/28/2010 6:46:00 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Look at the source. The Atlantic. They have NOTHING worthwhile in that rag to read. I know because I have a subscription, gifted to me by my 97 year old mother.

When it arrives, once a month, I rip my name label off the front and then drop it surreptitiosly in some public gathering place where there are magazines to read.

Just reading the headlines raises my blood pressure.


30 posted on 06/28/2010 6:46:14 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: basil

Sadly, points completely lost on Mr. Sullivan.


31 posted on 06/28/2010 6:47:42 PM PDT by Wicket (God bless and protect our troops and God bless America)
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To: chris_bdba

Only a truly deranged individual would think such a thing. I’d say Sullivan needs help, but he may be beyond help now.


32 posted on 06/28/2010 6:47:44 PM PDT by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: nascarnation

Turkey baster.


33 posted on 06/28/2010 6:47:55 PM PDT by dforest
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

grasping at straws just trying to come up with something
wow what a douche


34 posted on 06/28/2010 6:48:59 PM PDT by MissDairyGoodnessVT (Free Nobel Peace Prize with oil change =^..^=)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
'through the Republican sock-puppet, Howie Kurtz.

Howie Kurtz? Could anyone need more evidence that Sullivan is in the later stages of syphilitic dementia?

35 posted on 06/28/2010 6:49:25 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It's about the collapse of the press and the corrupt cynicism of a political system that foisted this farce upon us without performing any minimal due diligence.

Amazing! I could swear he was working in something there about Obama for a moment!

36 posted on 06/28/2010 6:49:25 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: JerseyDvl
consider her the last great hope remaining on the political horizon.

And she is and the commies know it. They pulled off the greatest conjob on America w/Barry and pushed through their progressive agenda - with her in office, they will lose it all and possibly charges brought. Any of the other R's and they won't lose much just set back a bit.

The slams against her hasn't stopped and she hasn't even announced she is running. All this for 'just in case' - that's how fearful they are of her.

Notice all the hit pieces on Newt, the Huckster, Mitt RomneyCare? /s. Only those that speak truth - Palin, Rush, Beck.
37 posted on 06/28/2010 6:52:06 PM PDT by presently no screen name ( Repeal ZeroCare!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Andy needs to double his Midol.


38 posted on 06/28/2010 6:54:15 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Throw the bums out who vote yes on the bail out)
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To: darkangel82

She really must be invading his dreams, you know as the one who will beat the “won”? ;)


39 posted on 06/28/2010 6:55:44 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: VRWC For Truth

He also needs to get back on the Thorazine.


40 posted on 06/28/2010 6:56:13 PM PDT by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That was one of the most repulsive articles I’ve ever read. What a sick, sick mind Sullivan has. I guess we should all pray for him.


41 posted on 06/28/2010 7:00:48 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I can just picture Andrew 20 years from now stating:

“Ah, but the strawberries, that’s that’s where I had them. They laughed at me and made jokes, but I proved beyond a shadow of a doubt, and with geometric logic that Trig was not Sarah Palin’s child.”

56 seconds into this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zgeQmzV9kk


42 posted on 06/28/2010 7:04:22 PM PDT by Chesterbelloc
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I can’t believe anyone with half a brain would print this stuff. Do these people expect to stay in business printing crap like this?


43 posted on 06/28/2010 7:08:11 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name now that we have the most conservative government in the world?)
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To: NurdlyPeon
Sarah makes me feel sorry for everybody. She makes me feel sorry for all the women because they’re not like her, and sorry for the men because all the women aren’t like her

Okay, thats creepy...

44 posted on 06/28/2010 7:09:25 PM PDT by Michael Barnes (Call me when the bullets start flying.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good Lord, are those psycho’s still attacking Trig?

WOW.


45 posted on 06/28/2010 7:14:45 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: Obadiah

“Have you ever noticed that Adrew Sullivan has this unnaturural prurient interest in all things Palin? I mean, it’s like a sickness, a psychosis. It’s like he’s unable to focus on anything else. Weird.”

This sounds like a poster here on FR, Robert J. He is totally obsessed with taking down Ms. Palin.


46 posted on 06/28/2010 7:17:03 PM PDT by rj45mis
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To: hennie pennie

I cannot believe they’re this desperate.


47 posted on 06/28/2010 7:19:57 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

This sodomite is fomenting violence against SP. I ask any retired special operator here to get with your fellow colleagues and take care of this. If you don’t, and something happens to her, its on you.


48 posted on 06/28/2010 7:20:33 PM PDT by JApost
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Silly Sully not only reads FR, but he posts here as a Seminar Freeper. I think his username is Bob K or something...

- JP


49 posted on 06/28/2010 7:22:52 PM PDT by Josh Painter ("Every time a Democrat mocks Sarah Palin, an independent gets its wings." - JP)
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To: rj45mis

Correction: Robert J = Bob J


50 posted on 06/28/2010 7:25:57 PM PDT by rj45mis
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