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Moonbat Explains Why He Detests the 4th of July, “I Hate Patriotism, It Leads to Fascism”…
Weasel Zippers ^ | 7/5/2010 | Weasel Zippers

Posted on 07/05/2010 11:48:21 AM PDT by Qbert

I’m confused, the left always says we can’t question their patriotism, yet Matthew Rothschild, editor of The Progressive magazine, hates America and he’s proud of it. Note: We all know the vast majority of the left feels this way but don’t have the b-lls to admit it publicly…

(The Progressive)- It’s July 4th, my least favorite holiday.

And I’m not referring to the bugs, or the crowds, or the traffic on the highways.

I’m talking about the mindless patriotic bubble bath we’re all supposed to soak in all weekend long.

Well, not me.

My heart does not beat faster at the strains of the Star Spangled Banner, much less at the sight of F-16s flying overhead to kick off the show.

You see, I don’t believe in patriotism.

You can call me unpatriotic if you’d like, but really I’m anti-patriotic.

I’ve been studying fascism lately, and there is one inescapable fact about it:

Nationalism is the egg that hatches fascism.

And patriotism is but the father of nationalism.

Patriotism is not something to play with. It’s highly toxic. When ingested, it corrodes the rational faculties.

American patriotism has also gotten in the way of solving global warming. Many in the United States, which consumes 25 percent of the world’s resources but has just 4 percent of the world’s population, believe we have the God-given right to use up all the resources we can. And there is an all-too-common attitude that we don’t need to listen to any other countries, or the U.N., or obey any international agreements because we’re Americans, and we’re better than everybody else.

We’ve got to get over patriotism, and we’ve got to cure the American superiority complex.


TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: dangerous; democrats; independenceday; liberalfascism; liberalprogressivism; liberals; marxists; progressives; unamerican; unpatriotic

1 posted on 07/05/2010 11:48:24 AM PDT by Qbert
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To: Qbert

LOL!


2 posted on 07/05/2010 11:49:08 AM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: Qbert
...Matthew Rothschild, editor of The Progressive magazine, hates America and he’s proud of it.

He's perfectly welcome to leave for whatever second or third world Marxist paradise he thinks is better...and please Matthew, don't even think about returning!

3 posted on 07/05/2010 11:52:14 AM PDT by JimRed (To water the Tree of Liberty is to excise a cancer before it kills us. TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Qbert

The North American Hippy Loon will never become an endangered species. They are all over the place.


4 posted on 07/05/2010 11:52:31 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ("A republic, if you can keep it." - Benjamin Franklin, 1787)
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To: Qbert
I’ve been studying fascism lately, and there is one inescapable fact about it: Nationalism is the egg that hatches fascism. And patriotism is but the father of nationalism. Patriotism is not something to play with. It’s highly toxic. When ingested, it corrodes the rational faculties.

Actually he disproves his point, because by his own admittance his utter corrosion of rational faculties can't come from patriotism.

5 posted on 07/05/2010 11:57:08 AM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: Qbert

Matt should spend more time in a nonpatriotic country

North Korea perhaps? Cuba? Russia? Germany? South Africa? Iran? Liechtenstein?


6 posted on 07/05/2010 11:57:26 AM PDT by silverleaf (Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.)
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To: Qbert
Nationalism is the egg that hatches fascism.

Ahh, so the elimination of nations would solve the problem. Okay anarchist, which village you gonna belong to?

7 posted on 07/05/2010 12:03:22 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: FlingWingFlyer
The North American Hippy Loon will never become an endangered species. They are all over the place.

If they're not endangered, does that mean it's OK to hunt them? When are they in season?

8 posted on 07/05/2010 12:06:19 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (For the first time in half a century, there is no former KKK member in the US Senate.)
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To: Fresh Wind

9 posted on 07/05/2010 12:07:46 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Sigh. I miss Bloom County.


10 posted on 07/05/2010 12:09:17 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (You can evade reality, but you cannot evade the consequences of evading reality. ~Ayn Rand)
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To: Qbert

He is just spreading misinformation. He knows socialism leads to fascism.


11 posted on 07/05/2010 12:10:08 PM PDT by stockpirate ("......When the government fears the people you have liberty." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: dfwgator

LOL! A true classic!


12 posted on 07/05/2010 12:10:26 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (For the first time in half a century, there is no former KKK member in the US Senate.)
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To: Qbert

This is written as if Barry Soetero himself authored it.


13 posted on 07/05/2010 12:11:15 PM PDT by 2111USMC
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To: Qbert

By its very nature, there has never been a sovereign country that did not encourage patriotism. Relatively few of them have become Fascist in a real sense (as opposed to left-conformist hyperbole).

Rothschild really only decries American patriotism, out of malice toward this country specifically, or more likely out of ignorance of the kind of jingoism and nationalism that are a way of life in Europe, the communist countries, and the rest of the America-hating parts of the world. The degree of nationalistic boasting we hear from European visitors would be embarrassing to Americans if it weren’t so infuriating in its transparent hypocrisy.

One usually hears this from people I call hinterland elitists, college grads or students who had high status in the back-of-beyond towns where they grew up, but who find themselves struggling to maintain that status when they get out into the big world.

If you’re around students much at all, this is as characteristic as a finger print. The loudmouthed lefties are invariably children of local muckety-mucks and small business owners who find themselves in shock at not being anything special anymore, hence the attention-grabbing embrace of contrarian politics. As Dennis Miller said, “Contrarianism is distinction for the untalented.”


14 posted on 07/05/2010 12:16:10 PM PDT by atomic conspiracy (Victory in Iraq: Worst defeat for activist media since Goebbels shot himself.)
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To: Qbert

This is as far from truth as can be.

It is not patriotism that causes facism.

It is the willingness to invest the government with too much power. Like your health care, your car purchases, your energy supply, etc.


15 posted on 07/05/2010 12:16:16 PM PDT by I still care (I believe in the universality of freedom -George Bush, asked if he regrets going to war.)
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To: Qbert
You can call me unpatriotic if you’d like, but really I’m anti-patriotic.

HA!

I have a few choice things I would love to call him and if lucky enough to be able to do it face to face I am confident in my ability to wipe the "intellectual" attitude right out of his demeanor and bring out the REAL commie in him.

You know, when the little twisted sick-o libs get all red-faced, screechy and start dropping "f-bombs," M-F’s and incoherent accusations about "Bush."

HAHAHAHAHA! FUN!

16 posted on 07/05/2010 12:17:27 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: silverleaf

Patriotism sucks?
Hurray for internationalism = one big happy family behind barbed wires, all equal with nothing, ruled by red morons?
The way Kenyan is going, we will soon celebrate May 1 - International Worker’s Day instead of Independence Day.


17 posted on 07/05/2010 12:20:36 PM PDT by Leo Carpathian (fffffFRrrreeeeepppeeee-ssed!)
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To: dfwgator

LOL!


18 posted on 07/05/2010 12:21:05 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Holder needs to resign! Now!)
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To: Qbert; conservativeharleyguy

ping (for the cartoon)


19 posted on 07/05/2010 12:21:16 PM PDT by conservativeharleyguy (Democrats: Over 60 million fooled daily!)
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To: Qbert
...United States, which consumes 25 percent of the world’s resources but has just 4 percent of the world’s population,

The moronic left wants people to think that other nations use less by choice. It because those nations don't have the capability of doing such.

20 posted on 07/05/2010 12:21:45 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: Qbert

If this pathetic excuse for a functioning human is the editor of the Progressive Magazine, I’d say they’re in a whole heap o’ trouble.


21 posted on 07/05/2010 12:25:31 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Qbert
American patriotism has also gotten in the way of solving global warming.

How do you solve a problem that is a total fraud?

We’ve got to get over patriotism, and we’ve got to cure the American superiority complex.

Globalist Communist stupidity on parade. (Progressives)

22 posted on 07/05/2010 12:41:27 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: Qbert

Oddly enough, it seems that every facist country started down the road to facism by giving power to a petty tyrant who promised to give them “what they deserve” by seizing it from a group they despise.

This is just my observation. I could be wrong.


23 posted on 07/05/2010 12:47:34 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear (Does not play well with others)
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> ...we’ve got to cure the American superiority complex.

Okay, Matthew Rothschild, editor of The Progressive magazine, name the country which, in the total balance of moral, technological, social, political, etc. value, is superior to the United States of America.

There are a few countries which may be shown to exceed one or another of our capabilities, in certain selected aspects, that is true. But in the overall balance of civilized advances in human culture, liberty, and helping our fellow man around the world, there is none which exceeds America. None!

So if we exhibit a certain amount of "superiority complex", I'd say we have earned it. Matthew Rothschild can kiss my American-made, superior @ss.

24 posted on 07/05/2010 12:49:01 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: AndrewC

Nationalism doesn’t lead to fascism,

fascism leads to fascism
socialism leads to fascism
central planning leads to fascism
thinking you know better than others leads to fascism

He must be thinking of national SOCIALISM, Nazis.
Of course, they were just fascists that happened to be strong patriots, but they were FASCISTS first.


25 posted on 07/05/2010 12:59:53 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Fresh Wind

IIRC rats are always in season? ;)


26 posted on 07/05/2010 1:11:07 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Qbert

*Why should someone who openly admits of hating this country be allowed to live here in freedom?

*Because of his First Amendment rights?

*But don’t his/her fellow citizens, who do not hate this country, also enjoy the same rights of safety, pursuit of happiness, and protection by the same Constitution?

*Is it not logical to assume that someone who openly admits to hating this country is predisposed to harming the country thereby also endangering its citizens who do not hate the country?

*Does it mean that the law equally protects both the potential criminal and the good citizen? This means that the good citizen is at a distinct disadvantage for he cannot anticipate the criminal’s intent, isn’t he?

All you brainy and rational FReepers please shed some light on this delemma.


27 posted on 07/05/2010 1:14:30 PM PDT by 353FMG (ISLAM - America's inevitable road to destruction.)
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To: stockpirate

Fascism is about control. Nationalism is just the tool or the bait used to lure the masses in, putting the fascists in a position to motivate/ manipulate the masses and exert that control.

Patriotic Americans are rightly proud of their nation and the freedom it has provided. The real Fascists . . . the leftists . . . desire to destroy that freedom and control the citizens. The true spirit of our American heritage is individual freedom, and the Leftists in charge are attacking those freedoms on many fronts.


28 posted on 07/05/2010 1:16:35 PM PDT by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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To: Qbert
the United States, which consumes 25 percent of the world’s resources but has just 4 percent of the world’s population,

My grandaughter had a Russian teacher in high school that preached this garbage to the students and my grandaughter believed it. She is a few years older now and very conservative, thank goodness.

29 posted on 07/05/2010 1:18:44 PM PDT by beckysueb (January 20, 2013. When Obama becomes just a skidmark on the panties of American history.)
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To: Qbert
Nationalism is the egg that hatches fascism. And patriotism is but the father of nationalism.

Yup, and drinking milk as a child leads to heroin addiction.

(Where do they get these guys?!)

30 posted on 07/05/2010 1:28:26 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: atomic conspiracy

“One usually hears this from people I call hinterland elitists, college grads or students who had high status in the back-of-beyond towns where they grew up, but who find themselves struggling to maintain that status when they get out into the big world.

If you’re around students much at all, this is as characteristic as a finger print. The loudmouthed lefties are invariably children of local muckety-mucks and small business owners who find themselves in shock at not being anything special anymore, hence the attention-grabbing embrace of contrarian politics. As Dennis Miller said, “Contrarianism is distinction for the untalented.”

Yeah, there’s a lot of truth to that. You also see the attention-seeking a lot with the spoiled lefties who had parents who were bigshot executives (Billy Ayers, Jeanine Garbuffalo- or whatever her names is, etc.). The kids probably didn’t get the attention they needed growing up because their parents were busy at work all the time and/or the kids were just inherently overly needy. So they grow up lashing out at authority figures to try feel validated and needed. I think they also view “America” as a replacement for their parents in some weird sense- a land of all the normal families that they never had- so they rail away with their attention-seeking (and quite frankly, banal) behavior.


31 posted on 07/05/2010 1:53:47 PM PDT by Qbert
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To: Qbert
which consumes 25 percent of the world’s resources

How does one even begin to quanify this? Are we going to use up all of the resources in 4 years? The sky is falling!

32 posted on 07/05/2010 1:59:15 PM PDT by lwd
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To: lwd

oops.....”Quantify”


33 posted on 07/05/2010 2:01:01 PM PDT by lwd
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To: Qbert
So, is patriotism an exclusive aspect of Fascism? If so, would you care to comment upon the old Soviet Union's universal name for what we call World War 2? They call it the "Great Patriotic War" and they would take great exception to being referred to as Fascists!

People of this philosophy project their desires without consideration of real world factors. A non-patriotic society has nothing to rally around and therefore how does it hold together. If there is a competing society (and there will be given human nature) that does cohere to a rallying principal, will it not prevail?

This 'intellectual' is the equivalent of what Robert Heinlein called a 'Bull Pacifist' and I recommend the same solution - open hunting season with no bag limit.

34 posted on 07/05/2010 2:02:20 PM PDT by SES1066 (Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
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To: Qbert

I have a brother in law who thinks just like this. In fact, 3 years ago when Mr G said “Happy Birthday America” the man exploded. We finally decided he is so toxic (after this and several other run ins) that we have severed all contact with him.


35 posted on 07/05/2010 2:03:11 PM PDT by Grammy
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
It because those nations don't have the capability of doing such.

You are correct and the other side of the leftist cant and canard is that if the US were to sink to the point of consuming 24%, by most economic computations (ie those not based upon delusional theorems) the rest of the world would go into the GREATEST DEPRESSION.

Try running an IC engine without a functioning spark-plug, it matters not how much gas you give it, it will not run. The days when nations and economies were self-sustaning ended long before the last century started and the World is BETTER FOR IT! Idiots like this loon will ever look only upon the negatives and, like the immature baby that they are, cry for the unobtainable moon!

36 posted on 07/05/2010 2:16:12 PM PDT by SES1066 (Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
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To: Qbert

Sadly, this crotchfruit speaks for the bulk of today’s Democrat. They’ll refuse to believe the FACT that we have the greatest nation that mankind has ever conceived. They don’t just hate America, they despise all who have actually WORKED to achieve the American Dream.

I have only 4 words for such human excrement: GFYS!


37 posted on 07/05/2010 2:33:25 PM PDT by TruthHound ("He who does not punish evil commands it to be done." --Leonardo da Vinci)
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To: Qbert

“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”

—(Samuel Adams, speech at the Philadelphia State House, August 1, 1776)


38 posted on 07/05/2010 2:40:18 PM PDT by MS.BEHAVIN (Women who behave rarely make history)
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To: Grammy

“I have a brother in law who thinks just like this. In fact, 3 years ago when Mr G said “Happy Birthday America” the man exploded. We finally decided he is so toxic (after this and several other run ins) that we have severed all contact with him.”

I’ve seen psychotic Lib outbursts just like that!! It’s funny how the leftists are harping about right wing “rage” when people like that can’t have a civilized discussion without exploding at people anytime they disagree with something. Typical Lib projection, I guess.


39 posted on 07/05/2010 2:40:30 PM PDT by Qbert
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Matthew Rothschild

Matthew Rothschild grew up in a liberal Democratic family in Highland Park, Ill. His father was a Chicago attorney and served on the school board. His mother was active in local civil rights and fair-housing issues, while raising eight kids. "Biggest Jewish family this side of Haifa," Rothschild says with a broad smile.

Riding the A's to Harvard, Rothschild studied Karl Marx and Antonio Gramsci, became involved in the anti-Apartheid movement on campus and was introduced to anti-corporate politics. "It was an eye-opening experience," he says.

40 posted on 07/05/2010 2:46:34 PM PDT by kcvl
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“...Biggest Jewish family this side of Haifa,” Rothschild says with a broad smile.”

Good thing he’s bashing those eeeeeevil patriotic Americans- the ones that helped defeat the Nazis, and brought down the heavily anti-Jewish Soviet Union...


41 posted on 07/05/2010 3:03:26 PM PDT by Qbert
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To: FlingWingFlyer

All the drugs, hippy free love pay back forty years later.


42 posted on 07/05/2010 4:11:34 PM PDT by Americanexpat
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To: Texas Fossil

Man that must have come directly frim zero that is what he has been saying since he got elected.


43 posted on 07/05/2010 4:15:05 PM PDT by Americanexpat
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To: Qbert

It is a damn good thing that the Russians did not have the strength or means to invade the USA because there would have been millions of fith columnists to help conquer this country. The only good thing about zero getting elected is that they have scurried out of hiding like the cockroahes they are.


44 posted on 07/05/2010 4:22:41 PM PDT by Americanexpat
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To: RatRipper

Fascism is a form of government that can only come about via socialism, it is a form of socialism just like communism. The difference between the two is one the government owns the means of production and with fascism the government controls the private sector via rules and regulations.


45 posted on 07/06/2010 6:17:05 AM PDT by stockpirate ("......When the government fears the people you have liberty." Thomas Jefferson)
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