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Online Sources and Our Twisted Imaginations | Monday, July 5, 2010 | everybody

Posted on 07/05/2010 4:23:27 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

 East W L Pct GB Home Road East Cent West Streak L10

New York Yankees 50 31 .617 -- 28-13 22-18 20-11 10-7 9-6 Won 2 6-4

Boston Red Sox 49 33 .598 1.5 29-17 20-16 18-17 10-9 8-2 Lost 1 6-4

Tampa Bay Rays 48 33 .593 2.0 20-19 28-14 19-10 11-6 11-6 Won 2 6-4

Toronto Blue Jays 41 42 .494 10.0 21-19 20-23 13-14 11-9 10-8 Lost 2 2-8

Baltimore Orioles 25 57 .305 25.5 16-25 9-32 9-27 4-6 5-13 Lost 1 5-5

 Central W L Pct GB Home Road East Cent West Streak L10

Detroit Tigers 44 37 .543 -- 28-12 16-25 6-2 14-16 13-12 Won 1 5-5

Minnesota Twins 44 38 .537 0.5 26-17 18-21 8-13 19-10 9-5 Lost 2 4-6

Chicago White Sox 42 38 .525 1.5 20-19 22-19 7-11 13-17 7-7 Won 1 6-4

Kansas City Royals 36 46 .439 8.5 18-21 18-25 7-9 16-16 5-11 Lost 1 7-3

Cleveland Indians 32 49 .395 12.0 17-22 15-27 9-11 14-17 4-8 Lost 1 6-4

 West W L Pct GB Home Road East Cent West Streak L10

Texas Rangers 48 33 .593 -- 29-14 19-19 6-11 14-11 14-7 Lost 1 5-5

Los Angeles Angels 46 38 .548 3.5 24-20 22-18 9-10 11-12 15-9 Won 1 5-5

Oakland Athletics 41 42 .494 8.0 24-16 17-26 12-13 8-7 13-12 Won 1 7-3

Seattle Mariners 34 47 .420 14.0 20-18 14-29 8-9 10-8 7-21 Won 1 4-6

 East W L Pct GB Home Road East Cent West Streak L10

Atlanta Braves 48 34 .585 -- 30-10 18-24 13-13 15-6 11-9 Lost 1 6-4

New York Mets 46 36 .561 2.0 28-12 18-24 18-18 6-7 9-6 Won 1 5-5

Philadelphia Phillies 42 38 .525 5.0 20-15 22-23 14-15 13-8 5-7 Lost 1 4-6

Florida Marlins 38 43 .469 9.5 21-23 17-20 17-16 9-7 5-12 Won 1 3-7

Washington Nationals 36 47 .434 12.5 22-18 14-29 15-15 9-9 7-10 Lost 1 3-7

 Central W L Pct GB Home Road East Cent West Streak L10

Cincinnati Reds 47 36 .566 -- 27-19 20-17 8-7 25-15 6-7 Won 1 7-3

St. Louis Cardinals 45 37 .549 1.5 27-15 18-22 10-5 19-15 7-11 Won 1 5-5

Milwaukee Brewers 37 45 .451 9.5 17-22 20-23 4-12 15-20 9-7 Lost 1 5-5

Chicago Cubs 35 47 .427 11.5 20-23 15-24 5-10 15-25 7-2 Lost 1 3-7

Houston Astros 32 51 .386 15.0 16-24 16-27 5-8 15-12 9-19 Lost 3 4-6

Pittsburgh Pirates 30 52 .366 16.5 19-20 11-32 5-10 17-19 6-10 Won 1 5-5

 West W L Pct GB Home Road East Cent West Streak L10

San Diego Padres 49 33 .598 -- 27-19 22-14 13-9 12-5 15-13 Won 3 7-3

Los Angeles Dodgers 45 36 .556 3.5 24-15 21-21 4-9 14-10 23-6 Won 2 7-3

Colorado Rockies 44 38 .537 5.0 26-15 18-23 11-8 5-9 19-15 Won 1 6-4

San Francisco Giants 41 40 .506 7.5 25-17 16-23 10-5 15-7 9-20 Lost 1 2-8

Arizona Diamondbacks 32 50 .390 17.0 19-20 13-30 6-6 10-13 10-22 Lost 2 4-6



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1 posted on 07/05/2010 4:23:38 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv

How did Votto not make the allstar game???


2 posted on 07/05/2010 4:25:10 PM PDT by barmag25
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To: Neets; Molly Pitcher; lysie; b4its2late; Bitwhacker; The Raven; Miss Marple

FYI


3 posted on 07/05/2010 4:30:32 PM PDT by Jemian
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To: barmag25

Yesterday I was looking at the standings and realized W-L added up to 80 or near it, meaning midseason was upon us. Dunno how that happened, but anyway, that got me wondering if there was such a topic, so, there wasn’t, and here it is. :’)

Regarding Votto, dunno.


4 posted on 07/05/2010 4:33:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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All-Star Rosters:

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/events/all_star/y2010/roster_league.jsp


5 posted on 07/05/2010 4:36:29 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: barmag25

The broadcasters were agreeing with you about Votto today during the Tigers game.

I know if I were sending a rookie I would send Brennan Boesch (Tigers). 60 games in his career, 46 RBIs and a .344 batting average. The Orioles walked him 4 times today.

Interestingly enough I see Austin Jackson in the ad for the All Star game. He’s the Tiger rookie who gets the headlines but Boesch is a far better player in my opinion.


6 posted on 07/05/2010 4:38:43 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: SunkenCiv

Glad to see that Baltimore is over the .300 mark.


7 posted on 07/05/2010 4:42:49 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: SunkenCiv

The Rangers may be in first place now, but by September, they will have plenty of time to go to Cowboys games.


8 posted on 07/05/2010 4:44:30 PM PDT by nhoward14 (I'm starting The 595 Club... A discount from 700)
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To: SunkenCiv

GO BRAVES!

Win One More for Bobby!


9 posted on 07/05/2010 4:47:08 PM PDT by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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To: fhayek

Tigers threw a newbie pitcher at them today and let them have batting practice for a little while. LOL


10 posted on 07/05/2010 4:47:17 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: fhayek

Yeah, it’s tough for a team to be on the outs (as it were), and believe me, I feel for Orioles fans. The Tigers not long ago (before Jim became manager) came within a whisker of setting a new record for most losses in a season, and that was merely the bottoming out of a long period of general ennui. Now, hey, they’re not bad.


11 posted on 07/05/2010 4:54:58 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: fhayek

“Glad to see that Baltimore is over the .300 mark.”

Yeah, and we Pirate fans are pretty happy with Baltimore’s recent surge ... we are only 7 or so games back of the Orioles for the worst record in baseball. It’ll be hard, but I think the Pirates can pull off nabbing the 1st overall pick next year. Of course, it won’t be the most talented pick of the draft since the Pirates will cry poor and not draft him, but, hey, it’s the prestige we are after, right? I mean, why only lose for 18 seasons in a row when 20 just sounds better.

It’ll take disciplined losing and more trades on our part, but I honestly think the Buccos can do it. Let’s Go Bucs!


12 posted on 07/05/2010 5:04:20 PM PDT by edh (I need a better tagline)
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To: SunkenCiv

So whatever happened to Alan Trammel anyway? Did he find work in baseball or did he just go home?


13 posted on 07/05/2010 5:56:44 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: nhoward14
Don't be so sure. The Angels ain't what they used to be (Guererro now with Texas), Oakland is a lot of young no-bodies; and, my Seattle Mariners are, well, the Seattle Mariners. Sigh. I think this is the weakest division in all of baseball, so, Texas may have a shot at the playoffs this year. How far they go, well, that's another question.

And, hey, Felix Hernandez not on the All-Star roster? I know his win/loss looks pretty mediocre; but, most of those losses were lost by the bullpen this year. He has actually been having a good year pitching, tho his stats don't show it.

14 posted on 07/05/2010 6:16:56 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: cripplecreek
So whatever happened to Alan Trammel anyway? Did he find work in baseball

Sadly no. He's a coach for the Cubs.

15 posted on 07/05/2010 6:20:05 PM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: cripplecreek
So whatever happened to Alan Trammel anyway? Did he find work in baseball

Sadly no. He's a coach for the Cubs.

16 posted on 07/05/2010 6:20:14 PM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Hegewisch Dupa
Sadly no. He's a coach for the Cubs.

LOL. As a Tiger fan its hard to not like the guy but his greatest managerial claim to fame was the fact that he got tossed out of a record number of games. We do have Lloyd McClendon who has the distinction of being famous for getting thrown out of a game and taking first base to the clubhouse with him.
17 posted on 07/05/2010 6:30:18 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: SunkenCiv
As a Mariner fan, I have come to terms with the departure of Cliff Lee, one of the few, very few, bright spots of this season. The rumors were running fast and furious that NY wanted Cliff Lee; but I just caught this at a Mariner's fan blog, and they are usually pretty accurate:

"Deal With Rangers Done"

Dave · July 9, 2010 · Filed Under Mariners Per Joel Sherman, as always. Ken Rosenthal confirms.

"I have learned deal done with #Rangers, Smoak and 3 others for Lee and reliever Mark Lowe"

"I love Justin Smoak, and prefer him to Jesus Montero, so I’m prepared to dance with joy." "Celebration time. The M’s now have a first baseman of the present and future"

18 posted on 07/09/2010 2:31:40 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: nhoward14
I just posted on this thread again, and it concerns the Rangers (Post #18). They may, waiting for actual confirmation, be adding Cliff Lee to their pitching staff.

I've been watching Lee this season pitch for the Mariners, and adding this guy to their roster will only improve their chances of taking the division.

19 posted on 07/09/2010 2:33:53 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: Conan the Librarian; SunkenCiv

Go braves.


20 posted on 07/09/2010 2:36:42 PM PDT by Vigilantcitizen
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To: nhoward14
I heard that Nolan Ryan is trying to convince the team that it's the other guys who have a problem with the heat - not them.

Worth a try.

...an Angels fan.

21 posted on 07/09/2010 2:40:34 PM PDT by Churchillspirit (9/11/01...NEVER FORGET.)
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To: SunkenCiv; nutmeg; Misterioso

Thanks, Sunken Civ. Looks like we have a place to hang out and talk baseball, eh.

Dodgers are 3 back (tied with Rockies) of the Madres, as they won vs. Cubbies last night. Kershaw turned in an awesome performance, 12Ks and no Walks. Furcal is our firecracker and hottest hitter in BB; his HR won it for our otherwise subdued offense.


22 posted on 07/09/2010 2:53:31 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (with love, from me, to you)
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To: cripplecreek; Hegewisch Dupa

I laughed too, but yeah, gotta love Trammell. When he was hitting coach, he stated for the press that, since the team wasn’t hitting, the Tigers needed to fire him. They either did fire him, or they promoted him to manager when they fired whomever that was. Either way, he wound up manager, and the rest really is history. ;’)


23 posted on 07/09/2010 9:49:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: nhoward14; Conan the Librarian; LibertarianLiz; Vigilantcitizen; La Enchiladita
Wow, the three-way fight for first in the AL Central just got odd, the Twins dropped three straight (it sez here), and the White Sox moved to second.

 American League
 East W L Pct GB Home Road East Cent West Streak L10
 New York Yankees 54 31 .635 -- 28-13 26-18 20-11 10-7 13-6 Won 6 7-3
 Tampa Bay Rays 52 34 .605 2.5 24-20 28-14 22-10 12-7 11-6 Lost 1 8-2
 Boston Red Sox 50 36 .581 4.5 29-17 21-19 19-20 10-9 8-2 Won 1 5-5
 Toronto Blue Jays 43 44 .494 12.0 23-21 20-23 13-15 13-10 10-8 Lost 1 3-7
 Baltimore Orioles 26 59 .306 28.0 16-25 10-34 9-27 4-8 6-13 Won 1 3-7
 Central W L Pct GB Home Road East Cent West Streak L10
 Detroit Tigers 47 37 .560 -- 31-12 16-25 8-2 15-16 13-12 Won 4 7-3
 Chicago White Sox 47 38 .553 0.5 25-19 22-19 7-11 14-17 11-7 Won 6 8-2
 Minnesota Twins 45 41 .523 3.0 26-17 19-24 9-15 19-11 9-5 Lost 3 4-6
 Kansas City Royals 39 47 .453 9.0 18-21 21-26 7-9 16-17 8-11 Lost 1 7-3
 Cleveland Indians 34 52 .395 14.0 17-22 17-30 10-12 14-17 5-10 Won 1 5-5
 West W L Pct GB Home Road East Cent West Streak L10
 Texas Rangers 50 35 .588 -- 31-16 19-19 6-12 16-12 14-7 Lost 1 4-6
 Los Angeles Angels 46 42 .523 5.5 24-20 22-22 9-10 11-16 15-9 Lost 4 3-7
 Oakland Athletics 41 45 .477 9.5 24-19 17-26 12-16 8-7 13-12 Lost 3 5-5
 Seattle Mariners 34 51 .400 16.0 20-22 14-29 8-10 10-11 7-21 Lost 4 3-7
 National League
 East W L Pct GB Home Road East Cent West Streak L10
 Atlanta Braves 51 35 .593 -- 30-10 21-25 16-14 15-6 11-9 Won 3 7-3
 New York Mets 47 39 .547 4.0 29-15 18-24 18-19 7-9 9-6 Lost 2 4-6
 Philadelphia Phillies 45 40 .529 5.5 23-17 22-23 15-17 15-8 5-7 Won 2 4-6
 Florida Marlins 41 45 .477 10.0 21-23 20-22 17-16 9-7 8-14 Won 1 5-5
 Washington Nationals 39 48 .448 12.5 25-19 14-29 15-15 9-9 10-11 Won 1 6-4
 Central W L Pct GB Home Road East Cent West Streak L10
 Cincinnati Reds 49 39 .557 -- 27-19 22-20 10-10 25-15 6-7 Lost 2 6-4
 St. Louis Cardinals 46 40 .535 2.0 27-15 19-25 10-5 20-15 7-14 Won 1 4-6
 Chicago Cubs 38 48 .442 10.0 20-23 18-25 5-10 15-25 10-3 Lost 1 5-5
 Milwaukee Brewers 38 49 .437 10.5 18-26 20-23 4-12 16-20 9-11 Won 1 3-7
 Houston Astros 35 52 .402 13.5 19-25 16-27 5-8 18-13 9-19 Lost 1 5-5
 Pittsburgh Pirates 30 56 .349 18.0 19-20 11-36 5-10 17-23 6-10 Lost 4 4-6
 West W L Pct GB Home Road East Cent West Streak L10
 San Diego Padres 50 35 .588 -- 27-19 23-16 14-11 12-5 15-13 Won 1 5-5
 Colorado Rockies 47 38 .553 3.0 29-15 18-23 11-8 8-9 19-15 Won 4 8-2
 Los Angeles Dodgers 47 38 .553 3.0 26-17 21-21 5-11 15-10 23-6 Won 1 7-3
 San Francisco Giants 45 41 .523 5.5 25-17 20-24 10-6 19-7 9-20 Lost 1 5-5
 Arizona Diamondbacks 33 54 .379 18.0 20-24 13-30 7-7 10-16 10-22 Lost 1 3-7

24 posted on 07/09/2010 9:58:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: SunkenCiv

Looks like for the second night in a row, the Rangers are going to blow a 4-0 against the lowly Orioles.


25 posted on 07/09/2010 10:03:15 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

The Orioles played the Tigers surprisingly tough when they were in Detroit. They’re out of it but maybe they’ll turn things around and finish the season above .300


26 posted on 07/10/2010 4:02:39 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: SunkenCiv; All

Excitement building locally for the All Star game in Anaheim. Two Dodgers, Rafael Furcal and Hong-Chi Kuo, were added over the weekend to our representation, which already consisted of Andre Ethier and Jon Broxton. Doggies are two back of first place. Looking forward to second half of the season!!


27 posted on 07/12/2010 12:24:51 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (with love, from me, to you)
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To: La Enchiladita; SunkenCiv

Anybody else watching the home run derby tonight?

I’m biased but I think Cabrera is taking it this year. We’ll see how he does in the first round.

He is a triple crown threat.


28 posted on 07/12/2010 6:03:56 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: cripplecreek

I’m not, is it on cable or sat, or just on reg broadcast TV?


29 posted on 07/12/2010 6:36:39 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: SunkenCiv

MLB tv and ESPN.

Cabrera is in the second round with 7 home runs. One of those was some 467 feet.


30 posted on 07/12/2010 6:39:35 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: La Enchiladita

Detroit won 7 out of their last 8, and lost the lead (they had been 1/2 game up on the ChiSox, who won 8 out of their last 8). Crazy! That was where I left off, I should check standings again.

Speaking of standings, I think the Allstar game record is about an even split, overall, but the NL has a 13-game winless streak going right now. Must be that DH rule which makes NL teams better hitters. ;’)


31 posted on 07/12/2010 6:45:15 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: cripplecreek

Cabrera won’t make it.


32 posted on 07/12/2010 6:58:02 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: SunkenCiv

When the second half starts the Tigers will face the indians who are last in the central division.


33 posted on 07/12/2010 7:00:16 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: SunkenCiv

Re Tigers, I enjoyed our inter-league series vs. their team. Sorry Austin Jackson got hit (side of batting helmet) with a pitch by Padilla.

Torre was asked about the All Star game the other day and he answered, “I want home field advantage!!” Enuf said.


34 posted on 07/13/2010 4:13:24 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (with love, from me, to you)
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To: La Enchiladita
No harm done. :') I'm often reminded of a saying attributed to Yogi Berra, "90 percent of baseball is half mental."

Colorado's Ubaldo Jimenez was on the mound, meanwhile:
35 posted on 07/13/2010 7:03:51 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: cripplecreek

Yeah, I’m a little amazed that the Indians — who were generally formidable, and often contenders for ten or so years — have sunk to their pre-”Major League” status. Personally, I think the Drew Carey Show had a lot to do with Cleveland’s major league renaissance. ;’)


36 posted on 07/13/2010 7:05:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: SunkenCiv

Looks like the American league is fixin to score. Men on 2nd and 3rd wioth no outs.


37 posted on 07/13/2010 7:11:03 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: dfwgator

I’m reminded of George Allen, who coached in the NFL (and later in the USFL), how his constant over decades was to say, the difference between victory and defeat is “this much” and he held his palms about a foot apart. Teams can be just a little off, and their records look terrible. They have a winning night, and it seems surprisng. :’)

Hey, I should know — the Red Wings have been a big deal for fifteen years now, but they had a forty year dry spell before that; the Pistons finally crawled to the top of the game twenty years ago, and for the most part have had a winning culture ever since; the Lions haven’t won the championship since 1957 (i know, bad example); and the Tigers haven’t done too badly historically, even though their last championship was 1984, and before that 1968, and before that, probably around WWII. :’) And after all, very few teams have won the World Series more than four times.


38 posted on 07/13/2010 7:12:24 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: cripplecreek

I do think the DH rule is good for the AL. Most pitchers are (to be kind) so-so hitters, and that makes the job of the pitcher on the mound 1/9th easier (at least), just like that. So the NL pitching stats get a little bounce, and its really just due to skew from not having a DH rule.

Some columnist years ago (when interleague play was begun) wrote that the league *should* flip the script — when the NL team vs the AL team is at home, the DH rule should be used; when the AL team is at home, the DH rule should NOT be used. That way the NL crowds would see it used, and the AL crowds would see what it’s like w/o it.

That makes a lot of sense to me.

But I was talking on my cell phone and got hit in the head by a liner.


39 posted on 07/13/2010 7:17:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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I heard Costanza’s thinking of buying the team.

George Steinbrenner Suffers Massive Heart Attack (AP Update-He has died)
Fox News | 7/13/10 | Fox News Crawl
Posted on 07/13/2010 6:47:13 AM PDT by Haiku Guy
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2551648/posts

George Steinbrenner, owner of New York Yankees,
has died in Tampa at age of 80: source
New York Daily News | July 17, 2010 | Bill Madden
Posted on 07/13/2010 7:18:14 AM PDT by BradtotheBone
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2551676/posts


40 posted on 07/13/2010 7:19:15 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: cripplecreek

AL leads 1-0

http://www.freep.com/article/20100713/SPORTS02/100713071/All-Star-Game-scoreless-in-fifth-inning


41 posted on 07/13/2010 7:31:29 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: SunkenCiv

Ubaldo was a little wild at times, but in the end our NL pitchers prevailed, with a little help from defense and the Mighty McCann’s bat.

We’re going to be hearing about the Arizona All Stars game for the entire coming year. It will be tiresome. I hope none of the Dodgers disgrace themselves by chiming in. To paraphrase Laura Ingraham, “Shut up and play baseball.”

OTH, if equal numbers of players (and managers) from each league boycott, then who cares?? The cream of the crop will remain and I will be there to support Arizona.


42 posted on 07/14/2010 11:06:52 AM PDT by La Enchiladita (with love, from me, to you)
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To: La Enchiladita

:’)


43 posted on 07/14/2010 3:29:35 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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