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Chinese Firm Drops Local IQ Standards for U.S. Hires
Daily Tech ^ | July 8, 2010 | Jason Mick

Posted on 07/08/2010 9:22:43 AM PDT by decimon

Says lower IQ rates will help it deal with smaller U.S. talent pool

The U.S. has arguably been the most desirable place in the world to get a college education with international students from China, India, Japan, and others all traveling to the U.S. with that express purpose. However, there's serious signs of trouble; U.S. citizens' college graduation rates are in danger of falling behind China. Japanese enrollment is down as U.S. universities are slowly falling out of favor. And at least one executive of an Indian firm complained that American graduates were "unemployable".

Adding to the list of awkward statistics is a recent announcement by Bleum Inc., a Chinese outsourcing company. In China, with a deluge of available highly-intelligent graduates, Bleum Inc. requires that its workers score over 140 on an IQ test.

When it decided to recruit American computer science graduates, though, it decided that bar was way too high. It dropped the requirement for the Americans down to 120, a move it says reflects a lower pool of talented college grads in the U.S.

Bleum says the move is meant as no affront to the U.S. Its founder and CEO Eric Rongley is actually an American himself. He says that in China his firm gets thousands of applications a week from eager college grads. With about 1,000 employees, his firm hires less than 1 percent of those who apply. He states, "It is much harder to get into Bleum than it is to Harvard."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Society
KEYWORDS: blameamericafirst; china; education; indianlabor; racism; tests; workforce; xenophobia
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Unemployable,
That's what you are
You're I.Q.,
Is so subpar
Yet, my darling, it's incroyable,
That someone so unemployable
Should think I'm,
Unemployable too
1 posted on 07/08/2010 9:22:47 AM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

I see the only solution is to outsource our kids to China.

Let them get a Chinese education. (Probably a lot cheaper than an Ivy League degree)


2 posted on 07/08/2010 9:27:04 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (PALIN/MCCAIN IN 2012 - barf alert? sarc tag? -- can't decide)
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To: decimon
But I bet we have better Womyn Studies and Black Studies graduates...
3 posted on 07/08/2010 9:29:19 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: decimon
Just off the top of my head, this is another affirmative action, screw the man bag of crap!!!

Just my 2 cents.

WAKE UP AMERICA




4 posted on 07/08/2010 9:29:27 AM PDT by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: decimon
How embarrassing for the U.S., no one to blame except the schools and affirmative action.
5 posted on 07/08/2010 9:30:00 AM PDT by annieokie
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To: decimon

wow they require a 140 IQ. That is setting the bar pretty high. Good for them I guess.

I have a high IQ but it’s not all it’s cracked up to be. Often it results in people who can’t feel empathy or compassion as everything is logic driven. It’s hard to communicate with others because they can’t follow. So if they need some number crunchers or programmers high IQs are good. But if they need leaders often times it gets in their way. Not saying all leaders have small IQs either.


6 posted on 07/08/2010 9:30:41 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: annieokie

Don’t forget the teachers’ unions.


7 posted on 07/08/2010 9:32:11 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: 2banana

Don’t forget GLBT “Happy” Studies.


8 posted on 07/08/2010 9:35:15 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: decimon
"And at least one executive of an Indian firm complained that American graduates were "unemployable". "

Interesting since almost all Indians I've worked with were terrible. Sure they'd put the hours in, but they couldn't problem solve and most lied about their knowledge base. This dude wants to create the image of "bad American workers" for a vested interest... to lure businesses into using firms like his to replace those "unemployable" Americans.
9 posted on 07/08/2010 9:36:09 AM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: Responsibility2nd

Definitely! My cousin’s husband is a math prof at Cal State and laments the lack of ability among the students in his classes, particularly the advanced levels. When he was an undergrad (the Eighties), an A required at least a score of 85. Using many of the same exams, the curve has been lowered to 80 or less depending upon the exam.

His greatest concern is the lack of inquisitiveness among most of his students. Also, in an essay question discussing math theory, juniors and seniors misspelled numerous words.


10 posted on 07/08/2010 9:36:17 AM PDT by 12Gauge687 (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice)
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To: decimon
And at least one executive of an Indian firm complained that American graduates were "unemployable".

Indian firms trying to defend their syphoning off of American tech sector jobs.

11 posted on 07/08/2010 9:36:31 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (I wish our president loved the US military as much as he loves Paul McCartney.)
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To: for-q-clinton
FWIW, I'm in the 120-130 range, which is supposed to be about the 85-95 percentile range. I would suppose when you get to 140, you're talking the 99 percentile range, aren't you?

Back when I was tested (high school), they wouldn't even give you your exact score, only the range. Since I graduated 14th in a class of 144, I suspect I'm right in the middle of the range.

I can't see where the intelligence has made me any extra money, but it has kept me from voting for libtards . . .

12 posted on 07/08/2010 9:41:32 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: decimon

US demographics have been shifting in favor of lower IQ segments.

Unmarried teenage mothers whom the government subsidizes to have babies (the hallowed “single moms” who are the mascot class of progressives) average one of the lowest IQ levels of the population.

Also, the tens of millions of illegals who have crossed the southern border significantly lower the average IQ of the country. The high school dropout rate for foreign-born hispanics is appallingly high. The argument by progressives that the children and grandchildren of this population will be widely engaged in high value-added economic activity, such as high-tech entrepreneurs or inventors of medical devices, is nonsense as the data show that the American-born generations following the immigrant generation still have ridiculously high dropout rates, not to mention 50% illegitimacy rates.

As the average IQ of the American population falls relative to other competing world economic zones, and as our economy and politics becomes more socialistic and sclerotic, the standard of living of the US will begin falling farther and farther behind.


13 posted on 07/08/2010 9:44:25 AM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: a fool in paradise

No, the standards here are far, far more lax than in India. Consider that EVERY Indian high school studend speaks AT LEAST 3 languages fluently. And I do mean ‘fluently’!! They speak English (spelling and grammar are impecable, American accent, not so much), they speak Hindi (national language of India) and whatever local dialect they grew up with. There are over 1,500 local dialects spoken in India.

In America, we can’t do enough for the stupid, lazy or unmotivated. We punish the achievers - heck, we even deny the Valadictorian and Salutatorian the honor of speaking at their graduation in many states. We can’t do enough for the losers.

In India, it’s achieve or go out on the streets and beg for food. Your future educational potential is based upon your previous educational achievements - now THAT is incentive.

So, he is absolutely and compoletely correct. Among Indians, they are trained to treat the average American as a high school drop-out; and given the standards they grow up with - they aren’t too far off.


14 posted on 07/08/2010 9:48:02 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: decimon

The natural result of “No Child Left Behind.” When no child is left behind, the educational system has been dumbed down until no child is educated.


15 posted on 07/08/2010 9:48:44 AM PDT by spaced
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To: decimon
Wasn't Einstein 166? Get any higher than that and you have someone who is unstable. Now, here's another teachable moment. While I can cuss and discuss the pros and cons of a superior IQ score, it must be noted that China isn't willing to take our poor, tired, humble masses yearning for work. THEY have standards (debatable as they might be), yet WE will take anybody (legally or illegally) just warm bodies (4 to be exact) to replace the income taxes I currently pay. China has all the cheap, uneducated bodies it can handle (as did we), so they want the best educated, highest intelligence to take on their entry into the industrial age.

We USED to do that. Now, we've lowered our standards to fit just about anyone who can fog a dental mirror. I guess China is willing to put up with those zany quirks that high IQs bring to the table. I would argue that I'd rather see an average IQ with study skills and a willingness to put forth the effort to master any given subject -- that would leave us with the task of finding educators who can manage to give that average IQ enough material (minus the liberal "world view") to see what they can do with it and insist that they meet a high bar to achieve the mastery.

16 posted on 07/08/2010 9:49:07 AM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: decimon
You're I.Q.,

Right. "You're" part of the problem.

17 posted on 07/08/2010 9:50:31 AM PDT by Doohickey ("It Takes A Spillage." - Mark Steyn)
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You're I.Q.,

Right. "You're" part of the problem.

I know just when to screw up, don't I?

Thanks.

18 posted on 07/08/2010 9:54:14 AM PDT by decimon
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To: for-q-clinton

For leaders of regular, American-IQ companies you may be right. For leaders of Chinese-IQ companies, they may simply want to select those with interpersonal skills from their vast 140+ pool. Each to relate to his average employee.


19 posted on 07/08/2010 9:55:06 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: decimon

I couldn’t add the sarcasm disclaimer without ruining the irony of the moment. Cheers!


20 posted on 07/08/2010 9:57:16 AM PDT by Doohickey ("It Takes A Spillage." - Mark Steyn)
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