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MENSA Syndrome (Something to think about)
Me and my weird mind | July 22, 2010 | MestaMachine

Posted on 07/22/2010 6:59:54 AM PDT by MestaMachine

Every here and there, I start out to answer a post on a specific thread with a sort of dry and often tongue-in-cheek response to the topic. This started out being such a response to a thread on the Journolist contributor who said she would "laugh like a maniac" while watching Rush Limbaugh die.

Originally, it was going to be short and sweet comparing those on Journolist to a MENSA elite called Zero's Zombies. I made up a mental illness.
The more I typed, the more I changed it and it started taking on a life of its own.

Suddenly, I realized it really wasn't funny anymore. The more I edited it, the more plausible it became.

The more you realize that children are today, right now, being taught that nothing they think or do is ever REALLY wrong or bad or sinful, the more this makes me shudder. Our kids are being prevented from thinking independently. They are being "protected" from our morals and values and being told that what WE think, say, or value is wrong. "Me" counts and ONLY ME counts in this world.

They are being taught lies are facts and lies become their truths. They think they are creating a society of conformists wherein everyone is "equal" and that they are ALL little geniuses in their own right. But is that what the real result of this will be?

I don't think so. If no one ever believes they are wrong, how will anyone know what is right? If everyone is the "same," how will those who think differently finally express their differences when they see them? Worse, how will those differences manifest themselves and how will those who are different be treated?

We are tipping into chaos. I don't know how to stop it.

Anyway, this is what my "short" post ended up as.

Open to comments and ideas...and thanks for reading.

Mesta

MENSA Syndrome
Extreme degenerative brain disease
Profound Neural dysfunction

Cause
Erroneous belief that one is somehow more superior to all others because they were mistakenly programmed by those who equate POTENTIAL VS ACTUAL knowledge and wisdom to IQ scores to believe they are absolute in their superiority.
This causes repeated instances of *Massive Extreme Neural Synapses Abuse* by those seeking to act on this unprovable, even dangerous, doctrine. Those who become infected create disonnance in their thinking patterns by becoming so overconfidant in their own abilities that they rationalize virtually everything they THINK to conform with what they BELIEVE and they can never once accept they might be wrong about anything, ever. Even the mere suggestion of fallibility to an infected person often results in outbursts of uncontrolled verbal rage and quite possibly, violence.
Prolonged exposure of the mind to this bombardment of illogical thought processes results in brain's inability to distinguish rational from irrational, reality from fantasy, truth from lies.

Ultimate Danger of MENSA Syndrome

Crosses all racial, ethnic, and religious lines.
Because onset is slow to recognize, a multitude of symptoms related to other neurological and pathological diseases might present themselves. These people are often diagnosed as sociopaths, psychopaths, narcissists, and various subcatagories or a combination of all of them...often by those who are also infected.

The exponential spread of MENSA Syndrome is now a pandemic.
Disease is unrecognized by, or unrecognizable to, those who are infected.
They believe they are "normal" and seek out others with the same traits.
Carriers of the illness will stop at nothing to inflict themselves on others.
Infected individuals are fraught with delusions of grandeur, see themselves as infallible geniuses, and will attempt to impose their view of reality on anyone they consider inferior.

Highly contagious and spread in various ways.

Incubation period
Varies with Age
Children are most highly susceptible

Probabilities
Might alter DNA
Parents with MENSA Syndrome might produce a child at high risk for the syndrome, however rescue might be impossible since the illness is unrecognized by those who have it.

Diagnosis
Braindeath/Entropy

Long term prognosis
Devolution

Result of unrestrained contagion
World War Z
Armageddon


TOPICS: Education; Government; Miscellaneous; Politics
KEYWORDS: mentalillness; pandemicdevolution; pathology
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Like I said...my weird mind. Anyone else think like this?
1 posted on 07/22/2010 6:59:57 AM PDT by MestaMachine
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To: MestaMachine

Jesus Christ is the answer.


2 posted on 07/22/2010 7:03:06 AM PDT by Mere Survival (The time to fight was yesterday but now will have to do.)
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To: MestaMachine

Yes.


3 posted on 07/22/2010 7:03:19 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 544 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Mere Survival

I don’t think you understand the question.


4 posted on 07/22/2010 7:04:03 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 544 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: null and void

Nornin’, null. I am serious. This started out as a joke.


5 posted on 07/22/2010 7:05:17 AM PDT by MestaMachine (De inimico non loquaris sed cogites- Don't wish ill for your enemy; plan it)
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To: MestaMachine
Mensa Syndrome is a real problem. A million people in lofty places, suffering from Aspergers Syndrome, disagree.
6 posted on 07/22/2010 7:07:35 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......?)
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To: MestaMachine

Me too. I have though roughly along the same lines, but in a much less formal and codified fashion.

Upon contemplation I might be able to add a minuscule bit or to to what you’ve said, but on first blush, you nailed it.

(The reference to World War Z is a nice touch)...


7 posted on 07/22/2010 7:09:51 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 544 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: MestaMachine
Yep.

Take a course in Corrective Phrenology. Works wonders for those afflicted with your MENSA syndrome. While at first the effects may seem palliative, repeated courses of treatment invariably yield acceptable results.

8 posted on 07/22/2010 7:11:14 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (III, Alarm and Muster)
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To: MestaMachine

We are repeating history from 70 - 80 years ago. Unfortunatelu, there are always some that want to be the “master race”, and also there are enough useful idiots that help them along. We are fast approaching one of your listed results, or both.


9 posted on 07/22/2010 7:13:00 AM PDT by 05 Mustang GT Rocks
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To: Dead Corpse
I'm curious as to what pummel tool you would recommend for this corrective treatment?
10 posted on 07/22/2010 7:14:14 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Mormons, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when deceived.)
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To: Dead Corpse

I don’t know that a wood shampoo would help the condition to any measurable degree.

It would be rather *satisfying* though...


11 posted on 07/22/2010 7:14:49 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 544 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Dead Corpse

BTW, love the redundancy in your screen name. It takes brilliance to do that sort of thing, don’tchaknow.


12 posted on 07/22/2010 7:15:10 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Mormons, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when deceived.)
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To: MestaMachine

We are Borg

We are Mensa

Same?
Happening now?
Hmmmm....


13 posted on 07/22/2010 7:17:43 AM PDT by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Department of Life, Department of Liberty, Department of Happiness)
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To: MHGinTN
SmileyCentral.com
14 posted on 07/22/2010 7:17:49 AM PDT by verity (Obama, the BS and rhetoric President)
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To: MestaMachine
You need some time on my quiet porch. ... BTW, we're not tipping into chaos, we're being herded into it via the wide road, toward the broad gate wherein lies destruction.

And still no citizens are building the necessary guillotines ...

15 posted on 07/22/2010 7:18:13 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Mormons, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN
24 ounce precision impact tool. NASA used to buy them for around $500 per unit.

You should be able to pick one up for relatively cheap.

16 posted on 07/22/2010 7:20:08 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (III, Alarm and Muster)
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To: Earthdweller

Maybe this is actually the problem after all. They have never figured out what causes Asperger’s. I don’t know if you were trying to be witty or not, but think about it. Once you believe that you are superior to everyone and everything, the first thing to go is empathy.
The idea that the woman on the Journolist thread could give such a degenerate, cold-blooded description of another human being in agony and celebrate it is enough to chill the blood.
Think about it.


17 posted on 07/22/2010 7:22:08 AM PDT by MestaMachine (De inimico non loquaris sed cogites- Don't wish ill for your enemy; plan it)
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To: MestaMachine
Well, smart people quit Mensa very quickly when they realize paying a substantial annual fee gets them virtually nothing but the chance to stand around at informal gatherings with a lot of underemployed whiners who constantly complain that the world refuses to recognize their brilliance. :)

Mr. Jeeves - Former Mensa member (25 years ago..)

18 posted on 07/22/2010 7:23:36 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ( "The right to offend is far more important than any right not to be offended." - Rowan Atkinson)
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To: Dead Corpse
An alternative therapy is high doses of copper encapsulated lead via high velocity inter-cranial injection.
19 posted on 07/22/2010 7:23:57 AM PDT by Durus (The People have abdicated our duties and anxiously hopes for just two things, "Bread and Circuses")
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To: MHGinTN
It's only redundant due to grammatical shift. The original Latin corp-, corpor-, corpus- meant "body" and carried no connotation of said body being alive. It could be a "body of literary work", the "body politic", etc...

I've been using variations of the moniker since the early '90's on various BBS systems, list-servs, Usenet, etc...

20 posted on 07/22/2010 7:24:41 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (III, Alarm and Muster)
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To: MestaMachine

The other day a freeper pointed out that if we were to abolish federal involvement in education, and let it be handled on a more local level, the quality of education would improve dramatically and from that generation on, we would begin to regain our strength.


21 posted on 07/22/2010 7:25:30 AM PDT by Do Be (The heart is smarter than the head.)
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To: MestaMachine

Any kid with common sense and an iota of curiosity will look at stats re: academic success vs. “real world” success. A stubborn kid will persevere under any circumstances. A curious kid will learn that the “C” students are the ones who have been historically successful in business. A kid w/o hardwiring problems will try to follow a path that will leave the world a better place. An observant kid will notice that the people who profess to know it all are surrounded with chaos and leave a trail of disaster wherever they go.
Don’t underestimate the kids.


22 posted on 07/22/2010 7:26:21 AM PDT by Silentgypsy (Employing freedom of speech/expression in order to condemn freedom of speech/expression¬ógo figure..)
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To: MestaMachine

This condition is easily treatable with:

Dontnoital (psychonutbgon HCl)


23 posted on 07/22/2010 7:27:12 AM PDT by nhoward14 (I'm starting The 595 Club... A discount from 700)
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To: MestaMachine
Oh..I've thought about it. I come from a long line of "University inhabitants".. better known as University faculty and staff.

Aspergers is so prevalent on the campuses that it's redundant to even talk about it.

Have you ever visited an Aspergers forum? Real eye opener...they literally think that they do not belong with the rest of earthlings and earth would be better off without "normal" people.

24 posted on 07/22/2010 7:28:05 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......?)
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To: Mere Survival
Jesus Christ is the answer

I too believe that following the teachings of Jesus would vastly improve any endeavor, but I find your answer moronic. I don't think you read the question.

25 posted on 07/22/2010 7:29:40 AM PDT by Do Be (The heart is smarter than the head.)
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To: MestaMachine
Allow me to paraphrase:
"You think you're so smart that the first thing that flies into your head is the final answer to any problem."
I've met people like that. In defense of MENSA I must say most of them would probably not qualify.
How easy things would be if Smart equaled Right.
I suspect it might be related to the Hollywood Syndrome where they believe Famous equals Important.

26 posted on 07/22/2010 7:29:40 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: MHGinTN

Make me some sweet potato pie and tell me when it’s coming out of the oven. Oh, wow. Now my mouth is watering....
See what you made me do? I am drooling on my keyboard.
Hugs to you, MHG. Missed ya.


27 posted on 07/22/2010 7:30:08 AM PDT by MestaMachine (De inimico non loquaris sed cogites- Don't wish ill for your enemy; plan it)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Well, smart people quit Mensa very quickly when they realize paying a substantial annual fee gets them virtually nothing but the chance to stand around at informal gatherings with a lot of underemployed whiners who constantly complain that the world refuses to recognize their brilliance. :)

Nailed it. One loser seriously contended the world needed to put MENSA in charge and then get out of the way. He absolutely refused to understand that he and I, both MENSA members, were utterly opposed, not just on tactics, but even more on the goals. He didn't think this made a difference!

Intelligence, in the sense of raw IQ, is greatly over-rated.

28 posted on 07/22/2010 7:31:01 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Dead Corpse
Take a course in Corrective Phrenology. Works wonders for those afflicted with your MENSA syndrome. While at first the effects may seem palliative, repeated courses of treatment invariably yield acceptable results.

LOL. Good one.

29 posted on 07/22/2010 7:33:00 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: Do Be

Christ is the answer to the problem of sin. Christ is the only full and complete answer. Every other “solution” is fiddling at the margins with no personal solution and no solution for those around you that you affect.


30 posted on 07/22/2010 7:34:26 AM PDT by Mere Survival (The time to fight was yesterday but now will have to do.)
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To: Dead Corpse

Actually, I think I have four or five, in varying sizes, already! I’ll get to work on the drafting board to design an angle of application technique ...


31 posted on 07/22/2010 7:35:28 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Mormons, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when deceived.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves; All

Got to read my definition to inderstand the topic.

M E N S A
*Massive Extreme Neural Synapses Abuse*

This causes repeated instances of *Massive Extreme Neural Synapses Abuse* by those seeking to act on this unprovable, even dangerous, doctrine. Those who become infected create disonnance in their thinking patterns by becoming so overconfidant in their own abilities that they rationalize virtually everything they THINK to conform with what they BELIEVE and they can never once accept they might be wrong about anything, ever. Even the mere suggestion of fallibility to an infected person often results in outbursts of uncontrolled verbal rage and quite possibly, violence.
Prolonged exposure of the mind to this bombardment of illogical thought processes results in brain’s inability to distinguish rational from irrational, reality from fantasy, truth from lies.


32 posted on 07/22/2010 7:39:01 AM PDT by MestaMachine (De inimico non loquaris sed cogites- Don't wish ill for your enemy; plan it)
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To: MestaMachine
"If no one ever believes they are wrong, how will anyone know what is right?"

CS Lewis addressed this quite effectively in his discussions of Moral Law in Mere Christianity (and in numerous other writings). People for the most part have an inherent code of right and wrong based on universal moral absolutes. Some people spend time contemplating these and trying to abide by them, and others are immersed in systems that try to downplay, ridicule and ignore those that believe in such things...but in spite of their efforts, they simply don't go away.

Human fashions and trends are very fickle things, and even though right now, it is in vogue to defy and spit in the face of people who believe in moral absolutes, those principles will by far, outlive this passing phase and its adherents.

Atheist will typically tell you they feel uncomfortable when they lie, and nobody admires or esteems cowardice over valor. They may try to represent cowardice as valor, but they are not contesting the value of courage itself. Now, those not studied in, or at least having given some thought to such things generally can't explain why they feel some things are naturally right or wrong, only that they "feel" or "know" that they are. Some things are immutable and inalienable regardless of human efforts to downplay them or represent them otherwise.

Having said all of that, I'm not trying to minimize the damage these people might do, and the indoctrination they are trying to impose on society at large...the road to rediscovering and re-embracing Natural law could be a very difficult and painful one, indeed.

33 posted on 07/22/2010 7:40:13 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: MestaMachine
Erroneous belief that one is somehow more superior to all others [...]

You mean they consider themselves to be not merely superior, but rather more superior to everyone else?

Regards,

34 posted on 07/22/2010 7:40:20 AM PDT by alexander_busek
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To: MestaMachine
Oh boy, now you've done it! I haven't baked a sweet potato pie in quite a while. My biggest problem is, I have to eat the whole thing because my two old cats don't eat pies.

Last two custards were pumpkin. Now I'll have to find some sweet poatatoes and get to work!

Apple pies are my letely summer fair around here, but a sweet potatoe cobbler would hit the spot ... served with a pot of nice English tea on the porch in the late evening ... yes, I'm getting the picture now ... off to shop. [Men can bake too, ya know!] BBL

35 posted on 07/22/2010 7:40:53 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Mormons, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when deceived.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

A lot of people remain in Mensa, thankful that insufferable snobs like Mr. Jeeves have left. On a side note, I wish you had named your syndrome Degenerative Extreme Neural Synapses Abuse (DENSA) to avoid unintentionally maligning a group of pretty decent folks who belong to Mensa.


36 posted on 07/22/2010 7:46:04 AM PDT by Hootowl
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To: alexander_busek

Even to each other. That is the ultimate result of this kind of thinking. i.e. “My genius is bigger than your genius.”
To put it another way, nobody is wrong if everybody is right...an unsolvable paradox that ultimately leads to war and mass insanity on a level we can’t even begin to comprehend. Insanity in the purist form.


37 posted on 07/22/2010 7:52:26 AM PDT by MestaMachine (De inimico non loquaris sed cogites- Don't wish ill for your enemy; plan it)
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To: Sherman Logan
Intelligence, in the sense of raw IQ, is greatly over-rated.

It's off the charts!

38 posted on 07/22/2010 7:57:57 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: Hootowl

You are right, of course. No foul intended. As I stated earlier, this started out as a joke. There are a lot of extremely smart people who are not in this catagory, but there ARE far too many people who, rightly or wrongly, fall prey to the mythology that IQ is the measure of a man. These people often splatter the stage with the blood of those deemed inferior, (by themselves,) with little or no knowledge OR wisdom to back it up. These people often lack conscience as well.


39 posted on 07/22/2010 8:06:20 AM PDT by MestaMachine (De inimico non loquaris sed cogites- Don't wish ill for your enemy; plan it)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Well, smart people quit Mensa very quickly when they realize paying a substantial annual fee gets them virtually nothing but the chance to stand around at informal gatherings with a lot of underemployed whiners who constantly complain that the world refuses to recognize their brilliance

Well, that answers my question about whether any actual smart people are in MENSA. The only MENSAs I ever met made a really, really, really big deal about how they were in MENSA, and yet they didn't seem all that smart to me. It struck me that it was very important to these people that they were in MENSA because it "proved" to the world (and themselves) how smart they were, and it seemed to me that these people were actually somewhat pathetic. Thus, I wondered if MENSA was actually made up entirely of pathetic people who were not actually very bright.

In my own experience, really smart people have no need whatsoever to prove to anyone else how smart they are. The world either recognizes that fact or not, and they don't particularly care one way or the other. If they happen to meet another very smart person, then they may have found a new friend. Everyone else falls into one of two categories: teachable and non-teachable. Teachable people are deserving of their attention; non-teachable ones are not.

Since I always wondered why any really smart person would need to join an organization to prove they were smart, I've also always wondered if any actual smart people were in MENSA. Now I know. Thanks for the insiders point of view, namely that MENSA is in fact a good discriminator for intelligence: any intelligent person who joins MESA thinking it is an organization of intelligent people quickly discovers otherwise and quits, leaving only not-so-intelligent people as members. In fact, MENSA perfectly selects for those who remain members: not-so-bright and unaccomplished people who desperately wish the world would see them otherwise.

40 posted on 07/22/2010 8:09:17 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Made from the Right Stuff!)
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To: MestaMachine
I think the syndrome you describe is an element of the thesis presented by Friedrich Hayek in The Fatal Conceit.
41 posted on 07/22/2010 8:12:22 AM PDT by Erasmus (Personal goal: Have a bigger carbon footprint than Tony Robbins.)
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To: alexander_busek

I consider obama to be in this catagory. He THINKS he is a genius because everyone keeps SAYING he is. He believes it right down to the bottoms of his grungy feet. AND he is a danger to the rntire world.


42 posted on 07/22/2010 8:12:38 AM PDT by MestaMachine (De inimico non loquaris sed cogites- Don't wish ill for your enemy; plan it)
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To: Erasmus

“He labels as the ‘fatal conceit’ the idea that ‘man is able to shape the world around him according to his wishes.’”

Yes, an element. Now imagine millions or even billions of people with this same attitude and you have the paradox inherant in this belief. And that is what we are seeing evolve.


43 posted on 07/22/2010 8:20:40 AM PDT by MestaMachine (De inimico non loquaris sed cogites- Don't wish ill for your enemy; plan it)
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To: Mere Survival
Christ is the answer to the problem of sin.

Have you ever read the new testament? Which particular part of Christ's teaching do you best think applies to the discussion at hand.

44 posted on 07/22/2010 8:45:33 AM PDT by Do Be (The heart is smarter than the head.)
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To: Dead Corpse
Take a course in Corrective Phrenology.

Known in some environs as Cranial Rolfing.

45 posted on 07/22/2010 8:52:54 AM PDT by Erasmus (Personal goal: Have a bigger carbon footprint than Tony Robbins.)
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To: Do Be
The more you realize that children are today, right now, being taught that nothing they think or do is ever REALLY wrong or bad or sinful, the more this makes me shudder. Our kids are being prevented from thinking independently. They are being "protected" from our morals and values and being told that what WE think, say, or value is wrong. "Me" counts and ONLY ME counts in this world.

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Sin is death; Christ is life.

They are being taught lies are facts and lies become their truths. They think they are creating a society of conformists wherein everyone is "equal" and that they are ALL little geniuses in their own right. But is that what the real result of this will be?

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Christ said: I am the way, the truth and the life, he who believes in me will never die.

I don't think so. If no one ever believes they are wrong, how will anyone know what is right? If everyone is the "same," how will those who think differently finally express their differences when they see them? Worse, how will those differences manifest themselves and how will those who are different be treated?

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2 Corinthian's 6

Paul's Hardships

3We put no stumbling block in anyone's path, so that our ministry will not be discredited. 4Rather, as servants of God we commend ourselves in every way: in great endurance; in troubles, hardships and distresses; 5in beatings, imprisonments and riots; in hard work, sleepless nights and hunger; 6in purity, understanding, patience and kindness; in the Holy Spirit and in sincere love; 7in truthful speech and in the power of God; with weapons of righteousness in the right hand and in the left; 8through glory and dishonor, bad report and good report; genuine, yet regarded as impostors; 9known, yet regarded as unknown; dying, and yet we live on; beaten, and yet not killed; 10sorrowful, yet always rejoicing; poor, yet making many rich; having nothing, and yet possessing everything.

46 posted on 07/22/2010 8:55:10 AM PDT by Mere Survival (The time to fight was yesterday but now will have to do.)
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To: BitWielder1; MestaMachine

One of the liabilites of raw mental power is the likelihood of its effective use in the process of self-deception.

And when a clever, bright, well-spoken, charismatic person with sufficiently poor opinion of self and of humanity has succeeded in fooling himself, he’s well on the way to fooling millions; with the customary dire result for mankind.


47 posted on 07/22/2010 9:01:56 AM PDT by Erasmus (Personal goal: Have a bigger carbon footprint than Tony Robbins.)
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To: Erasmus

Wow. Well said. I think the same but don’t think I’ve articulated it as effectively.


48 posted on 07/22/2010 9:14:41 AM PDT by Mere Survival (The time to fight was yesterday but now will have to do.)
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To: Mere Survival

I am Jewish so perhaps my perception is a tad off, but it seems to me that Jesus wanted the children to be protected at all costs. YOU seem to be saying to “leave them alone and they’ll come home wagging their tails behind them.”
Am I wrong?


49 posted on 07/22/2010 9:15:16 AM PDT by MestaMachine (De inimico non loquaris sed cogites- Don't wish ill for your enemy; plan it)
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To: MestaMachine

The children protected “at all costs” is wrong; God is always at the forefront, even when it comes to the things you hold dearest such as your own life, wealth, family and the like. Does a soldier stay home, safe with his family when he is called to war? Would he be right to do so? Your second sentence with wagging tails and all that is interesting; I don’t know where you get the idea that Christ calls us to inaction. It is the opposite.


50 posted on 07/22/2010 9:20:57 AM PDT by Mere Survival (The time to fight was yesterday but now will have to do.)
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