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Illegal alien charged with killing nun was being assisted by Catholic Charities...press ignores
examiner.com ^ | Aug 20 2010 | Dave Gibson

Posted on 08/20/2010 4:02:22 PM PDT by NoLibZone

The illegal alien, Carlos A. Martinelly Montano, who slammed into a car carrying three Benedictine nuns, killing one of them, was being legally represented throughout his deportation process by Catholic Charities.

The wreck which occurred on the morning of August 1, took the life of Sister Denise Mosier, and left Sisters Charlotte Lang and Connie Ruth Lupton with serious injuries, marked Montano’s third DUI arrest in Prince William County, Va. over the last five years. At the time of the crash, the illegal alien was free on bond while awaiting deportation proceedings.

Montano was actually being defended by Hogar Immigrant Services, a division of Catholic Charities in the Arlington Diocese.

According to Catholic Charities, a deportation hearing was scheduled next week for Montano, but has been put on hold due to the involuntary manslaughter charge.

Given the Catholic Church’s unabashed support of illegal aliens, and their constant political lobbying for amnesty, it is more than a disgusting twist of irony that one of the criminals they were protecting has now taken the life of one of their own nuns.

While this facet to the sad case may seem particularly noteworthy, the mainstream press is simply ignoring it. Of course, they are pushing the same political agenda as the Church.


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KEYWORDS: arizona; catholic; catholicchurch; catholicismsucks; illegals; immigrationreform; romancatholic

1 posted on 08/20/2010 4:02:24 PM PDT by NoLibZone
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To: NoLibZone

Catholic Church , and any other church should lose tax-exempt status over pro-illegal alien lobbying efforts.


2 posted on 08/20/2010 4:03:57 PM PDT by NoLibZone (I am currently under federal investigation by the DNC for my opposition to the Ground Zero mosque.)
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To: NoLibZone; smvoice

What part of ‘illegal’ doesn’t the Catholic Church get? What part of the Constitution don’t they get?


3 posted on 08/20/2010 4:06:20 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: NoLibZone

Which explains why Church members immediately came out defending the illegal.

Good Lord.


4 posted on 08/20/2010 4:08:17 PM PDT by Carley (For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: presently no screen name

What part of ‘illegal’ doesn’t the Catholic Church get?

Nun


5 posted on 08/20/2010 4:11:48 PM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: forgotten man

LOL!! A good one. The truth no matter how you spell it.


6 posted on 08/20/2010 4:14:18 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

Defending the indefensible is going to come back and bite HARD at some point.


7 posted on 08/20/2010 4:16:17 PM PDT by smvoice (smvoice- formally known as small voice in the wilderness. Easier on the typing!)
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To: NoLibZone

Agreed. Notre Dasme and other supposed Catholic schools support the Imam and partial birth abortion.

Notre Dame should have a half time show where they sacrifice babies. As long as the team is up by 7 points - the alumni will cheer.


8 posted on 08/20/2010 4:19:20 PM PDT by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: Frantzie
As long as the team is up by 7 points the alumni will cheer.

And the opposing team goes to jail.
9 posted on 08/20/2010 4:23:19 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

I hope there is no Hispanic Pope in the near future.

Communist infiltrated education lasts a long time.


10 posted on 08/20/2010 4:56:40 PM PDT by Surrounded_too (Robot machine guns and the Dirty Dozen)
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To: NoLibZone

if the church will turn their back on a nun in favor of an illegal alien, the church should lose their existence.


11 posted on 08/20/2010 4:57:07 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: NoLibZone
Exactly the mindless comments I expected on this thread.

(1) Our Constitution guarantees everyone - not just law-abiding citizens - due process.

(2) It is an act of Christian charity to help not just well-scrubbed Anglophones but also scruffy Mexican criminals. Mercy is extended to all in Christ's name.

(3) Providing legal assistance to indigent criminals is something churches do and, to anyone familiar with the Constitution or federal law, it has no bearing on exempt status.

(4) Perhaps the sisters who lost their sister during this horrific crime have decided to forgive the criminal responsible. That also has something to do with the creed they profess.

12 posted on 08/20/2010 5:17:56 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

(1) Our Constitution guarantees everyone - not just law-abiding citizens - due process.

The title of your question could be the title of a law school course. It’s a great question and it would make for a great class, book or law review article. But to answer your specific question, the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. Sections 1101 et seq.) permits the detention of persons unlawfully in the U.S. pending a decision on whether they may remain or must be deported, but it does not specify how long they may be held in custody. Regulations indicate that a detained person should be served with a Notice to Appear within a few days of being taken into custody, but this doesn’t always happen. As soon as someone is taken into immigration custody, someone (for example an immigration attorney) can request a bond hearing with an immigration judge for the detainee. The availability of such hearings varies based on the local court procedures. If the process.is taking too long then the person should speak with the immigration court administrator.

If the detainee is ordered removed from the U.S., the Immigration and Customs Enforcement is supposed to review his or her custody status 90 days after the order. If removal is not imminent at that point, then ICE should consider whether the detainee should be released on an order of supervision. The factors it will consider include the likelihood of imminent removal, whether the person is cooperating with the removal process, whether the person is a danger to him or herself or the community, and whether the detainee is a flight risk. If the detainee is held for more than 180 days post-removal order, the Supreme Court held in a case called Zadvydas that the continued detention is presumptively unconstitutional and the detainee can seek release in federal court in a habeas corpus proceeding.

Scott D. Pollock
Scott D. Pollock & Associates, P.C.

http://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/what-is-the-true-definition-of—due-process—for-i-224873.html


13 posted on 08/20/2010 5:45:40 PM PDT by NoLibZone (I am currently under federal investigation by the DNC for my opposition to the Ground Zero mosque.)
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To: wideawake

You believe that the you religious actions be forced upon non believers.

It is exactly what Thomas Jefferson warned us about.


14 posted on 08/20/2010 5:47:48 PM PDT by NoLibZone (I am currently under federal investigation by the DNC for my opposition to the Ground Zero mosque.)
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To: NoLibZone
Let's pretend that the post I am replying to was in English.

No "religious action" was forced upon non-believers. Your statement is completely incoherent logically as well as grammatically.

And your citation of Jefferson is particularly inapt, given his analysis of the Alien and Sedition Acts.

15 posted on 08/20/2010 6:01:19 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: NoLibZone

Mr. Pollock’s tone seems to indicate that he believes our immigration laws do not provide full due process. However, the process he describes is indeed due process - he apparently thinks our laws do not meet the Constitutional standard. I would disagree and say that our laws err on the side of leniency.


16 posted on 08/20/2010 6:04:29 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

“Exactly the mindless comments I expected on this thread.”

What you have been taught as love for your fellow man, is shinning through in each post you make.

You make Jefferson’s point very well.


17 posted on 08/20/2010 8:19:10 PM PDT by NoLibZone (I am currently under federal investigation by the DNC for my opposition to the Ground Zero mosque.)
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To: wideawake
No "religious action" was forced upon non-believers. Your statement is completely incoherent logically as well as grammatically.

The death of those at the hands of illegals is the ultimate participation of your religious actions.

18 posted on 08/20/2010 8:23:39 PM PDT by NoLibZone (I am currently under federal investigation by the DNC for my opposition to the Ground Zero mosque.)
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To: wideawake

“Your statement is completely incoherent logically as well as grammatically.”

In other words, you feel you are superior.

Are you a Christian?

I see zero evidence of it on this thread.


19 posted on 08/20/2010 8:25:12 PM PDT by NoLibZone (I am currently under federal investigation by the DNC for my opposition to the Ground Zero mosque.)
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To: wideawake

Add this to your hate filled personal FR home page:

You are pure hatred.

You’re an example of why the Catholic Church is struggling.

Posting hatred here will not absolve you of your Nancy Pelosi like Christianity in an attempt for salvation.


21 posted on 08/20/2010 8:52:31 PM PDT by NoLibZone (I am currently under federal investigation by the DNC for my opposition to the Ground Zero mosque.)
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To: NoLibZone
That was an amusing string of empty posts.

Let's stipulate for argument's sake that I am the worst person who ever lived.

Now that you feel better, it still doesn't make your argument hold any water: the criminal is responsible for his own actions - if he takes advantage of the kindness shown to him in order to hurt others, that's entirely his own fault.

Would you blame a surgeon, who saved the life of a man who later became a murderer, for the death of his patient's victim?

Examine your premises.

22 posted on 08/20/2010 9:19:57 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake
An example of the love of Christ as wideawake sees it.

Mockery and hate is why your church is struggling.


23 posted on 08/20/2010 9:30:14 PM PDT by NoLibZone (I am currently under federal investigation by the DNC for my opposition to the Ground Zero mosque.)
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To: NoLibZone
That's a very elaborate way of admitting that your reasoning on this thread can't stand up to a second's analysis.

You realize that you are effectively arguing that this nun's death is her own fault because of the kindness her order showed toward illegal aliens, right? You're blaming the victim for her own death.

24 posted on 08/20/2010 9:37:05 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

Any reply will only illicit more demon guided replies from you.

Your home page shows all what you are.


25 posted on 08/20/2010 9:49:26 PM PDT by NoLibZone (I am currently under federal investigation by the DNC for my opposition to the Ground Zero mosque.)
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To: NoLibZone
You truly will go to any length to avoid admitting that you were wrong.

Oh, and it's "elicit" - "illicit" means something completely different.

26 posted on 08/20/2010 9:55:49 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

There’s no edit function here.

The power of satan ( I bet you’d capitalize the name ) compels you to mock others.

Your home page shows me what you are about.


27 posted on 08/20/2010 11:05:01 PM PDT by NoLibZone (I am currently under federal investigation by the DNC for my opposition to the Ground Zero mosque.)
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To: NoLibZone
Dude, put the bong down and step away from the keyboard. Disagreeing with wideawake is perfectly fine, but you've devolved into throwing brickbats. Back off the name calling and rhetoric and you'll make your point more effectively.

P.S. The one who is yelling the loudest is the one losing the argument. You , sir are screaming.

CC

28 posted on 08/21/2010 4:44:52 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (ostende mihi pecuniam!)
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To: Celtic Conservative

As a firearms instructor, does the term “Situational Awareness “ mean anything to you?

My last post was at 11:05:01 PM.

You post on the following day at 4:44:52 AM.


29 posted on 08/21/2010 1:32:04 PM PDT by NoLibZone (I am currently under federal investigation by the DNC for my opposition to the Ground Zero mosque.)
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To: NoLibZone
As a human being who understands English, does "I work nights" mean anything to you?

My momma told me "if you don't have anything nice to say to someone, don't say anything." so to you I say,

CC

30 posted on 08/22/2010 4:13:11 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (ostende mihi pecuniam!)
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To: Celtic Conservative
"My momma told me "if you don't have anything nice to say to someone, don't say anything." so to you I say, "

Your first post to me violated your moms teachings.

31 posted on 08/22/2010 12:47:10 PM PDT by NoLibZone (I am currently under federal investigation by the DNC for my opposition to the Ground Zero mosque.)
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To: NoLibZone
Have a nice day.

CC

32 posted on 08/22/2010 5:58:50 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (ostende mihi pecuniam!)
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