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To: PugetSoundSoldier
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While Apple may not be a panacea, it 'IS' regulated. And while I was not quick enough to get the 'Flashlight' App, the fact that it was found and removed is evident that there is a screen in place. The 'wireless router' was an 'easter egg'. While I may disagree with this; there is an implied safety in this approach.

And yes, if there is a desire to open the 'walled garden'; there will be a means. The latest Bootrom hack is pretty much hardware based - any iPad/iPhone or iPod currently on the market is vulnerable. You must connect to the PC to do this, as this hack hit's the low level boot firmware on the iPhone. The only way for Apple to fix this is to re-program the low-level boot layer. Personally, my intention is to jailbreak my iPhone so I can use MiFi.

My belief, my ethics allows me to use MY property in any manner I see fit. Recently, the courts sided with my approach. I'm paying for a 2GB/month dataplan, I own my iPHone and I own an iPad. If I want to tether the two together - I see no reason AT&T should extort an additional $20 from me to do so. Same data rate, same data quantity per month - just a larger display.

The difference, as I see it is that MSFT and a PC are implied program running machines. My phone is a communications device with cute little gadgets. I don't mind paying for anti-virus, trojan or malware protection for my PC - that goes with the ability to run any program.

However, when it comes to my cell phone - my perception is different. I don't want my phone calls monitored, my location spied upon, my text messages relayed to an unseen destination, and expecially any secure financial tranactions shared. So, because the cell phone is such a 'personal' device, I prefer the iPhone's approach.

Now, when I jailbreak do I intend to run 'pirated' software? Nope, in fact I will most certainly NOT do that. Why? Because, IMHO the applications I purchase through iTunes are both reasonably priced and because Apple has screened them.

However, I fully intend to utilize MiFi, because I cannot get this functinoality without paying what I feel to be extortion to AT&T. This, IMHO, is like paying a premium to use the Speakerphone on your cell phone. Same phone call, same phone time - but now multiple listeners can participate in a conversation.

23 posted on 09/10/2010 11:49:42 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Hodar
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App Store malware. And another, from just a few months ago.

While Apple may not be a panacea, it 'IS' regulated.

As is Google's Market; even your own source says they yank about 1% because of malware issues.

And while I was not quick enough to get the 'Flashlight' App, the fact that it was found and removed is evident that there is a screen in place.

Nope. It only got yanked by Apple after sites like the one I link above started advertising the nature of the app. Apple's screening simply didn't catch it - at all. If people kept their mouth shut, it would still be there.

The latest Bootrom hack is pretty much hardware based - any iPad/iPhone or iPod currently on the market is vulnerable. You must connect to the PC to do this, as this hack hit's the low level boot firmware on the iPhone.

The current one, maybe. The last one was purely software/web based. That's a security hole. And the reason these breaks occur so fast is that the breakers have a big list of holes they're working down, and adding to as new versions of the OS are released.

It may make you feel more secure, but actual, real-world results show that it is NOT more secure, nor is it more protective than other options.

My belief, my ethics allows me to use MY property in any manner I see fit. Recently, the courts sided with my approach

I fully agree! Too bad Apple refused that until a court ruled, and too bad you had to trust a court WOULD rule your way. Wouldn't it be nice if Apple simply said "it's your device, it's other owner's devices, do with them as you will"?

The difference, as I see it is that MSFT and a PC are implied program running machines. My phone is a communications device with cute little gadgets.

Huh? Gadgets ARE programs. Your phone is RUNNING PROGRAMS. They have a cutesy name of "apps", but that's short for applications - programs. A smartphone IS a computer. In fact, my HTC Touch Pro2 can do pretty much everything a mid-late 90s PC could do. It IS a computer. That's the point that everyone is trying to exploit - you can now blend your computing devices into a variety of interfaces to the same applications and cloud of data.

Because, IMHO the applications I purchase through iTunes are both reasonably priced and because Apple has screened them.

Sure, but that screening - as we see documented above - is not exhaustive or complete.

Fundamentally, we see the real-world results of the Apple approach - it's no more secure than the Android approach. The real-world breaks and hacks show that to be the case.

27 posted on 09/10/2010 7:29:21 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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