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Boehner to the rich: donít blame me. If you like your money, stop funding the Democrats!
Big Bureaucracy ^ | September 13th, 2010 | Ellie Velinska

Posted on 09/13/2010 7:59:14 AM PDT by Big Bureaucracy

Here comes the Boehner’s genius: rich democrats talk class warfare only because they believe the Republicans are there to protect their success. If the Republicans give up and let the radical left President run wild without a check – all those rich democrats will have to walk the walk to IRS, not only talk the talk.

House Republicans Leader (and soon to be Speaker) John Boehner called President Obama’s bluff and stated he will vote for extending only part of the Bush tax-cuts if the Democrats have no will to give tax-cuts for the wealthy.

That sent shock-waves through the ranks of the rich elite that give their contributions to Democrats, but hope that the Republicans will watch for their wallets and protect them from tax-hikes.

The Hollywood crowd earning over 250K suddenly realized their favorite president of all time will cost them dearly next year when their personal income tax starts hiking the up-hill.

Liberal celebrities and philanthropists that readily did class warfare propaganda for the Democrats were suddenly terrified when they realized Obama actually hates the rich – not just talking about it.

Wealthy democratic campaign contributors realized they subsidized the very beast that is after their wealth and success... The only way for democrats to extend the Bush tax-cuts for all Americans is to help those rich funding the Democratic party understand that if they keep funding socialists their wealth will be socialized in the IRS accounts.

John Boehner often says: Elections have consequences. If the business community keeps funding the anti-business political party, they shouldn’t be surprised that we get anti-business President, who is enforcing anti-business policies.

It is time for the wealthy to get tax-punished by President Obama and his radical friends, so they never ever give a dime to the Democratic Party ever again.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: 2010election; 2010midterms; bho44; bhoeconomy; boehner; bushtaxcuts; congress; democrats; economy; elections; hopeychangey; liberals; lping; mublog; obama; obamavoters; progressives; redistribution; socialism; spreadthewealth; stealthewealth; taxcuts; taxes; taxincreases; wealthy
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1 posted on 09/13/2010 7:59:17 AM PDT by Big Bureaucracy
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To: Big Bureaucracy

I give Boehner two points for that one. So many richies donated to, and voted for, Obama, and now they whine. Idiots.


2 posted on 09/13/2010 8:03:00 AM PDT by HerrBlucher (In the White House the mighty White House the Liar sleeps tonight.............)
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To: Big Bureaucracy

Dems: stuck on stooooopid!


3 posted on 09/13/2010 8:05:51 AM PDT by pingman (Price is what you pay, value is what you get.)
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To: HerrBlucher

Plus, he has taken away a much hoped for Democrat talking Point.


4 posted on 09/13/2010 8:06:35 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: Big Bureaucracy

Nice! Rich liberals are like Europe, happy to allow American conservatives to protect them while whining about Big Business and Green hoaxes aimed at America. It’s time they paid for their opinions like us proles.


5 posted on 09/13/2010 8:07:11 AM PDT by moodyskeptic (the counterculture votes R)
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To: HerrBlucher

Did you notice how the democrats attack Boehner for calling Obama’s bluff.
If the republicans vote what Obama wants - all the rich democratic campaign contributors will go nuts. They fund the Democrats and pretend they are the good guys while they hope the bad guys (the republicans) will protect their wealth.


6 posted on 09/13/2010 8:08:05 AM PDT by Big Bureaucracy
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To: Big Bureaucracy

Bingo. They want wealth, and a clear liberal concience. They are hypocrites, vipers, and not very nice.


7 posted on 09/13/2010 8:11:05 AM PDT by HerrBlucher (In the White House the mighty White House the Liar sleeps tonight.............)
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To: Big Bureaucracy
Don't forget the point that Rush has made over and over again. The taxes keep upward mobility down. If you are already rich, the taxes keep others from getting rich only.

Now you could talk about the theoretical tax that Obama's crowd floated not long ago to tax net worth every year to the tune of about 2%. That would leave a mark.

8 posted on 09/13/2010 8:14:17 AM PDT by Thebaddog (Shakey Jake said, " The hippies will never survive!")
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To: Big Bureaucracy

BUT BOEHNER SMOKES CIGARETTES!!!!!!!!!!!


9 posted on 09/13/2010 8:14:38 AM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: HerrBlucher
I drove through the Hamptons this past thursday.....all these rich buttwipes had liberal political yard signs and all their hired help were what appeared to be illegal aliens....

Boehner is right....the limosene liberals fund their own destruction.

just like the rich landowners in Cuba who supported Castro in the late 50’s then were SHOCKED, SHOCKED to find that they lost everything.

brain dead.

10 posted on 09/13/2010 8:15:46 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Big Bureaucracy

Obvious that the rich support both parties, so they can claim leverage, lobbyist need to be ousted and not allowed in the halls of Congress or bribing the legislators for their votes.

There is much out of whack in Washington and it has been happening bit by bit for years. Now it is big enough to KILL America and all it has stood for under the UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION.

We still have the Constitution, let us pick it up off the floor where all are walking on it and put them out of office, in jail, or impeached.


11 posted on 09/13/2010 8:17:48 AM PDT by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: Vaquero

If the Republicans let Obama tax-hike the rich - this will be the end of the Democratic party - there will be very few loons who will continue to fund them.
The Republicans take the power in 2012 and do real tax-reform - fair tax, or flat tax, or something real, not patch works here and there.


12 posted on 09/13/2010 8:19:25 AM PDT by Big Bureaucracy
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To: Thebaddog

Would that mean if your net worth is negative, they send you a check?


13 posted on 09/13/2010 8:19:25 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: I am Richard Brandon

Yep!

Lemons. Lemonade.


14 posted on 09/13/2010 8:19:45 AM PDT by fightinJAG (Step away from the toilet. Let the housing market flush.)
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To: Big Bureaucracy
I've posted this before, but will repeat for posterity:

I watch a lot of business shows. A year ago the MSM, lib talking heads, all the Obamabots and Rat pundits were falling all over themselves to disparage the Tea Party movement as, not only racist, etc., but INEFFECTIVE and POWERLESS.

As this year has proven that wrong, and as this year also has made it demonstrably clear that we have an economic madman (actually, a driven purely ideological ANTICOLONIALIST) in the White House, I cannot flip on any show where there is not some huge CEO, economist, analyst, pundit referencing the general hope that, in so many words, those Tea Party people really will come out to the polls in November and vote to STOP THE MADMAN.

The entire country, including, ironically, the ELITES, -- maybe even the entire global economy -- is waiting with bated breath to see if the unwashed masses -- the Wal-Mart people -- are going to rise up and save the whole darn country!

15 posted on 09/13/2010 8:28:09 AM PDT by fightinJAG (Step away from the toilet. Let the housing market flush.)
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To: Vaquero
http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2010/0927/politics-socialism-capitalism-private-enterprises-obama-business-problem.html

This happens over and over again in history.

When you vote to turn "wants" that cost money into "rights" -- thereby imposing the "duty" to pay for the fulfillment of everyone's "rights" (such as to healthcare) on the only people who have the money to pay -- the people with money have to be stripped off their wealth sooner rather than later.

Then, as Margaret Thatcher said, when you "eventually run out of other people's money," that's when the real brutality begins. It is then the only way to put down the inevitable civil unrest and force redistribution of what little resources the society still has.

It also, as Stalin pointed out and many other brutal dictators have practiced, becomes a way to reduce the number of mouths the State must feed and police. Mass murder, artificial food shortages, these are inexorable if a society goes down the road of true Socialism.

16 posted on 09/13/2010 8:35:30 AM PDT by fightinJAG (Step away from the toilet. Let the housing market flush.)
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To: Big Bureaucracy

This is a Red Herring!

The real “Rich” are not even subject to taxation under the tax code, and they are the ones funding the Dems.

The people that benefit from the Bush tax cuts are not the rich, but the upper middle class, who are responsible for at least 80% of the jobs in this country.

The MSM demonize the upper middle, and falsely call them “the wealthiest Americans,” which is nothing but marxist class warfare.


17 posted on 09/13/2010 8:40:18 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: Big Bureaucracy

Boehner is a prostitute.

A prostitute is one who does not have the moral scruples for anything but making money.

If he had an ounce of morality, he would not cave in.


18 posted on 09/13/2010 8:40:47 AM PDT by bestintxas
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To: Big Bureaucracy

I’ve decided that Boehner has made the right move here. Let the Dems screw the rich if they insist on it . . . and deal with the backlash.


19 posted on 09/13/2010 8:43:40 AM PDT by November 2010
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To: HerrBlucher

> “I give Boehner two points for that one. So many richies donated to, and voted for, Obama, and now they whine”

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Stop giving Boehner credit for anything; he is a deceiver.

The “Rich” are not whinning; they are coaxing congress to heap taxes on us, because those taxes will not even affect them; their wealth is beyond the reach of the taxes that will be raised.


20 posted on 09/13/2010 8:43:45 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: editor-surveyor

True, but wouldn’t you enjoy to see Obama tax-hiking Chris Mathews - I wonder if this will send tingles up his leg. LOL


21 posted on 09/13/2010 8:47:14 AM PDT by Big Bureaucracy
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To: Big Bureaucracy

> “If the republicans vote what Obama wants - all the rich democratic campaign contributors will go nuts.”

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No, they won’t, because Obama’s tax increase will only hit the upper middle class, not the rich.

The rich would be hit if it were a tax on accumulated wealth, which it is not.
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22 posted on 09/13/2010 8:47:30 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: Thebaddog
Don't forget the point that Rush has made over and over again. The taxes keep upward mobility down. If you are already rich, the taxes keep others from getting rich only.

And Rush is right as usual.

There was an interesting thread a couple of days ago about a survey that indicated that people would rather have more money than their peers, even if it is less money than they have now, than have more money than they have now if it means their peers have more money than them.

Its human nature, wealth is more about having one up on your neighbor than satisfying material desires. There was an episode of the Jeffersons with the same theme with George Jefferson saying "What good is being wealthy if everyone else is also wealthy?"

23 posted on 09/13/2010 8:48:37 AM PDT by HerrBlucher (In the White House the mighty White House the Liar sleeps tonight.............)
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To: November 2010

> “I’ve decided that Boehner has made the right move here. Let the Dems screw the rich if they insist on it”

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Boehner is an idiot!

The proposed tax increases won’t touch any “Rich” because it is a tax on earnings, not wealth. It’ll kill the upper middle class that create all the jobs.
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24 posted on 09/13/2010 8:51:20 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: editor-surveyor

You are talking about uber-rich - there are many who work for them who will be tax-hiked. They will end up with unhappy staffers :)


25 posted on 09/13/2010 8:52:00 AM PDT by Big Bureaucracy
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To: editor-surveyor

I think by the time the Congress will be ready to vote - the lobbyists will find enough democrats to support Boehner and the Republicans for continuing all the Bush tax-cuts.
This is all who will be the chicken game.


26 posted on 09/13/2010 8:55:04 AM PDT by Big Bureaucracy
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To: HerrBlucher

> “There was an episode of the Jeffersons with the same theme with George Jefferson saying ‘What good is being wealthy if everyone else is also wealthy?’ “

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Is “The Jeffersons” real life?

No, it is propaganda created by Marxist Socialist Atheist Norman Lear.

This is what the MSM want believed, since it will facilitate taxing the people to serfdom.
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27 posted on 09/13/2010 8:55:31 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: Big Bureaucracy

Consider Theresa Heinz Kerry- almost all of her money is in tax-free muni bonds or in overseas tax shelters. So if you tripled her USA taxes, she’d pay $180,000 per year instead of $60,000.

This would mean new sails on “the little yacht” every four years instead of three, a devastating inconvenience.


28 posted on 09/13/2010 8:55:58 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: editor-surveyor
On point and Boehner knows it.
29 posted on 09/13/2010 8:57:46 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Playing by the rules only works if both sides do it!)
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To: editor-surveyor

Tax-hiking the MSNBC is a good lesson for them.
We need real tax-reform anyway. We need the whole tax-code disposed and a new fair tax, or a low flat tax imposed.


30 posted on 09/13/2010 8:58:05 AM PDT by Big Bureaucracy
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To: HerrBlucher

Yes, Boehner seems to be winning the argument.

Boehner may pleasantly surprise us just yet.... when he becomes speaker!


31 posted on 09/13/2010 8:59:04 AM PDT by o2bfree
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To: Big Bureaucracy

Who do you think these “lobbyists” might be?

Their source of funds is chicken feed in comparison to Soros, Buffett, and Gates, all of whom have demanded tax increases on earners (which they are not).
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32 posted on 09/13/2010 9:00:03 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: Big Bureaucracy

Republican should run on a dramatic tax-reform. The debate about the Bush tax-cuts will be irrelevant in a year if the Republicans are serious about tax-reform.


33 posted on 09/13/2010 9:00:52 AM PDT by Big Bureaucracy
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To: Big Bureaucracy

Seeing it put that way, it seems Bohener knew what he was doing...although I thought that in the first place.


34 posted on 09/13/2010 9:02:00 AM PDT by RockinRight (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: Big Bureaucracy

> “We need the whole tax-code disposed and a new fair tax, or a low flat tax imposed”

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Please stop smoking that stuff; its making my cat dizzy!


35 posted on 09/13/2010 9:02:21 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: editor-surveyor

Those are the lobbyists who are afraid of real tax-reform.
The whole system of tax-cuts, tax-deductions, earned income credit, picking winners and losers in the thousands of pages of the tax-code should be disposed.
10-page tax-code should be implemented - everybody pays 10%-12% or something like that.


36 posted on 09/13/2010 9:04:08 AM PDT by Big Bureaucracy
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To: editor-surveyor

‘Please stop smoking that stuff; its making my cat dizzy!’
If the Republican don’t have the guts to make a real tax-reform with this wave of enthusiasm in the country - they will never do it.


37 posted on 09/13/2010 9:07:26 AM PDT by Big Bureaucracy
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To: editor-surveyor

Cmon editor, you know dang well that this is true, people love the envy of others more than actual wealth, nearly all of advertising is based on this concept, and it has worked well for decades. Its not a communist plot, its simply part of the sinful nature of man.


38 posted on 09/13/2010 9:11:26 AM PDT by HerrBlucher (In the White House the mighty White House the Liar sleeps tonight.............)
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To: HerrBlucher

I am proved correct already. The democrats in the House are drafting a letter to extend all the Bush cuts.
Unhappy major donors?


39 posted on 09/13/2010 9:16:31 AM PDT by Big Bureaucracy
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To: Big Bureaucracy

> “If the Republican don’t have the guts to make a real tax-reform with this wave of enthusiasm in the country - they will never do it.”

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Unless we throw out the current power structure in the party, they will never do it.

What you’re ignoring is the vast benefits of “going along to get along” in both houses of congress. Even congressmen that get tossed out of office are taken care of if they went with the flow, and that is worth from 250 million and up.

Boehner is looking “up.”
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40 posted on 09/13/2010 9:18:16 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: HerrBlucher

> “Cmon editor, you know dang well that this is true, people love the envy of others more than actual wealth”

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That is true for some, but most of them do not last long. Their nature gets the best of them quickly.
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41 posted on 09/13/2010 9:20:36 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: editor-surveyor

If you are not happy with Boehner challenge him in a primary.


42 posted on 09/13/2010 9:23:31 AM PDT by Big Bureaucracy
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To: Big Bureaucracy
Here comes the Boehner’s genius: rich democrats talk class warfare only because they believe the Republicans are there to protect their success. If the Republicans give up and let the radical left President run wild without a check – all those rich democrats will have to walk the walk to IRS, not only talk the talk.

Maybe Boehner is smarter than I had given him credit for, or maybe he's just catching on.

I've been trying to tell people for many years that there are very few conservatives as executives or management in corporations, and even less in NGOs, academia, hollywood, government agencies at all levels. The commies having been "seizing the wealth" long before Obama showed up.

43 posted on 09/13/2010 9:34:05 AM PDT by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: meadsjn

“there are very few conservatives as executives or management in corporations, and even less in NGOs, academia, hollywood, government agencies at all levels. The commies having been “seizing the wealth” long before Obama showed up.”

You are so right. The Bush tax-cuts for the ‘wealthy’ will hit lots of democratic elitists that make between 250K and 400K - about all of the PhDs behind fancy college desks fall in this category. Democrats are the ones that fill many sweet and well paid bureaucratic jobs.


44 posted on 09/13/2010 9:56:01 AM PDT by Big Bureaucracy
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To: wolfman23601
Would that mean if your net worth is negative, they send you a check?

Probably not in your case, but O has given it some thought:

…the Earned Income Tax Credit provides… income through the tax code …(it) should be expanded…so more families can take advantage of it.
2006
The Audacity of Hope, p.283

45 posted on 09/13/2010 9:57:16 AM PDT by frog in a pot (Wake up America! You are losing the war against your families and your Constitution!)
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To: meadsjn

Also don’t forget the local bureaucracies - remember that California mayor with the 6 digits salary?


46 posted on 09/13/2010 10:02:17 AM PDT by Big Bureaucracy
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To: frog in a pot

Obama calls the expanding of the Earned Income Tax Credit a ‘tax-cut’. This is a travesty. Through EIC folks that don’t own taxes receive check of thousands of dollars.

Also they transformed the ‘workfare” into community jobs. Workfare did not count as income for EIC - so they transformed it into salaries so the workfare (street sweeping etc) can collect EIC bonus trough the tax-code on their workfare.


47 posted on 09/13/2010 10:06:58 AM PDT by Big Bureaucracy
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To: Thebaddog
Now you could talk about the theoretical tax that Obama's crowd floated not long ago to tax net worth every year to the tune of about 2%. That would leave a mark.

THAT is an interesting statement. Do you have a confirmed source? The reason that's so terribly interesting is that this would replicate the Islamic Sharia tax scheme of zakat, which is a 2.5% tax on net worth.

48 posted on 09/13/2010 11:43:22 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: meadsjn
Maybe Boehner is smarter than I had given him credit for, or maybe he's just catching on.

What he actually said was:

"If the only option I have is to vote for those at [$250,000] and below, of course I'm going to do that," Boehner said. "But I'm going to do everything I can to fight to make sure that we extend the current tax rates for all Americans."
The Democrats want the Republicans to fight for "tax cuts for the rich", so they have something to beat the Pubbies with in attack ads just before the election. What Boehner is doing is to tell the Dems: "You want it? You got it. We will just vote "present" and let you pass it, and get all the credit for it. See how well your rich constituents like you now."
49 posted on 09/13/2010 12:09:46 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: geologist

According to the Constitution, the people have a right “to petition their government” and lobbyists are just agents for the people.


50 posted on 09/13/2010 12:15:52 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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