Skip to comments.Those Who Know Will Understand : is Russia is preparing to attack USA?
Posted on 09/18/2010 2:40:17 PM PDT by Kabud
According to some experts the U.S. economy is one event away from a catastrophic sequence. My own variation on this sequence goes something like this: first, the dollar collapses; second, the governments response prevents any chance for recovery; third, political unrest and destabilization begins; last, the defensive function of the state fails as external and internal enemies take advantage of the countrys weakness. This sequence would likely be nonsense if it were only my sequence. Unfortunately, it is a sequence dreamt up by Soviet strategists as far back as the 1960s. It was the entire basis of the Soviet strategic blueprint of half a century ago. The writings of at least two Soviet Bloc defectors suggest that this same blueprint dictated the controlled collapse of Communism in Eastern Europe from 1989-91. This would differ from the uncontrolled collapse of capitalism that Soviet strategists also anticipated.
The self-destructive course of bourgeois society is something Communists are well equipped to envision. They are ready to denounce the selfish individualism of capitalist society, the disintegration of community, the dire consequences of untrammeled greed. But Americas demise is mediated by other factors, nearly all of them enumerated in George Washingtons Farewell Address: As a very important source of strength and security, cherish public credit, said Washington. One method of preserving it is to use it as sparingly as possible. He further advised Americans to avoid likewise the accumulation of debt, not only by shunning occasions of expense, but by vigorous exertions in time of peace to discharge the debts which unavoidable wars have occasioned, not ungenerously throwing upon posterity the burden which we ourselves ought to bear....
American leaders make policies that fly in the face of Washingtons advice. The government spends way too much money, and will continue to spend too much money. Look at what is happening today. There are numerous entitlement programs, and government is expected to pay until the system is totally bankrupt. It is therefore foreseeable that the U.S. military will collapse when the U.S. financial system ultimately fails. Even our enemies recognize this, and look forward to it. Under the current regime, the American people seem determined to consume the seed corn meant for tomorrows harvest. So the enemy asks himself, "How can America be pushed over the edge? How can the process of unraveling be hurried along?"
Nine years have passed since terrorists destroyed the World Trade center and burnt the Pentagon. The terrorist cause was Islam, supposedly. The purpose of the attack was economic sabotage, most definitely. One might say that America was pushed as it strolled along the edge of an economic abyss. It is in this context we should consider the allegations of former KGB/FSB officer Alexander Litvinenko, who said the KGB was behind al Qaeda. Litvinenko claimed that Ayman al-Zawahri, the number two man in al Qaeda, was a longtime KGB agent. What lends credence to Litvinenko's claim is the well known fact that the Kremlin poisoned Litvinenko with radioactive polonium 210. The substance used to kill him was ridiculously expensive and exotic, indicating a government sponsored assassination. Major media outlets have confirmed the conclusion of official inquiries; namely, that Litvinenko was assassinated by Kremlin agents.
A curious addendum to Litvinenkos testimony was broadcast on Echo of Moscow on 9 September 2010. A former member of the Russian parliament, Konstantin Borovoy, gave an interview to Tatyana Felgenhauer in which he revealed something related to 9/11 -- something that supports Litvinenko's allegations. Describing the 1999 terrorist attacks in Russia that enabled Putin and his FSB/KGB colleagues to take power, Borovoy indicated a conspiracy at the highest levels; specifically, he said the attacks were a method used to stop the advance of freedom and capitalism in Russia. The KGB had to reassert itself, and justify a gradual return to Soviet methods, by organizing terrorist acts that would be blamed on Muslims from Chechnya. Borovoy hoped the Russian people would catch on. He hoped they would realize who the real terrorists were; but this did not happen. "Actually," said Borovoy, "the [political] tactics or technology [of manipulation], which was tested through the bombing of the apartment houses [in 1999], worked. Every time an attack happens, people are frightened; and much of society responds very simply. They rally around the centers of power. " Borovoy then pointed to information indicating that the KGB was also behind the terrorist attacks of 9/11.
"When the apartment bombings happened in September of 1999 I held a press conference," said Borovoy, "I got hold of very serious intelligence. It happened to contain data ... about the U.S., which I gave to the FBI." The contact who provided this "serious intelligence" indicated that the FSB was, in fact, behind the apartment bombings. But there was more. "Besides that," Borovoy explained, "he also provided me with information regarding the United States. This information, in 1999, sounded totally absurd. He told me that someone named bin Laden was going to torpedo skyscrapers with Boeing airliners."
When Borovoy learned about the bin Laden story, as ridiculous as it sounded in 1999, he felt obligated to say something to the Americans. So when he was traveling in the United States a month later, he wanted to convey the information without sounding ridiculous. He therefore approached the Americans with an apology in case the information sounded crazy: Osama bin Laden was going to hit American skyscrapers with airliners. "I gave them this information," said Borovoy. "And would you believe, this exact thing happened in two years?"
So how did Russians in Moscow know about 9/11 two years in advance? If Borovoy is telling the truth, there is only one likely answer to the question. The Russians had long prepared something known by the General Staff as "the overture," which was described by GRU defector Viktor Suvorov as
a series of large and small operations the purpose of which is, before actual military operations begin, to weaken the enemy's morale, create an atmosphere of general suspicion, fear and uncertainty, and divert the attention of the enemy's armies and police forces to a huge number of different targets, each of which may be the object of the next attack." [Spetsnaz, p. 196]
According to Suvorov, the overture is carried out by special services agents of satellite countries and by "mercenaries recruited by intermediaries." The method employed in these operations is known as "grey terror." In Suvorov's words, this is a "kind of terror which is not conducted in the name of the Soviet Union. " Moscow does not leave its visiting card. Instead, other people's cards are used. "The terror is carried out in the name of already existing extremist groups not connected in any way with the Soviet Union, or in the name of fictitious organizations."
During the period of grey terror, Russian sabotage operations "should be regarded as natural disasters, actions by forces beyond human control, mistakes committed by people, or as terrorist acts...." Attending the terror campaign, there will also be a disinformation campaign intended to destroy the authority of the government. Plausible scandals will be created out of nothing. Generals and politicians will be driven to suicide. The KGB and GRU will dust off their old files -- especially files on the most powerful people in the West. These men and women, above all, will be targeted for destruction. Methods will include slander and innuendo. "The main victims now are the people whom the Soviets had tried to recruit but failed. Now carefully edited and annotated materials get into the hands of the press," noted Suvorov.
Soviet intelligence has tried to recruit thousands, even tens of thousands, of people in its time. They include young lieutenants who have now become generals and third secretaries who have now become ambassadors. All of them rejected Soviet efforts to recruit them, and now Soviet Intelligence avenges their refusal. [Spetsnaz, pp. 197-8]
Imagine the confusion and erosion of authority that will attend this last phase of the operation. The most trustworthy people will be distrusted. Those who were actually recruited by Soviet Intelligence, will be the only figures apparently free from scandal. The peace movement will simultaneously gain prestige. Those who suspect Moscow will lose all credibility. Finally, when grey terror has served its purpose the Russians and their Communist allies will resort to open warfare: "Red Terror."
If you think "the overture" is fantasy, you are sadly mistaken. What Suvorov described in his book, written in the mid-1980s, is the very real plans of real men -- deadly enemies of the United States, determined to destroy America forever. Konstantin Boroyov is merely one witness out of many, telling you the same story. Litvinenko told this story more directly, and was poisoned. Boroyov offers a few facts, and hopes that people will "wake up." Of course, he knows they won't.
Related to this, a suggestive item recently appeared in an American newspaper, the Savannah Morning News. Effingham County Sheriff deputies arrested three men (two from former Soviet Russia and one from former Soviet Kazakhstan) near a power plant on Old Augusta Road at 1 a.m. Sunday morning, 5 September. The men were in possession of a machete, shovel, wire cutters and ski masks. According to the Savannah Morning News, one of the men had black silk stockings in his front left pocket. Of course, all three were released after being interviewed by officials of the Joint Terrorism Task Force.
The job of Soviet spetsnaz (special forces), who train in the United States under the guise of "tourists," is to infiltrate the U.S. prior to a nuclear war and take out key targets. These would include power plants, city water supplies, government leaders, etc. They are also tasked with burying nuclear weapons on American soil in advance of a war. If you look at Old Augusta Road on a map, it is located about two miles east of the McIntosh Combined Cycle Plant in a rural wooded area. So let us imagine this situation: three young male tourists from the former Soviet Union, of military age, driving a Nissan Pathfinder at 1 a.m. on a Sunday morning with ski masks and black silk stockings, a shovel, wire cutters and a machete. Their destination is not a nightclub or bar. They are driving to "the end of the road." From their tools one may expect they will be cutting their way through brush, digging a hole, and cutting wires. One more thing: Old Augusta Road has power lines running along its length. In the following passage, read what GRU Col. Stanislav Lunev says about Russian nuclear devices maintained on U.S. soil:
Setting up one of these devices is complicated. The bombs need a small amount of power to keep them safely in storage. For example, the GRU specialist might have to run a very small wire to an electrical source, such as a power wire, and then attach it to the weapon. The wires can be run as far as one hundred yards or more from the weapon. The wires are small enough that they would easily break if someone tampered with them or tried to follow them to their source. In case there is a loss of power, there is a battery. (Through the Eyes of the Enemy, p. 26)
According to Lunev, GRU operatives have been sent to find hiding places for Russian nuclear weapons on American soil. One of these weapons, the RA-115 portable nuclear weapon, is intended for use against American leaders and other targets of strategic importance at the outset of a war. As Lunev explained, it is surprisingly easy to smuggle nuclear weapons into the U.S., either across the Mexican border or using a small transport missile that can slip by undetected when launched from a Russian airplane.
Related to the suspects' possession of a shovel, GRU defector Suvorov explained that the shovel (or spade) is the principle weapon of Soviet spetsnaz. According to Suvorov, a shovel is an excellent device for torturing prisoners, to cut off ears and fingers, to hit the victims in the liver and perform a whole catalogue of unpleasant operations on a person under interrogation.
Through all of this we are led to suspect that Russia is preparing to attack the United States. Along with Communist China, it is only logical that the Russians are waiting for the collapse of the U.S. economy. They hope that Americans will turn against each other. They further hope that America's defensive systems will stop being serviced. Undoubtedly Americans are not acting wisely. The U.S. government is spending too much money. We continue to slide toward bankruptcy.
In closing, I would like to quote from a courageous blogger in Moscow.
I am not a Cassandra. I am not into conspiracy theory, not even close. But at the end of July 2001 I was expecting that somewhere on earth somebody was preparing for a devastating terror attack. I have my own system to figure things out. I observe, analyze, and draw conclusions. What I mean is that from the middle of 1990 I noted that as soon as a certain Very Important Person [VIP] starts to frequently appear on [Russian] TV, a terror attack follows. Either a suicide bomber in Israel, or an explosion of a pipeline ... I was never building any graphs with data. My method is based on observing this particular snout on the TV screen. Then I start thinking, Who is going to die this time. And I am never wrong. As soon as this particular VIP appears with a certain frequency on the TV screen, something very bloody happens. It is important to know that this particular VIP is a top flier in the special services [KGB/FSB]; so this character suddenly starts to crawl across the TV screen in July 2001 and remains there through all of August; and this is what I was thinking: Is it going to be a war? Because this character can do it. On September 11, 2001 around 5 p.m. Moscow time, I realized that again I wasnt mistaken. This snout never appears on TV for nothing; so those who understand have no doubt about who I mean in particular. Intelligenti satis et sapienti sat.
Among brave freethinking Russians, this commentary was recognized as one of the best blogs of the day at http://www.besttoday.ru/subjects/225.html.
Why bother we got nothing left
They don’t need to attack us. They gave us the deadly virus of “socialism.”
What? And take over responsibility for our debt?!
Why should they bother? Obama will do it for them, and they won’t get blamed.
Give it time and if Obama gets reelected, Russia may be turning many of us freedom lovers away!
Maybe they can improve Detroit?
just think about the volume of Russian total investment in weaponry
why waste all of it?
besides they announce that they will spend over
10 trillion rubles on defense in the next 10 years or so
$1 = 30 rubles
What they pay to their military in Russia is only like 10% of what is paid in USA, may be less then that
so what they pay to their military, including pensions is nothing
I don’t doubt that they would try it, but they would fail. This long-term plan always counted on using American useful idiots to impliment creeping socialism, culminating in the disarmament of Americans, before the invasion could take place. I seriously doubt that will ever come off according to their plans. If it doesn’t, then even if the entire U.S. Military is defunct, any invading army will still have to face tens of millions of “Wolverines”, many of them combat veterans, who would be more than happy to show them some American hospitality.
Conditioned with “those who know will understand”...how quaint. =.=
with the debt thing:
it is a cost World will have to pay if they want more of technology that American creative spirit produces:
Iphone, internet, google, telephone, cars, highways, jeans for that matter to name a few
Come on, people Americans run the civilization at the deepest level, Americans create EVERYTHING out there
Just lets arm USA to the level that nobody even dares to think not in a proper way about USA
We can do it.
I call them family and friends
What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
I’m wondering who this “VIP” is that the author mentions near the end of the article(?)
I’m wondering who this “VIP” is that the author mentions near the end of the article(?)
what is played against us is a scenario divide and conquer:
enemy wants whites to hate The President because he is black
and if The President is impeached God forbids- enemy expects massive riots here
another scenario they work upon is a severe economic downturn and riots on the non-white side of population
and at worth: both.
So if radicals on both sides collide:
it is going to be a perfect situation to attack from outside
Thats what the enemy plan is for MILITIAS and alike
The Russian’s and Chinese only desire to ‘economically collapse’ the USA which leaves both nations free reign over their sphere’s of influences—Western Europe and East Asia.
Militarily Occupying is a waste of their resources and is a job best left to La Raza/Mexico retaking the southwest and letting the rest of the US states form their own their own federations free from what’s left of DC control but ‘influenced’ by Moscow or Beijing.
We will be just a large version of Cold War Finland.
You count too heavily on left and right not being able to get along. Even if we don’t today, you might be surprised at how fast we find common ground if facing an invader.
It seems redundant for Russia to attack the US when almost all of DC, the media, and about a third of the citizens would welcome them as Utopian saviors ...
But I do think there is a lot more to the story of the 3 Russians near the nuke plant in Georgia. Also, we are at a point economically and socially where we really are strolling along an abyss, and one tiny push is all it will take ...
we need more wars?
they need more wars?
The Russians got their asses kicked by rag-tag militias in Afghanistan. And now they’re about to attack and defeat the United States?!!? Okaaaay...
Beware the bubushkas carrying nukes.
If you wanted freedom, why would you move to Russia?
Sounds like the standard operating procedures of the communist party USA --- sorry, I mean the Democrat Party USA and their nationwide commercial media operation, otherwise known as the "Main Stream Media" here in America.
You are looking through things with a western mindset. They see things from an eastern with a false western shell around it for deception purposes. All warfare is based off of deception. For one to truly win a war, it must be total in its effect whether it is subjugation or total wipe out of the population. Nukes and bio weapons make that more practical than subjugation. All they need is a the right moment when we are not paying attention, say a huge economic and political crisis. We are in the process of the economic, and you can bet that Obama will see to there is a political one as he realizes that he won't see a second term legally from the voter. Obama is the perfect useful idiot. We will see if he lives up to that hope by our enemies.
The Red Dawn remake release, to the best of my knowledge, has been delayed to 2011.
Revenge is a dish best served cold. It is very cold in Siberia.
The Russians didn’t have the option of using nukes in Afghanistan. The threat would not have been useful nor the reality.
thanks,I’ve seen that before
So much horsesh!t in this article, it's really two bad he only has two of his own feet to appreciate it all with.
We have already been attacked. Ain’t much left.
Oh please, what BS.
I wasn’t talking about the military. Even without a military, America is armed and dangerous. Let them come, then our enemy’s masks will be off and Americans will have no more illusions about who is with us, and who is against us.
“Militarily Occupying is a waste of their resources and is a job best left to La Raza/Mexico retaking the southwest”
That’s funny stuff. To retake the southwest, they’ll have to get past Texans and Arizonans.
It’s a nightmare!
They’re going to take us over, force a free market economy on us, do away with socialism, stop the government from pandering to blacks and muslims, and cut welfare to everyone who is healthy enough to support themselves.
Readers of this can be sure that staff officers of many countries are working the problem as you read this. They are accessing whether they have a reasonable chance of attacking and defeating the US under the current conditions. They are also determining what further deterioration will have to take place to the US to insure that they will prevail in an attack on us. Shortly after they think that they can fight and defeat us, they will.
They are also implementing plans which will sow dissention in the world and in the United States to further divide and weaken us. The art of fighting without fighting. You can bet your bippie on it.
Good thread - I’m sorry I missed it.
Please, they did it with US Made Stingers
Oh, really, so if Russian troops, assuming they can find transportation over the Alaska straights - or maybe Russian divisions can buy regular passenger tickets on Alaska Airlines to invade America.
Russia got its ass kicked because its troops are untrained, unmotivated and they don’t have combat supplies. Any army that can’t stand up to a few missile hits has great big problems.
“they did it with US Made Stingers”
Thanks for the laugh...
Why we have a Marxist Prez and a treasonous Congress..??
“The Russians got their asses kicked by rag-tag militias in Afghanistan. And now theyre about to attack and defeat the United States?!!? Okaaaay...”
And we’re getting our asses kicked there also. Afghanistan is a War that can’t be won. And as far as War with
Russia. Well...Let’s just pray it doesn’t come down to that.
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