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Author: ‘Great Leap Forward’ Death Toll Was 45 Million; Nick Kristof in 2005: Mao ‘Not All Bad’
Newsbusters via Bizzy Blog ^ | 19 Sept 2010 | (Unknown)

Posted on 09/19/2010 9:06:46 AM PDT by combat_boots

A UK Independent item about an unreleased book by historian Frank Dikötter made me think about New York Times columnist NIcholas Kristof. Readers will see why shortly.

Amazon says that Dikötter’s “Mao’s Great Famine: The History of China’s Most Devastating Catastrophe, 1958-1962″ will be released on September 28. The Independent’s Arifa Akbar relays Dikötter’s core conclusion that “At least 45 million people were worked, starved or beaten to death in China over these four years.” This is a significantly higher number than the highest previous estimate of Jung Chang, who asserted in her 2005 book, “Mao: The Unknown Story,” that “38 million people were starved and slave-driven to death in 1958-61.” The seven million extra deaths would move Chang’s 2005 total of “more than 70 million” into the neighborhood of 80 million, padding Mao’s lead over Stalin and Hitler as the worst mass murderer in human history.

The Independent’s Akbar also writes that “Mr. Dikötter is the only author to have delved into the Chinese archives since they were reopened four years ago.” If true, this reflects a startling lack of curiosity.

I hope Nick Kristof is just a little curious, and will peruse what Mr. Dikötter has documented when it becomes available. Perhaps it will move him to reach conclusions a bit different from those he reached when he reviewed Chang’s book in October 2005 (bolds are mine):

(Excerpt) Read more at bizzyblog.com ...


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: communism; lsm; msm
I'd never heard of this blog until now.
1 posted on 09/19/2010 9:06:52 AM PDT by combat_boots
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To: combat_boots

well, if 45 million murder victims isn’t worth the lights at the top of the Empire State Building for a night, I dunno what is!


2 posted on 09/19/2010 9:09:14 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: combat_boots

When the Free Republic said that Stalin had killed 40 million, I’m going to repeat a quote a freeper said about Stalin as it applies to Mao: “Mao may have killed 45 million, but he never put a woman’s panties on a guy’s head (the remark was in reference to Abu Gharib and the criticism George W. Bush received about it).”


3 posted on 09/19/2010 9:10:42 AM PDT by Stepan12 (Palin & Bolton in 2012)
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To: combat_boots
The seven million extra deaths would move Chang’s 2005 total of “more than 70 million” into the neighborhood of 80 million, padding Mao’s lead over Stalin and Hitler as the worst mass murderer in human history.
But that's not taking into account population differences. If you factor those in, Mao can be viewed as somewhat of a moderate.

/s

4 posted on 09/19/2010 9:11:45 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: combat_boots

Useful Idiots
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/documentaries/2010/07/100624_doc_useful_idiots_lenin.shtml

posted on FR here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2577621/posts


5 posted on 09/19/2010 9:12:10 AM PDT by Lorianne (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. ___ George Orwell)
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To: combat_boots

Commie bastards are responsible for murdering and slaughtering millions of people.

So much for the New York Times, the premier commie newspaper in the US.


6 posted on 09/19/2010 9:13:20 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: combat_boots
The emancipation of women and end of child marriages...
So Kristof listed women and children slaver as bad things back in 2005?

I'm sure he wouldn't do that today because, quite frankly, that would be anti-muslim.

That would be RACIST!

7 posted on 09/19/2010 9:13:55 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Ev Reeman
So much for the New York Times...
Hey, they've got a long history of this. They were in on the original coverup of the original genocidal famine of the 20th century: Stalin's "purge" of 7 million "kulaks" in the Ukraine in the 30s.

"Purge" meaning starving the entire countryside TO DEATH with the grain needed to keep them alive locked up in commie-guarded silos in plain sight of they dying men, women and children. (Think about THAT.)

Never happened, according to the NY Slimes of the day, a slight historical "error" that's never been corrected.

8 posted on 09/19/2010 9:18:02 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: combat_boots
“Mao ‘Not All Bad’”

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“Hitler Not All Bad”

Marge Schott, former owner of the Cincinnati Reds, was effectively run out of baseball for similar comments, regarding another mass murdering leftist totalitarian of the 20th century.

As usual, the double standard applies.

9 posted on 09/19/2010 9:18:41 AM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: combat_boots

I got a malware warning.


10 posted on 09/19/2010 9:24:04 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade, There are only two sides. Pick one.)
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To: combat_boots

The Dems and the left have MORE reason to love Mao now!


11 posted on 09/19/2010 9:41:31 AM PDT by rbosque (11 year Freeper! Combat Economist.)
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To: combat_boots

Atheism in Action


12 posted on 09/19/2010 9:41:42 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: sageb1

Oh no.

Here’s the Newsbuster’s link to the same article. Apologies.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2010/09/19/author-great-leap-forward-death-toll-was-45-million-nick-kristof-2005-ma

I guess there’s a reason I haven’t heard of that blog before.


13 posted on 09/19/2010 9:41:58 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: samtheman
Hey, they've got a long history of this. They were in on the original coverup of the original genocidal famine of the 20th century: Stalin's "purge" of 7 million "kulaks" in the Ukraine in the 30s.

In other words, Ukrainian rednecks to the lefty urban elite who often never show a bit of respect to the people who provide the food that they eat. Not a group for whom the PC world easily mourns.

14 posted on 09/19/2010 9:45:50 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: combat_boots
The seven million extra deaths would move Chang’s 2005 total of “more than 70 million” into the neighborhood of 80 million, padding Mao’s lead over Stalin and Hitler as the worst mass murderer in human history.

The problem is that Marxism has never been put into practice correctly. If it had been there would be nobody around to dicuss its faults.

15 posted on 09/19/2010 9:56:21 AM PDT by Timocrat
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To: combat_boots

Nicholas Kristof wishes he was one of those 45 million, huh? =.=


16 posted on 09/19/2010 11:08:55 AM PDT by cranked
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
Ukrainian rednecks ... Not a group for whom the PC world easily mourns.
Not when those great commissars showed up at the UN and regaled NY Times reporters with stories of Socialist Victories... they were so, so, entertaining!
17 posted on 09/19/2010 11:23:35 AM PDT by samtheman
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