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To: trisham; Mrs. Don-o
Imho, the medical professional has an unacceptable number of members who do not value life.

That is hard for many to accept I know. We got an "up close & personal" confirmation of the truth of that assertion in the ER, when a snot nosed intern was trying to push a DNR for our elderly father (i/l)

I quote, "Well. He doesn't have much of a life."

Needless to say, he did not get his precious DNR. However, the head of that hospital did get a full report and a proper dressing down. I forget the detail of what we said to the youngster playing God, at the time.

But, how many families just go with "doctor knows best."?

6 posted on 09/19/2010 10:28:43 AM PDT by don-o ("At this point, Islam is just surging into a vacuum" - Mrs Don-o)
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To: don-o; Mrs. Don-o; wagglebee

I would guess many more than we might even imagine. How intimidating are hospitals and doctors, particularly in the ER?


7 posted on 09/19/2010 10:32:30 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: don-o

Having spent a lot of time recently in hospitals and having procedures done, I have noticed more things that disturb me. For instance, I was given a med before a recent minor surgical procedure that I was told would *relax* me before I was given anesthesia. Later, when I realized I didn’t even recall going into the OR I looked the drug up, and discovered that what it did was give me amnesia! So, I was awake but was unable to process memories for that time period. How is this beneficial to ME? I can see how it’s beneficial to the medical profession, but not the patient. I will certainly ask not to be given that drug again (and feel that I was not given it with informed consent at the time). You really need to have someone you trust advocating for you at all times now days because I don’t think you can always trust your doctors and others.


9 posted on 09/19/2010 10:38:52 AM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: don-o

I believe that is changing “Doctor knows best”

The pro life education and self help care info is getting out there.

As a pro life advocate for KV sure I have had many docs not able to understand our pro life view but I have also had a few that get excited that KV is a survivor with a zest of life.

Pro Life medical care education still has a big job in educating families on how to be self advocates.

Our Catholic faith teaches that very well through media programs such as EWTN programming.

Some of us are just blessed with that knowledge.

Some families are ignorant but there are families that don’t want the “problem” of caring for a disabled loved one.

Then you have the socialist govt drivin cultural illness of a person who cannot be employeed is a useless life. What good is a human who can’t pay taxes and even worse 2 humans who can’t pay if a family member leaves the work force to care for a severely disabled loved on in the home.

I could say it is simplistic as how God values life and how Govt. views life. Polar oppisites.

Lastly it comes down to those who chose knowingly or not out of being selfish.

I heard (sorry if I dont quote it perfect) it said when the Pope was at the Angelican Mass or somewhere in that visit that God is not going to pull out our financial earnings for life when we come before him and that we put way to much importance on how much we earn then we do other aspects of our lives, the aspects that are Godly.


39 posted on 09/19/2010 6:38:17 PM PDT by Global2010
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