Posted on 09/21/2010 6:09:15 AM PDT by LibWhacker
The S in SETI stands for Scam.
I believe that, if prepared correctly ... we taste like Chicken.
If evolution is true AND not directed in any way but completely follows chance mutations, there is no reason to believe that, even though there may be life on other planets, that life has evolved in the same direction as life on earth. There seems to be an assumption out there that evolution of life will always lead to human-like life or an advanced form of it. If that is true then “chance” evolution is NOT true, rather it must be directed by some outside intelligent force.
“”They” may send us a downloadable trojan horse, an intelligent computer virus, which could infect our entire planet’s computerized infrastructure.”
They already did that. It’s called “Windows.”
What is it with these nutty people who claim to be so smart? First Hawking claims that gravity can create matter out of nothing, now this guy believes that robots/computers form by themselves? Good grief.
Scam Extraterrestrial Intelligence? Hey, I’m all for it. Let’s take ‘em for every Quatloo!
No, no, he’s saying intelligent civilizations inevitably build them. Then the intelligent robots get out of control and take over.
Klatu, Barada, Nikto
Yea, I’d be careful about that. Could be stolen Space Cash.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinewood_Derby_%28South_Park%29
Interesting post. I would add that if CREATION is true, the same conclusion follows.
Accordingly, if either creation or evolution is true, then, most likely, this is it.
(which I think, personally, is very much the case....).
This is laughable. The idea that the hyper-intelligent AI posited would be able to figure out our operating systems and computer architecture from our transmissions is the stuff of SciFi (Jeff Goldblum in 'Independence Day').
So, then Planet X has already lost to the Terminators? Damn that Skynet. Here we are playing 2-D chess and it's already won on the 3-D board. ;-)
I can’t believe no one’s yet bounced a signal off an asteroid for SETI to pick up. Something along the lines of “surrender or else” would do wonders for funding the military and gutting socialist spending.
No, if Creation is true the Creator is free to create life on any number of planets in any form of life He chooses, including life more advanced than humans, life that may have built AI collectives. I would say that if human-like life exists on other planets that is additional proof of a Creator. With Evolution though, one would predict that the life on other planets would be extremely variable with the likelyood of the existence of human-like life quite remote.
He’s watched Terminator and Battlestar Galactica a few too many times. :)
Perhaps I should have said, Biblical Creation. If Biblical Creation is true, then I think you have “this is it” and for profoundly theological reasons, all set forth in Scripture.
But you are quite right. The ONLY way you get to human life on other planets is through some sort of new, non-Biblical religious system. You have to have a religious, creation-based philosophy but without earth/human distinctiveness and you have to build up an entire theology and cosmology to support that. When that is done, you are way outside of all of not only the Biblical tradition, but outside all of the monotheistic traditions here on earth.
Which puts Carl Sagan exactly in his place. He may not like it, but what he is, fundamentally, is a soft-headed religious philosopher. Nothing more.
Sorry, but God is not free to create life on any/every planet in whatever form He decides.
“Then God said, “Let us make man[a] in Our image, after Our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.””
God made man in HIS image - the image of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. That does not mean as a T1000 series, or HAL 9000, or anything else.
True, God doesn’t directly create the AI collective just like He did not directly create the computers you and I are using right now, but other human-like creations He may have placed on other planets might create the AI collectives. God created man in His image, meaning he created a being with self conciousness, intelligence, and the ability to create also. This is no way precludes him putting other human-like (in the image of God) life on other planets that might then build AI collectives.
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