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If Moscow nuked London, Paris and Stockholm, what would happen?
10/02/2010 | WesternCulture

Posted on 10/01/2010 10:50:56 PM PDT by WesternCulture

Of course, this scenario is a nightmare, but not a lost cause.

The most stupid thing to do while at war with Northern Europeans is to try and annihilate their base.

We won't be there.

The Romans feared the people living East of the River Rhine (the Germans).

They also knew the Northmen.

Fighting the people of Scandinavia was not even an option as the Romans were well aware the Northmen were twice as tall, three times heavier (in sheer muscle weight), four times as drunk and many times swifter at water than they were.

Hitler (a Central European who never understood the greatness of Goethe and Schiller), learned the hard way bombing London was of no use.

But what would the fate of Russia be under conditions accounted for above after an attack by the Swedish Navy?

1. Russia would cease to function as a nation (a situation not wholly unfamiliar to them). Large parts of their infrastructure as well as their navy would be taken out within one hour.

Vital Russian targets don't lack protection, but its a matter of speed.

Compared to what SAAB Aerospace and Ericsson know about computing destruction their level is mongoloid B+.

2. Formerly opressed nations in Eastern Europe (Poland, Hungary etc) would take up arms against Russia.

If any problems would arise, Nato would finish Russia off.

If that effort too would fail, we would have to call in the Finns, the only nation ever to defeat Stalin (see below).


TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: finland; military; russia; sweden; warfare
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1 posted on 10/01/2010 10:51:03 PM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture

Swedish navy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bs_Zz4CC7go

(You don’t stand a chance.)

The Finns, Stalin’s worst nightmare address us;

- They are well equipped, we are outnumbered.

They are well armed, we have promises of aid.

They are well experienced, we are patriots.

They have a strong leader, we are Finland.

Stalin lost.


2 posted on 10/01/2010 10:51:36 PM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture

When Finns fights Russians:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ELfMprEbrI


3 posted on 10/01/2010 10:54:37 PM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture

That was some really nasty battles for the russians at the hands of the Finns.The russians never got over the ass whoopin.


4 posted on 10/01/2010 10:56:26 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: WesternCulture

We wouldn’t have to hear how wonderful their egalitarian, socialist societies are superior to us.


5 posted on 10/01/2010 10:57:42 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: WesternCulture
Well if that doesn't happen for about another ten years or so, it will just be part of the world war against Islam.

I think in our lifetimes we may see the next major world war being Russia, China and [if we're lucky] the USA against the Muslim World. The last three islands in a sea of Islam.

6 posted on 10/01/2010 11:00:04 PM PDT by sjmjax
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To: WesternCulture
To answer the question directly, without malice, the number of LibTards and Moslem Terrorist would decline significantly. That's precisely why it won't happen! JMHO
7 posted on 10/01/2010 11:05:11 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: Vendome

“We wouldn’t have to hear how wonderful their egalitarian, socialist societies are superior to us.”

- That was in the 70’s.

Today, two of the 15 richest men on Earth are Swedes.

Sweden, in fact, has pretty low corporate taxes compared to many other Western countries, especially Germany and the US.

You’re the Disco Stu.


8 posted on 10/01/2010 11:06:23 PM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture

The Kenyan would say the Russians had a good reason. Move on...


9 posted on 10/01/2010 11:06:29 PM PDT by y6162
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To: WesternCulture
If Moscow nuked London, Paris and Stockholm, what would happen?

They would kill a lot of Muslims.

10 posted on 10/01/2010 11:08:48 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Half of all Americans are above average.)
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To: WesternCulture

Okay.

I hate their furniture. LOL


11 posted on 10/01/2010 11:08:59 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: WesternCulture

I hate running out of vodka in the middle of the night.


12 posted on 10/01/2010 11:11:13 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (The Democrat Party is spending your great-grandkids inheritance)
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To: WesternCulture

We could get NASA to act as negotiators for a cease fire.


13 posted on 10/01/2010 11:16:50 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: WesternCulture

Nothing. It’s not like 0bama is gonna help them. If Riyadh, Mecca, Havana and Caracas are nuked, however, there might be war.


14 posted on 10/01/2010 11:17:02 PM PDT by paudio (How could you be an open-minded person if you are a liberal?)
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To: WesternCulture

They would kill a lot of Muslims. That might anger the Saudis.


15 posted on 10/01/2010 11:17:33 PM PDT by reg45
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To: WesternCulture

How many nukes does Sweden have? And how many does Russia have? End of story.

Lesson: Sweden, arm yourself. Go nuclear.


16 posted on 10/01/2010 11:21:27 PM PDT by James C. Bennett
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To: WesternCulture

“If Moscow nuked London, Paris and Stockholm, what would happen?”

Slightly re-target to Londonistan a-ok but add a few places in N England, Paris suburbs and Malmo, Sweden. - End result - lots of dead muslims.


17 posted on 10/01/2010 11:24:00 PM PDT by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: WesternCulture

Mr. Ikea and ????


18 posted on 10/01/2010 11:25:05 PM PDT by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: Frantzie

“Mr. Ikea and ????”

- A straightforward remark!

But, if I may say so, IKEA actually deserves a good deal of honest appraisal.

Their prudent and striving firm has delivered nuke-proof doormats to my cats cathouse and on tuesdays we feast on Swedish (well, Norwegian) salmon for din-dins.

A jolly ting-tang hey-ho over-the-top-we-go hey-tang-ting and meet you in Berlin!

See you there.


19 posted on 10/01/2010 11:42:58 PM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: James C. Bennett

“How many nukes does Sweden have? And how many does Russia have? End of story.

Lesson: Sweden, arm yourself. Go nuclear.”

- Ok, I’ve had a tropical Cpt. gin grog this friday evening/saturday morning (or is it monday afternoon which means work?), but I refuse to go nuclear.

Seriously, who needs nuclear weapons when the likeliness of a Russian leader recalling the code is NZC.

Go waste your time elewhere.


20 posted on 10/02/2010 12:01:45 AM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture

IBTZOT...


21 posted on 10/02/2010 12:14:48 AM PDT by ketelone
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To: WesternCulture
What would happen?

Easy, -— Obama would go to the UN and Apologize to the World that He's sure the US made them mad enough to do this and don't worry. Obama will just write a check to rebuild all the damages and that's all folks!

22 posted on 10/02/2010 12:40:15 AM PDT by EnglishOnly (Fight all out to win OR get out now.)
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To: EnglishOnly

“Obama will just write a check to rebuild all the damages and that’s all folks!”

We’re gonna need some new printing presses! I hope he makes ‘em bigger and better!!!

Or, not...


23 posted on 10/02/2010 12:44:17 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Remember November...I can see it from my house!)
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To: WesternCulture

The Europeans would try to ignore it for fear of getting in a fight and appearing hateful?


24 posted on 10/02/2010 1:06:25 AM PDT by TheThinker (Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenario at a time.)
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To: TheThinker

Anti-Defense is Homo


25 posted on 10/02/2010 1:07:29 AM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: WesternCulture

If France and UK get nuked, they sure would nuke back. What would Sweden do? Don’t know.

If Germany was nuked...

- we would worry about the environmental impact and whether this will accelerate the climate change.
- we would lament about the evil of mankind in general (not the russians).
- “perhaps we deserved it”
- Spiegel Online would construct several stories which make out the U.S. as the root cause of this conflict (”understand the russians”).


26 posted on 10/02/2010 1:56:49 AM PDT by avid (Please consider the environmental impact of not printing this posting!)
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To: WesternCulture

If France and UK get nuked, they sure would nuke back. What would Sweden do? Don’t know.

If Germany was nuked...

- we would worry about the environmental impact and whether this will accelerate the climate change.
- we would lament about the evil of mankind in general (not the russians).
- “perhaps we deserved it”
- Spiegel Online would construct several stories which make out the U.S. as the root cause of this conflict (”understand the russians”).


27 posted on 10/02/2010 1:56:54 AM PDT by avid (Please consider the environmental impact of not printing this posting!)
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To: WesternCulture
Compared to what SAAB Aerospace and Ericsson know about computing destruction their level is mongoloid B+

Well..., okay....

28 posted on 10/02/2010 2:28:51 AM PDT by freebilly (No wonder the left has a boner for Obama. There's CIALIS in soCIALISt....)
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To: WesternCulture

Good to see you!

Your threads are always lively!


29 posted on 10/02/2010 2:31:45 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus)
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To: James C. Bennett
Lesson: Sweden, arm yourself. Go nuclear.

Sweden *was* going nuclear after wwii. What held them back was basically the prospect of USA balancing the Soviets plus the UN nonproliferation deals. The Swedes even had a nuclear strategig bomber on the drawing board, if I'm not mistaken. Of course, we were also well on the way to the bomb at that point, but that was also rendered null and void by the various treaties we all ended up with...

30 posted on 10/02/2010 2:56:23 AM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: Hardraade

Swedish bomber:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_36


31 posted on 10/02/2010 3:00:10 AM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: Hardraade

Which is bad, in a philosophical sense.

I think Sweden, like any other sovereign country, should have the means to annihilate any of its traditional adversaries, without external dependencies.


32 posted on 10/02/2010 3:16:05 AM PDT by James C. Bennett
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To: WesternCulture

Poles also defeated Stalin.


33 posted on 10/02/2010 4:03:53 AM PDT by donmeaker ("Get off my lawn." Clint Eastwood, Green Ford Torino)
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To: WesternCulture

Poles also defeated Stalin.


34 posted on 10/02/2010 4:04:00 AM PDT by donmeaker ("Get off my lawn." Clint Eastwood, Green Ford Torino)
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To: WesternCulture

We (i.e., the West) would NUKE Moscow.

Damnit!

Someone had to say it.


35 posted on 10/02/2010 4:47:48 AM PDT by Mad Federalist
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To: WesternCulture

This thread is totally nuts.


36 posted on 10/02/2010 5:10:13 AM PDT by devere
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To: WesternCulture

In a true World of Realpolitic they would just get away with that. No one could react other than with a strong letter or a speach at UN to that.
The cost of getting into a hot war with a major military power posessing thousands of nukes is too high. No alliance is worth that.
The thread is lunatic.


37 posted on 10/02/2010 5:23:02 AM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: WesternCulture

Moscow is not going to be nuking anybody.

Ridiculous topic.

It’s nukes from _somewhere else_ that we’d better be concerned about.


38 posted on 10/02/2010 7:18:20 AM PDT by Grumplestiltskin (I may look new, but it's only deja vu!)
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To: WesternCulture

Excellent! Now go and get one more bottle of vodka. I want to read a story about how swedes would repel the martian invasion.


39 posted on 10/02/2010 8:10:51 AM PDT by 2-phase_moose
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To: WesternCulture

And what will WE do when London, Paris, and Amsterdam are all attacked by islamic extremists in the next few weeks?

We will wring our hands and Hollywood will have a telethon. They will call for a complete withdrawal from the middle east.

Funny how a few different words in a headline can make such a significant change in the answer.


40 posted on 10/02/2010 8:24:13 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (We are so screwed.)
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To: WesternCulture
What a funny topic!

1. At first, the Finns were defeated at 1940. The USSR got the territories it had wanted. It's casualties were high, that's undebateable, but the war's targets were met. I don't remember Finland receiving a military help from the UK or whoever else.

2. The Central European Hitler did actually defeated Northmen Norvegians during the WWII.

3. Sweden preferred to stand neutral to showing its war face (on any side). Why would it go for a first strike this time?

4. No UK, no any other European country can stand a nuclear attack alone. If Sweden provokes Russia for a nuclear strike, it drags the USA into the conflict. That's too arrogant for Sweden.

41 posted on 10/04/2010 12:05:04 AM PDT by Freelance Warrior (A Russian.)
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“Sweden preferred to stand neutral”

- In reality, tiny Sweden wasn’t neutral, she was “non-belligerent”

Whatever one calls Sweden’s approach, Finland fought Stalin.

Hard.

The troops of Stalin were crushed, ridiculed and defeated beyond belief by a Nordic army which did not particularly welcome Russian influence on Nordic soil.

Scandinavian hatred of Russia is an institution.


42 posted on 10/04/2010 2:23:40 PM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture

One of the best war movies I’ve ever seen. (And I’ve seen a lot of them).


43 posted on 10/04/2010 2:26:51 PM PDT by dfwgator (Texas Rangers - AL West Champions)
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To: devere

“This thread is totally nuts.”

- Easy to say for someome who lives in Utah.


44 posted on 10/04/2010 2:27:10 PM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture

“This thread is totally nuts.”

“- Easy to say for someome who lives in Utah.”

I’d love to live in Utah. It has very beautiful scenery, and a remarkable wooden hall with perfect acoustics. Frank Lloyd Wright called the Salt Lake Tabernacle “one of the architectural masterpieces of the country and perhaps the world.”

Putin is brutal and devious, but not at all crazy. Have you seen a picture of his mistress? Believe me, Vlad Putin is not in any hurry to die.

If Stockholm gets blown up it will be done by some Muslim refugee who was given asylum by the soft-headed Swedes. Ahmadinejad will give him a bomb to test on Stockholm, so they know it will work on Tel Aviv.


45 posted on 10/04/2010 3:14:15 PM PDT by devere
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In reality, tiny Sweden wasn’t neutral, she was “non-belligerent”

Who cares? Sweden hasn't been a military power in any way for two centuries. No it comes up pretending.

The troops of Stalin were crushed, ridiculed and defeated beyond belief by a Nordic army which did not particularly welcome Russian influence on Nordic soil.

Read the peace treaty conditions:
The Moscow Peace Treaty was signed on 12 March 1940 and went into effect the following day. Finland ceded a portion of Karelia – the entire Karelian Isthmus as well as a large swath of land north of Lake Ladoga. The area included Finland's second largest city of Viipuri, much of Finland's industrialised territory, and significant parts still held by Finland's army—all in all, 11% of the territory and 30% of the economic assets of pre-war Finland.[1]:18 Twelve percent of Finland's population, some 422,000 Karelians, were evacuated and lost their homes.[27]:142–143[65]

Finland also had to cede a part of the region of Salla, the Kalastajansaarento peninsula in the Barents Sea, and four islands in the Gulf of Finland. The Hanko Peninsula was leased to the Soviet Union as a military base for 30 years. The region of Petsamo, captured by the Red Army during the war, was returned to Finland according to the treaty.

Was Stalin (the USSR, Russia, whatever you like) really crushed with such results?

Scandinavian hatred of Russia is an institution.

Probably, but who cares? Scandinavians deal with Russia eagerly, what they say in their private kitchens is their private business.

46 posted on 10/04/2010 11:53:27 PM PDT by Freelance Warrior (A Russian.)
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>What a funny topic!

1. At first, the Finns were defeated at 1940. The USSR got the territories it had wanted. It’s casualties were high, that’s undebateable, but the war’s targets were met. I don’t remember Finland receiving a military help from the UK or whoever else.

2. The Central European Hitler did actually defeated Northmen Norvegians during the WWII.

3. Sweden preferred to stand neutral to showing its war face (on any side). Why would it go for a first strike this time?

4. No UK, no any other European country can stand a nuclear attack alone. If Sweden provokes Russia for a nuclear strike, it drags the USA into the conflict. That’s too arrogant for Sweden.>

You ‘ve forgot to mention Sweden is among a World powers of it’s days failed to obvilion after messing with Russia, just like Napoleonic France or Hitler’s Reich. It was 300+ year ago.


47 posted on 10/06/2010 5:24:19 AM PDT by cunning_fish
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You ‘ve forgot to mention Sweden is among a World powers of it’s days failed to obvilion after messing with Russia, just like Napoleonic France or Hitler’s Reich. It was 300+ year ago.

Well, I wanted to be considerate... Remembering past discussions, I could never get why our collegue WesternCulture was so fond of Charles XII, who lost their Empire while being so neutral to Gustavus Adolphus, who had built it.

48 posted on 10/07/2010 12:11:09 AM PDT by Freelance Warrior (A Russian.)
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To: WesternCulture; James C. Bennett

Sweden taking on Russia by itself ...with nuclear weapons involved ...and winning. It sounds remarkably like what I’ve seen in Pakistani forums about how JF17s in the hands of Pakistani pilots can take down American F-15Cs. Sweden has a LOT to be proud of, but facing off against a nuke-wielding Russia is simply above its paygrade. Also, this has to be one of the weirdest vanities in quite some time. Good for a laugh though - thanks


49 posted on 10/12/2010 3:22:32 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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“Sweden taking on Russia by itself”

- You talk like the major Russian cities are out of reach for the Swedish military forces.

Do you honestly believe they are?


50 posted on 10/13/2010 11:02:52 AM PDT by WesternCulture
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