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The Unraveling Of ObamaCare
IBD Editorials ^ | October 8, 2010 | Investors Business Daily staff

Posted on 10/08/2010 5:13:35 PM PDT by Kaslin

Regulation: Thirty companies and organizations get waivers from the new health care overhaul because otherwise they'd have to raise rates or drop coverage. The president said neither would happen. Hey, where's our waiver?

When McDonald's told federal regulators in a recent memo that it would be "economically prohibitive" for its insurance carrier to continue to cover its 30,000 hourly workers unless it received a waiver from the ObamaCare requirement that 80% of premiums for such minimed plans be spent on medical care, alarm bells went off in the White House.

Suddenly the "affordable health care for Americans" that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi spoke of when she passed a bill no one had read was revealed to be an unaffordable fraud that threatened to throw untold numbers of young workers into the ranks of the uninsured in an already precarious election year.

So now McDonald's has its waiver, for 115,000 workers, not just 30,000. Jack in the Box also has a waiver, as do 28 other companies and organizations. The largest waiver, for 351,000 people, is for, appropriately enough, a union — specifically the United Federation of Teachers Welfare Fund, a New York brotherhood that covers teachers.

The United Agricultural Benefit Trust, a California-based cooperative that provides such low-cost minimal coverage to farmworkers, was allowed to exempt 17,347 workers. Even what has been dubbed RomneyCare gets a waiver, with Massachusetts' universal health coverage bureaucracy getting an exemption for about 5,000 people.

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1 posted on 10/08/2010 5:13:37 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

obamacare wheels


2 posted on 10/08/2010 5:16:09 PM PDT by FrankR (You are only obligated to obama to the extent you accept his handouts.)
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To: Kaslin

Would I be incorrect in asking why the “equal protection” clause would not apply to those not given a waiver?


3 posted on 10/08/2010 5:18:11 PM PDT by RangerM (How do we know that man doesn't keep the Earth from freezing?)
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To: Kaslin

What really ticks me off about ObamaCare is that the lowlife bass turds who demanded it be passed (union scum) are now demanding that they be exempted from the damage it is going to cause to Americans’ healthcare. Somebody needs to go to jail.


4 posted on 10/08/2010 5:19:40 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Furlough the Congress!)
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To: Kaslin

The less insurance the better. Any coverage more than catastrophic coverage is a major source of our problems. Slowly but surely, employers are eliminating the old-fashiioned Cadillac policies, so there is some progress. If we can get insurance companies and the government (Medicare, Medicaid) out of health care, health care costs will become manageable again.


5 posted on 10/08/2010 5:24:41 PM PDT by Walts Ice Pick
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To: Kaslin

These are fraudulent exemptions which will be reneged on as soon as the real plan goes into effect.

They just don’t want bad news right now. Wait. This will be rescinded in a couple of years.


6 posted on 10/08/2010 5:24:50 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Somebody needs to go to jail.

About 435 congrescritters, 100 senators and at least two in the executive department. After the scotus speaks I'll let you know about the other 9.

7 posted on 10/08/2010 5:31:27 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Kaslin

The list begins. Those not on the list are on the other list...the Cattle-Car list.


8 posted on 10/08/2010 5:33:42 PM PDT by Varsity Flight
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To: Don Corleone

Americans need to demand that if we are going to have to suffer the destruction of Obamacare, the unions should also be forced to share in the misery and destruction. After all, the unions are the commie piggies who demanded that Obamacare be passed.


9 posted on 10/08/2010 5:34:17 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Furlough the Congress!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

You’re way behind. They are excempt from it


10 posted on 10/08/2010 5:35:07 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

Well, I just read where the “teachers’” union is now demanding to be exempt. They were some of the biggest whiners that it be passed.


11 posted on 10/08/2010 5:40:32 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Furlough the Congress!)
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To: Kaslin

Where is our exemption from this law. Are not our 14th amendment guarantees of equal abuse under the law being violated?


12 posted on 10/08/2010 5:48:30 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: RangerM

Of course you cannot ask such a question!

The damn law says something like 100 times “the Secretary shall decide” or “the Secretary shall make the rule” — there is no equal rights under the law anymore. It is all payment to government-favored groups. “A nation of laws, not men”?? Ha! That is such a joke.


13 posted on 10/08/2010 5:49:53 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: pnh102
Are not our 14th amendment guarantees of equal abuse under the law being violated?

We have only to look at affirmative action to know the answer to that question. Regulatory favoritism isn't even as PC as that, and has been around longer.

14 posted on 10/08/2010 5:52:24 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (/s, in case you need to ask)
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To: Kaslin

I don’t care who gets what as long as I GET MY PONY!!! WHERE’S MY PONY!!!!


15 posted on 10/08/2010 5:52:56 PM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: Kaslin

All as designed. If you want to stay in business, you will have to get on the obamanation’s good side. It’s called fascism. See Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged, for a description. Or Nazi Germany and the USSR.


16 posted on 10/08/2010 5:53:22 PM PDT by piytar (There is evil. There is no such thing as moderate evil. Never forget.)
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To: RangerM
Would I be incorrect in asking why the “equal protection” clause would not apply to those not given a waiver?

That's in the Constitution, right? How quaint. Here's a little hat with a propeller on it; don't say we never gave you anything.

17 posted on 10/08/2010 6:10:45 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: randog
I don’t care who gets what as long as I GET MY PONY!!! WHERE’S MY PONY!!!!

Just keep digging...there's a pony in there somewhere.

(And if you believe THAT....)

18 posted on 10/08/2010 6:25:47 PM PDT by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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To: randog

Zero sent it to the glue factory.


19 posted on 10/08/2010 6:27:12 PM PDT by Politicalmom (A BIG TENT analogy isnÂ’t the correct one. The correct one is a MAGNET. -Fred Thompson)
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To: Kaslin

Soon the only people not exempt from Obamacare will be non-union, straight, white males ... and each one will have their own personal IRS agent assigned to them to make sure they pay up.


20 posted on 10/08/2010 6:30:54 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Walts Ice Pick

“If we can get insurance companies and the government (Medicare, Medicaid) out of health care, health care costs will become manageable again.”

Hear! Hear!

You’ve hit it square on the head... This whole ugly business of double digit inflation in health care costs didn’t start until the Feds got involved, back in the 50’s and 60’s, along with the stupid a$$ unions demanding ‘perks’ in negotiations (and the idiot companies that caved in to their demands).


21 posted on 10/08/2010 6:34:41 PM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Isn’t there a new prison out West that can accommodate a few of these crooks?


22 posted on 10/08/2010 7:04:04 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: spodefly

You left out the old geezers and the disabled on the death panel lists.


23 posted on 10/08/2010 7:06:29 PM PDT by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, retired Military, disabled & Seniors)
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To: freekitty

— Isn’t there a new prison out West that can accommodate a few of these crooks? —

We could build another Hoover Dam size wall 2 miles down steam. That might be suitable.


24 posted on 10/08/2010 7:13:51 PM PDT by ResearchMonkey (commie goo every where.)
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To: Nachum; markomalley; Carlucci; grey_whiskers; meyer; WL-law; Para-Ord.45; 70th Division; ...

Ping


25 posted on 10/08/2010 7:37:38 PM PDT by raptor22 (The truth will set us free)
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To: piytar

Amazing how all those who called George Bush a fascist voted in a REAL fascist to succeed him. American voters on average have about as much sense as a domesticated turkey.


26 posted on 10/08/2010 7:39:47 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Clem Hussein Kadiddlehopper would be a vast improvement.)
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To: Kaslin

27 posted on 10/08/2010 7:42:50 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I love BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Venturer
According to Rush today, the waivers are only good for one year.
28 posted on 10/08/2010 8:07:09 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: RangerM

Would I be incorrect in asking why the “equal protection” clause would not apply to those not given a waiver?

I was wondering the same thing. To try to govern this way is outrageous and certainly not constitutional. Why aren’t there more lawsuits?


29 posted on 10/08/2010 8:14:31 PM PDT by Joan Kerrey
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To: Kaslin

Stay Healthy, my friends!

30 posted on 10/08/2010 8:28:38 PM PDT by granite (those who foolishly sought power by riding the back of the tiger ended up inside - JFK)
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To: Kaslin
Our group premiums go up 18% next year and we have yet to find out what benefits will be reduced and by how much..
31 posted on 10/08/2010 8:40:08 PM PDT by oyez (The difference in genius and stupidity is that genius has limits.)
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To: pnh102

Where is our exemption from this law. Are not our 14th amendment guarantees of equal abuse under the law being violated?
BINGO!! Commerce clause exemptions are all inclusive.


32 posted on 10/08/2010 8:40:54 PM PDT by o_zarkman44 ("When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Kaslin

The Democrats passed a bill that they didn’t even read, just like the stimulus bill. 2,000 pages of doubletalk. And they give the head of the Dept of Health & Human Services the power to apply or waive the law as she sees fit.

Irresponsible, arrogant scoundrels. That’s what we have in the House and Senate. The pigs of Animal Farm.


33 posted on 10/08/2010 9:40:07 PM PDT by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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To: Kaslin

Wait till people start getting taxed for their health insurance benefits. Talk about a voter uprising!


34 posted on 10/08/2010 9:41:55 PM PDT by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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To: Kaslin
Hey, where's our waiver?

I've got a note from my mother that says I don't have to participate in Obamacare...

35 posted on 10/08/2010 10:06:20 PM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Caipirabob

Worked for me in the 70’s. It was remarkable how her penmanship changed so drastically.


36 posted on 10/08/2010 10:09:41 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: ResearchMonkey

LOL


37 posted on 10/09/2010 12:06:38 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: randog
I don’t care who gets what as long as I GET MY PONY!!! WHERE’S MY PONY!!!!

Well, all this horse shit strongly implies there must be one here somewhere. Keep looking.

38 posted on 10/09/2010 1:08:31 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: hinckley buzzard

There ya go, and why are they waivered?? To get him past this election. Not that it will help.


39 posted on 10/09/2010 3:49:35 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: pnh102

“Where is our exemption from this law?”

Why would you want to be exempt from such a brilliant, compassionate, wonderful law that gives everyone free healthcare?

/S/


40 posted on 10/09/2010 4:46:53 AM PDT by ripley
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Why would you want to be exempt from such a brilliant, compassionate, wonderful law that gives everyone free healthcare?

I know. I must be one of those evil racists. LOL.

Here is my idea for health care reform. Give anyone who wants taxpayer financed health care a one way first class plane ticket to the foreign country of his or her choice in exchange of said person's passport. The person's passport would be replaced with a travel document that forbids entry into the USA.

41 posted on 10/09/2010 4:53:01 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: pnh102

“Here is my idea for health care reform. Give anyone who wants taxpayer financed helath care a one way first class plane ticket to the foreign country of his or her choice in exchange of said person’s passport. The peron’s passport would be replaced with a travel document that forbids entry into the USA.”

One wonders what country any of those “free” healthcare advocates would choose.


42 posted on 10/09/2010 5:17:34 AM PDT by ripley
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To: Joan Kerrey

What is a law if one unelected bureaucrat can exempt you from it?


43 posted on 10/09/2010 6:08:07 AM PDT by RangerM (How do we know that man doesn't keep the Earth from freezing?)
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To: randog

I GET MY PONY!!! WHERE’S MY PONY!!!!”

Got a nice 3 y/o purebred Arabian stud colt in the paddock behind the house. Not free, tho. He is now ‘rose grey’ & he will grey out as an adult. Witez/El Tio/Kosciusko/Gulastra bloodlines.


44 posted on 10/09/2010 12:10:30 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: RipSawyer

“American voters on average have about as much sense as a domesticated turkey.”

Thank the democrat socialists and the NEA. It’s intentional; uneducated people are easier to subjugate.


45 posted on 10/09/2010 12:16:46 PM PDT by piytar (There is evil. There is no such thing as moderate evil. Never forget.)
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To: Kaslin

...******that threatened to throw untold numbers of young workers into the ranks of the uninsured in an already precarious election year. *****

Which is also why the college group got their age 26 exemption, because it’s their main voting base, and a base that they know can bring back the Kent State era.


46 posted on 10/09/2010 12:26:42 PM PDT by Varsity Flight
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To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; ...
Thanks Kaslin. For that matter, the unraveling of Obama.
Thirty companies and organizations get waivers from the new health care overhaul because otherwise they'd have to raise rates or drop coverage. The president said neither would happen. Hey, where's our waiver? ...from the ObamaCare requirement that 80% of premiums for such minimed plans be spent on medical care... the "affordable health care for Americans" that... Pelosi spoke of... a bill no one had read was revealed to be an unaffordable fraud that threatened to throw untold numbers of young workers into the ranks of the uninsured... McDonald's has its waiver, for 115,000... Jack in the Box also has a waiver... 28 other companies and organizations... 351,000 [of] the United Federation of Teachers Welfare Fund... The United Agricultural Benefit Trust, a California-based cooperative that provides such low-cost minimal coverage to farmworkers... to exempt 17,347... Massachusetts' [Romneycare] bureaucracy... about 5,000 people.

47 posted on 10/09/2010 6:26:24 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: Still Thinking; randog

“I don’t care who gets what as long as I GET MY PONY!!! WHERE’S MY PONY!!!!”

“Well, all this horse shit strongly implies there must be one here somewhere. Keep looking.”

You two owe me a key board. This old timer is still laughing. THis is some series times. But, thanks again for the laughs.


48 posted on 10/09/2010 6:38:54 PM PDT by DeadFurrow (Your rights end where mine begins.)
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To: Walts Ice Pick

....”If we can get insurance companies and the government (Medicare, Medicaid) out of health care, health care costs will become manageable again.”

Absolutely. It’s government beginning in I believe it was 1965 with Teddy Kennedy at the helm of the Oldsmobile named Medicare that began this journey off the side of the bridge.

He’s gone, along with his BS, and we have to take the Kennedy residue out of government, and do it as soon as we can.


49 posted on 10/09/2010 6:49:41 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Rocky

“Irresponsible, arrogant scoundrels. That’s what we have in the House and Senate.”

Indeed.


50 posted on 10/09/2010 7:41:22 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone
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