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Ron Paul: Collapse Of The USA A Good Thing (What?!)
mah29001 ^

Posted on 10/11/2010 10:14:24 AM PDT by big black dog

And get this…Ron Paul says this in all in the name of the “promotion” of the U.S. Constitution…that’s right…because he wants to be a proponent of the U.S. Constitution the USA must collapse. What?!

The fantasy of every PaulBot is quite a dangerous fantasy it is no different from the fantasies of your overt run of the mill Leftists and Communists whom desire for a Socialist Revolution within the United States as the “solution” for the economic crisis. Ron Paul’s followers literally live in a cartoon world just like their Leftist/Communist counterparts…some of these Leftists like Naomi Wolf even endorse Ron Paul on top of that to make matters worse and also the Kremlin-run Russia Today also endorses Ron Paul as well.

How is this a reasonable solution for the economic mess that the USA is in and the rest of the world is also in? Ron Paul and his crazy PaulBots have provided NO SOLUTIONS at all to the economic mess and instead they go out in a zombie-like formation like some badly written horror film demanding that their causes be implemented or else…and just like their Leftist and Communist counterparts it’s going to end in a big disaster that WOULD collapse the USA and give it that extra push to do so.

The PaulBots and their leader Ron Paul will be no different than the effect of what Obama and his ObamaBots are already doing…in fact they might just make things a thousand times worse…


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: libertarian; ronpaul

1 posted on 10/11/2010 10:14:26 AM PDT by big black dog
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To: big black dog

True Paulbots are just as bad as Obamabots.


2 posted on 10/11/2010 10:16:20 AM PDT by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: big black dog

Somebody call that man a doctor!


3 posted on 10/11/2010 10:16:35 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: big black dog

What you don’t understand is that in the current mess we find ourselves in we could collapse politically.


4 posted on 10/11/2010 10:23:35 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: big black dog
Ron Paul despises the US Constitution, which is why he tries to undermine it with his anti-Constitutional "states' rights" rhetoric.

He is simply a less-intelligent, more-dishonest follower of the more strident Anti-Federalist opponents of our Constitution.

5 posted on 10/11/2010 10:24:12 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: big black dog
The Soviet Union collapsed because none were permitted to profit.

The United States will collapse because none are permitted to fail.

6 posted on 10/11/2010 10:25:35 AM PDT by mmercier (The great reckoning)
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To: big black dog

Where is the actual Paul quote? Link leads to a blog which leads nowhere.


7 posted on 10/11/2010 10:25:53 AM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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To: big black dog

he’s talking about he current corrupt system needs to collapse before we can have an honest system to replace it. Its like the USSSR needs to collapse before they could have something to replace it


8 posted on 10/11/2010 10:26:07 AM PDT by 4rcane
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To: mmercier

Agreed. The trashing on RP on this site is ridiculous when it turns to econ issues.

We simply can’ty sustain the nation as is.


9 posted on 10/11/2010 10:27:04 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote
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To: big black dog

ibtz


10 posted on 10/11/2010 10:27:48 AM PDT by Cruising Speed
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To: big black dog

He seems determined to undermine his son’s electoral success.


11 posted on 10/11/2010 10:32:40 AM PDT by Carley (For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: GlockThe Vote
We are already shot through the heart, we just did not feel the hit.

The walking dead stumble on quite a while sometimes.

12 posted on 10/11/2010 10:37:29 AM PDT by mmercier (The damage done...)
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To: big black dog
Ewwwww! I can almost feel the spittle from this guys foaming mouth flinging through my monitor.

Now, I'm not a Ron Paul fan, but he's useful from time to time. Certainly not worthy of the type of snarling, foaming-mouth rabidity that the author is displaying in his rant. I recommend a nice merlot or two while listening to Bach's "Sheep may safely graze."..After that, one can rationally discuss the problems with Paul's political positions without appearing to be insane.....

13 posted on 10/11/2010 10:40:32 AM PDT by RepRivFarm ("During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." -George Orwell)
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To: big black dog

Paulbots are awful. These people don’t confine themselves to being annoying on political websites either. You have to weed through Paulbot crap pretty much everywhere - gaming forums, sports boards, etc. They are a bit like Larouchies - perhaps not as crazy, but equally obnoxious.


14 posted on 10/11/2010 10:41:39 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: big black dog

Ron Paul is crazy, but this writer is atrocious. Starts with “And,” ends with elipses, and includes run-on sentence after run-on sentence. Not to mention that he never develops a coherent argument. Take a writing course!


15 posted on 10/11/2010 10:44:33 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: big black dog
Obsess much?

If you're having trouble affording your meds, let us know and maybe we can help.

16 posted on 10/11/2010 10:45:51 AM PDT by LIBERTARIAN JOE (Don't blame me - I voted for Ron Paul!)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Somebody call that man a doctor!

OK. Dr. Ron Paul!

Not that I'd trust him as such...

17 posted on 10/11/2010 10:47:30 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: big black dog

There are major flaws in Libertarian philosophy.

They are not particularly patriotic.

They are also pretty much anti-military, except for a sort of Switzerland model. Which has worked out fairly nicely for Switzerland, but it would have been nice to have their help through a few world wars. Including this one.

It’s easy to be ‘defense only’ as long as a big boy like America is handling the situations with its wealth and its blood.

Then there are the social issues, which make the Democrats look rather prudish at times. At least Mr. Paul is pro-life, as he recognizes the unborn human being as human. So a Libertarian can be consistently pro-life, if he acknowledges the humanity of the unborn.


18 posted on 10/11/2010 10:51:20 AM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: big black dog

How about quoting what Ron Paul said? Preferably in context.


19 posted on 10/11/2010 10:51:55 AM PDT by kevao
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To: Persevero
At least Mr. Paul is pro-life, as he recognizes the unborn human being as human. So a Libertarian can be consistently pro-life, if he acknowledges the humanity of the unborn.

Paul says that, and then devotes his life to promoting a pro-abortion libertarian agenda, and a pro-abortion party.

The libertarian goal is an America where abortion is totally unrestrained or limited.

20 posted on 10/11/2010 11:13:44 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

“Paul says that, and then devotes his life to promoting a pro-abortion libertarian agenda, and a pro-abortion party.”

You make a good point. I could not in good conscience do what he does.


21 posted on 10/11/2010 11:20:28 AM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: big black dog

Ron Paul, in case you haven’t been paying attention, your son Rand happens to be in a very tight race for Senator in Kentucky. Would you PLEASE kindly STFU until after the election????


22 posted on 10/11/2010 11:22:54 AM PDT by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: big black dog

In hindsight Ronny could be right....we need to rebuild the nation and in order to build the foundation the right way, the nation has to implode within or reach rock bottom.


23 posted on 10/11/2010 12:21:38 PM PDT by max americana (Hoax and Chains, Dopeychangey)
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To: ansel12
Paul says that, and then devotes his life to promoting a pro-abortion libertarian agenda, and a pro-abortion party.

The libertarian goal is an America where abortion is totally unrestrained or limited

You need to take a laxative.

You are dangerously chock full o'feces, and it is spilling out across your keyboard.

Both Ron and Rand Paul have as their defining principle the supreme value of human life.

Both Ron and Rand are Republicans, and stay within the party so as to be effective insiders, instead of irrelevant outsiders. If you're going lie about someone, at least choose BS that can't be debunked with a single Google search.


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24 posted on 10/11/2010 12:29:14 PM PDT by The Comedian (Keep talking while I reload...)
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To: The Comedian

After you wash your mouth out with soap, look up Ron Paul and his support, leadership, and mainstreaming of libertarianism.

You may even find out that besides just being a darling of, and the face of libertarianism, that Ron Paul has even run to lead the United States of America as a Libertarian President, he was leader of that pro-abortion party and it’s party platform.


25 posted on 10/11/2010 12:55:16 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ClearCase_guy
Somebody call that man a doctor!

There have been people who have called him a doctor, but why would anybody call someone a doctor who insists a teenage girl be allowed to cross state lines in order to kill her unborn child?
26 posted on 10/11/2010 1:29:28 PM PDT by John D
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To: ansel12
Lying twice doesn't make your lie any more truthful.

Here, this is called a "citation". Try using one to support your bovine fecal assertions:

Being Pro-Life Is Necessary to Defend Liberty by Ron Paul, 1981.

Now try to refrain from lying as you read this brief excerpt:

A libertarian's support for abortion is not merely a minor misapplication of principle, as if one held an incorrect belief about the Austrian theory of the business cycle. The issue of abortion is fundamental, and therefore an incorrect view of the issue strikes at the very foundations of all beliefs.


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27 posted on 10/11/2010 1:39:10 PM PDT by The Comedian (Keep talking while I reload...)
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To: The Comedian
Personal attacks are not an argument, this is. At least Mr. Paul is pro-life, as he recognizes the unborn human being as human. So a Libertarian can be consistently pro-life, if he acknowledges the humanity of the unborn.

"Paul says that, and then devotes his life to promoting a pro-abortion libertarian agenda, and a pro-abortion party.

The libertarian goal is an America where abortion is totally unrestrained or limited."

A Texas politician that is a pro-lifer promoting and leading a determinedly pro-abortion party and party platform seems very Romneyesque.

Most pro-lifers would want to keep the pro-abortion Libertarian party, as far away from power and respectability as possible, not embrace them, and emerge as their national leader and current, top salesman.

28 posted on 10/11/2010 2:10:31 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12
I said "cite", and you repeated your unfounded assertion and personal slur against Ron Paul.

I gave you an example of a cite which countered your unfounded assertion, which you ignored, and repeated your unfounded assertion and personal slur.

You're either illiterate, or purposefully obtuse.

Either way, I can't convince you that Ron Paul didn't write the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, so just keep believing whatever garbage you've convinced yourself of, and don't let facts get in your way.

And get used to being laughed at by people who can read.


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Smiling takes 6.
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29 posted on 10/11/2010 2:47:59 PM PDT by The Comedian (Keep talking while I reload...)
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To: The Comedian

You aren’t aware that Ron Paul was in the proabortion, Libertarian party, and became the leader of that proabortion party, and ran for President representing the proabortion Libertarian Party and it’s proabortion Platform?

You aren’t aware that Ron Paul is still the most recognized face and voice promoting Libertarians?


30 posted on 10/11/2010 3:10:04 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

cite (st)
tr.v. cit·ed, cit·ing, cites
1. To quote as an authority or example.
2. To mention or bring forward as support, illustration, or proof: cited several instances of insubordinate behavior.
3.
a. To commend officially for meritorious action in military service.
b. To honor formally.
4. To summon before a court of law.


31 posted on 10/11/2010 3:23:37 PM PDT by The Comedian (Keep talking while I reload...)
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To: ansel12
Hey, I think RP is nuts in too many ways, but I always thought RP was pro-life.

Do you have any links other than to say he was libertarian?

32 posted on 10/11/2010 3:28:54 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Lakeshark; The Comedian
I never said that Paul doesn't claim to be pro-life, don't people read the thread? In post 21, you can see that the person I posted to, clearly understood my point.

To: Persevero
At least Mr. Paul is pro-life, as he recognizes the unborn human being as human. So a Libertarian can be consistently pro-life, if he acknowledges the humanity of the unborn.

Paul says that, and then devotes his life to promoting a pro-abortion libertarian agenda, and a pro-abortion party.
The libertarian goal is an America where abortion is totally unrestrained or limited.
20 posted on Monday, October 11, 2010 11:13:44 AM by ansel12

33 posted on 10/11/2010 3:52:47 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12
Dr Ron Paul is/was an ob/gyn and has delivered untold numbers of babies. Maybe he was an abortionist on the side, I never thought about that.
34 posted on 10/11/2010 3:59:13 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: ansel12

il·lit·er·ate (-ltr-t)
adj.
1.
a. Unable to read and write.
b. Having little or no formal education.
2.
a. Marked by inferiority to an expected standard of familiarity with language and literature.
b. Violating prescribed standards of speech or writing.
3. Ignorant of the fundamentals of a given art or branch of knowledge.


35 posted on 10/11/2010 3:59:55 PM PDT by The Comedian (Keep talking while I reload...)
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To: Ditter

Well, this is true, so we know something about his commitment to life.

“You aren’t aware that Ron Paul was in the proabortion, Libertarian party, and became the leader of that proabortion party, and ran for President representing the proabortion Libertarian Party and it’s proabortion Platform?

You aren’t aware that Ron Paul is still the most recognized face and voice promoting Libertarians?”


36 posted on 10/11/2010 4:02:46 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12
I knew the libertarian part just had never heard his pro abort stance. We lived in his district and met him back when he ran for his first office. We didn't like him then and we don't like him now. Not surprising that we tuned him out.
37 posted on 10/11/2010 4:09:35 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter

Ron Paul is one of those little politicians that desperately needs to be seen and noticed, there is a reason though, why he could never escape the confines of his little congressional district.

Paul could never succeed in winning enough voters to win a nomination to the Senate, Governor was of course unattainable for such a nut case, so naturally, he keeps running to be President of the United States of America, and the most powerful man on earth.


38 posted on 10/11/2010 4:23:52 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

What’s the old joke?

There is a political rally at the park.

Paulbot: (At microphone, trying to pretend he is NOT a socialist): “Come the revolution, YOU, the people, will have ALL the power! RON PAUL UNDERSTANDS YOU!! JUST VOTE FOR HIM!!

Paulbot: (Ignoring all evidence to the contrary) “Ron Paul is STRONG on Defense! Who care’s if we have a military or not? WE DON’T NEED ONE! Why, it’s agan the constitution!

Paulbot: “Dr. Paul” is soooo cool. When he is Fuhrer, Life will be grand!

Paulbot: Come the REVOLUTION, rich or poor, will no longer matter! YOU, the people, will OWN everything!

Paulbot: (Screaming now) Come the REVOLUTION, you will all be free! Not “slaves” like you are now!

....Suddenly, a rich couple rides their horse’s through the park....

Paulbot: Did you see that? Them rich a@@holes. Riding their horse’s? It’s unfair! How can they be rich! and you be poor??

Paulbot: (voice rising) Come the REVOLUTION, it will NOT be like this! We will take those horse’s away from them rich people, and give them to you the real people!

(A voice from the third row): But I don’t want to ride horse’s!

Paulbot: (foaming at mouth) “COME THE REVOLUTION YOU WILL DO AS YOU ARE TOLD!”


39 posted on 10/22/2010 12:52:20 AM PDT by Mtner77
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