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Lucille Ball, a Beautiful Genius, Major Talent and Communist Party Member
Crime File News ^ | 10/9/10

Posted on 10/11/2010 7:54:08 PM PDT by FromLori

Hollywood, CA—I just finished watching another great Henry Hathaway, film noir classic, The Dark Corner (1946) starring Lucille Ball, Mark Stevens and Clifton Webb. Mark Steven’s plays a recently paroled private eye trying to rebuild his life and business. Ball plays the private dick’s new secretary. After the PI is targeted and endangered in a somewhat convoluted scheme, Ball’s clever character comes to his rescue at every opportunity. This film is available for instant play if you’ve got a Netflix account.

As a long time real life PI, I can’t imagine the luck of having a secretary like that in a million years. Together they overcome amazing odds and in case you’ve never seen the film I won’t spoil it be revealing the ending.

In The Dark Corner, Ball was a stunning 35 year-old looker that appeared much younger. Her grace, charm and acting were terrific. This is amazing in spite of the fact that Ball left, The John Murray Anderson School for the Dramatic Arts in New York City after only a few weeks. He acting coaches told Ball she had no talent!

As a child I grew up with a family TV show, I Love Lucy. It had its comic moments but it was more a comic soap opera of sorts in the lives of two couples, the Ricardo’s and the Mertz’s. Lucy was always up to mischief that usually backfired to the chagrin of her real life husband Desi.

Ball died in 1989 at age 77, when a recently repaired aorta ruptured. Aging and death is most unfair but the truth is we’re all in this together and none of us will get out alive.

What I really did not know was Ball’s age. She was already in her 40’s when she began her, I Love Lucy series. Her first husband Desi Arnez was seven years her junior.

This famous TV pioneer couple made entertainment history beginning with the three camera shoot of their series. With three cameras, scenes could be shot and edited together saving countless hours of setups and retakes.

Together they formed Desilou Productions and that led to many thousands of hours of programming that still seen and enjoyed today all over the world. Their 20 year marriage was volatile and finally ended after their second divorce filing in 1960. It’s always been said by their biographers that their love for each other never really waned, they just had difficulties mostly attributed to Desi that could not be overcome.

Not that long ago I had to do some business with Kelsey Grammar’s production company, Gramnet which was at the time located in the Lucille Ball Bungalow at Paramount Studios in Hollywood. I suspect the name Lucille Ball will be repeated hundreds of years after her death. She was indeed an artist.

When doing a little research for this story I learned that Ball actually joined the Communist Party and registered to vote that way in her earlier days. Ball’s politics were as red as her hair. The Communists always recruited members heavily in Hollywood because they knew that movie stars influence the masses. That still is the case today for sure.

The funny thing about Hollywood’s Communists, they all made huge fortunes through Capitalism. I will never be able to figure out that paradox.


TOPICS: History; Miscellaneous; Music/Entertainment; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: ball; commievote; communist; hollywood
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1 posted on 10/11/2010 7:54:14 PM PDT by FromLori
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To: FromLori

I thought this was common knowledge


2 posted on 10/11/2010 7:58:41 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: FromLori
I don't think Lucille Ball had more than a passing interest in Communism. Ball was a kick-ass businesswoman. I think she simply, dopily attended a few meetings when she was young and it was fashionable.
3 posted on 10/11/2010 7:59:34 PM PDT by utahagen
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To: FromLori
Ball’s politics were as red as her hair.

Her politics came out of a bottle?

4 posted on 10/11/2010 8:00:44 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: FromLori

Yeah, unfortunately, Lucy was a commie. As I recall, she said she became one just as a favor to her father, uncle, or some other family member. Whatever the case, at least she wasn’t a proselytizing commie like Chaplin, Fonda, Clooney, Robbins, or some of the others.


5 posted on 10/11/2010 8:01:28 PM PDT by hampdenkid
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To: FromLori
Lucy's excuse was that she joined the Communist Party at the behest of her grandfather on his deathbed.

I don't think she did any harm. In fact, without her, "Star Trek" never would have aired.

I'm inclined to give Lucy a break.

6 posted on 10/11/2010 8:01:47 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: FromLori

The Communists recruited in Hollywood then for the same reason the Scientologists do now: the people are dumb, rootless and rich.


7 posted on 10/11/2010 8:02:07 PM PDT by babble-on
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To: FromLori
Lucille Ball, a Beautiful Genius, Major Talent and Communist Party Member

Well, at least now she's a "good" commie.

8 posted on 10/11/2010 8:03:05 PM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: FromLori

..also early in her career was in a Three Stooges short “Three Little Pigskins”


9 posted on 10/11/2010 8:03:05 PM PDT by Doogle (IT'S THAT TIME AGAIN....PLEASE donate, because it's the RIGHT thing to do)
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To: hampdenkid

Henry Fonda was a commie too?


10 posted on 10/11/2010 8:03:58 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (Defund, repeal, investigate, impeach, convict, jail, celebrate.)
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To: FromLori

Read here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucille_Ball#Testimony_Before_the_House_Committee_on_Un-American_Activities

She was far too much a businesswoman to be a real communist.


11 posted on 10/11/2010 8:04:01 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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To: FromLori

Lloyd Bridges too and his idiot son.


12 posted on 10/11/2010 8:06:56 PM PDT by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: HerrBlucher

Ahem, I was referring to Hanoi Jane ... but now that you’ve brought it up, I’ve always felt Henry was, too. Watch “The Oxbow Incident” (a message movie he made to debunk Westerns) and “Twelve Angry Men” (with it’s ghastly portrayal of decent Americans), and you’ll start to understand why both of his kids were commies.


13 posted on 10/11/2010 8:07:06 PM PDT by hampdenkid
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To: FromLori
I call foul! As far as can be proved, and Ball said herself, she never registered as Party member, she just registered to vote for the Communist Party candidate in 1936, at her socialist Grandfather's insistence. That was about the end of it. Even J. Edgar Hoover completely cleared her. As Desi Arnaz said before the taping of an episode of I Love Lucy, "The only thing red about Lucy is her hair, and even that's not legitimate."
14 posted on 10/11/2010 8:07:06 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: buccaneer81

Lucy’s grandfather was communist? didn’t know that. hmmm


15 posted on 10/11/2010 8:07:41 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: HerrBlucher

Oh, I forgot, Jane. Sure am glad that when I see the name Fonda Henry comes to mind first and not Jane.


16 posted on 10/11/2010 8:07:56 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (Defund, repeal, investigate, impeach, convict, jail, celebrate.)
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To: FromLori
Last century, a significant portion of Hollywood talent backed an ideology that killed over one hundred million people.

And yet, they still feel we should value their opinions in this century.

17 posted on 10/11/2010 8:08:09 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: FromLori
I agree with you about Dark Corner, though. It's an underrated picture, and Ball does a great job in a role people wouldn't associate with her.
18 posted on 10/11/2010 8:08:17 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: hampdenkid

Those are some far out takes on The Ox-Bow Incident and ‘Twelve Angry Men’.


19 posted on 10/11/2010 8:10:01 PM PDT by Borges
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To: buccaneer81

Oh like Star Trek does not spew leftist UN like sh*t including the prime directive and how no one in Star Trek ever seems to have money. They all work for the state.


20 posted on 10/11/2010 8:10:01 PM PDT by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: dalebert

He was a socialist.


21 posted on 10/11/2010 8:11:33 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Frantzie

Gene Roddenberry was a decorated bomber pilot during WW2 and wanted Star Trek to be ‘Wagon Train’ to the stars.


22 posted on 10/11/2010 8:11:57 PM PDT by Borges
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To: FromLori

Well, if she was a commie, she was a funny commie.


23 posted on 10/11/2010 8:12:01 PM PDT by Walts Ice Pick
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To: FromLori
I thought Ball had said latter in life that she was completely disinterested in politics during her youth and had been invited to a couple communist party functions not knowing or caring what they stood for. Then she completely forgot about it until years later when her name turned up on a membership list.

Sure she could have just been distancing herself when her involvement came out. But then again, we all did stupid things when we were young without thinking. I think I would give her the benefit of the doubt as she never seemed particularly political to me.

24 posted on 10/11/2010 8:12:55 PM PDT by apillar
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To: dead

It wasn’t just Hollywood it was most of the Arts back then.


25 posted on 10/11/2010 8:13:47 PM PDT by Borges
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To: HerrBlucher

was not jimmy stewart one too?


26 posted on 10/11/2010 8:15:25 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to GOD! Thomas Jefferson)
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To: FromLori
Ball’s politics were as red as her hair.

I thought she was actually blonde. I know her grand-niece.
27 posted on 10/11/2010 8:15:50 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: guitarplayer1953
was not jimmy stewart one too?

He sure looked like one.

28 posted on 10/11/2010 8:16:52 PM PDT by Walts Ice Pick
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To: hampdenkid

Wrong too.


29 posted on 10/11/2010 8:17:06 PM PDT by Borges
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To: hampdenkid

I saw twelve angry men in high school. How is was it anti American citizen? I forget.


30 posted on 10/11/2010 8:21:10 PM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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To: HerrBlucher
Henry Fonda was a commie too?

Yes he was a cell leader.

31 posted on 10/11/2010 8:21:12 PM PDT by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: nickcarraway

then why the excuse to join the communists..lol


32 posted on 10/11/2010 8:22:19 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: FromLori

From what I have heard, she was registered as a communist by her father or grandfather but was never active in the party.


33 posted on 10/11/2010 8:23:37 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27; hampdenkid

It wasn’t at all.


34 posted on 10/11/2010 8:23:53 PM PDT by Borges
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To: guitarplayer1953; Walts Ice Pick

Are you insane? Jimmy Stewart was known as a diehard supporter of the Republican Part, and actively campaigned for Nixon and Reagan. He was was friends with Henry Fonda and Jack Lemmon, who were to the left of him politically, but they weren’t communists.


35 posted on 10/11/2010 8:27:25 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Walts Ice Pick

If I’m not mistaken, Stewart, a midwestern boy, was an outspoken Republican and a conservative.


36 posted on 10/11/2010 8:27:58 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: guitarplayer1953

Stewart was a Republican and a close friend of Sir Ronald..


37 posted on 10/11/2010 8:28:39 PM PDT by fantom (,)
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To: Frantzie

“Oh like Star Trek does not spew leftist UN like sh*t including the prime directive and how no one in Star Trek ever seems to have money. They all work for the state.”

Not in the original series, which Desilu did. The folks on the Enterprise were military, but there were lots of traders and others trying to make a buck (”credits”).


38 posted on 10/11/2010 8:29:04 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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To: nickcarraway
Jimmy Stewart was known as a diehard supporter of the Republican Part

Yeah, he sure looked like one.

I guess that's why he was such a great actor. :)

39 posted on 10/11/2010 8:30:01 PM PDT by Walts Ice Pick
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To: dead

Imagine if there was a “viable” Nazi party in Hollywood. How long do you think that would last, yet we go all soft on real communists like Sean Penn, Danny Glover, Harry Belafonte, ad nauseum. Why did we not LEARN from history that these ideologies KILL people and leave them poor, starving, and without any artistic “freedom”?


40 posted on 10/11/2010 8:31:01 PM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: sasportas; guitarplayer1953; Walts Ice Pick; fantom
James Stewart Republican versus Henry Fonda Democrat
41 posted on 10/11/2010 8:32:34 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: fantom

Reagan was friends with everyone in Hollywood it seems. Lots of friends on the left, yet they really liked the man personally.


42 posted on 10/11/2010 8:33:22 PM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: Frantzie

Lloyd Bridges was a “World Federalist” not a Communist. There is a difference. Keifer Sutherland’s mother and father, Donald Sutherland, are/were communists.


43 posted on 10/11/2010 8:33:22 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: FromLori

“I will never be able to figure out that paradox.”

It makes sense, really.

The answer is that communism (progressivism) is a lie, through and through. Every claim of communism is in fact the opposite of the truth.

The policies of progressivism accomplish the opposite of what they claim.

Karl Marx was apparently a satanist, so I wouldn’t expect anything else.


44 posted on 10/11/2010 8:34:30 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Rules will never work for radicals (liberals) because they seek chaos. And don't even know it.)
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To: Walts Ice Pick

What? Are Republicans supposed to be fat? Adolph Menjou and Ginger Rogers were Republicans too.


45 posted on 10/11/2010 8:35:50 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: guitarplayer1953
was not jimmy stewart one too?

Not likely. He was a decorated pilot that served in WW2 and Vietnam, rose to the rank of Brigadier General. Staunch Republican who supported Reagan. About the most leftist thing he did was call for support of LBJ's 1968 Gun Control Act. But then so did Charlton Heston. Heston of course later made up for this indiscretion by becoming President of the NRA and giving his famous 'from my cold dead hands' speech.

46 posted on 10/11/2010 8:36:32 PM PDT by Jed Eckert
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To: Walts Ice Pick

47 posted on 10/11/2010 8:39:45 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: reasonisfaith

Wasn’t Marx an athetist?


48 posted on 10/11/2010 8:39:57 PM PDT by Borges
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To: guitarplayer1953

Jimmy Stewart was a lifelong Republican as were many/most of the golden era Hollywood stars.


49 posted on 10/11/2010 8:42:59 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: FromLori

In several biographies, its mentioned that she registered as a Communist to please her grandfather (one said it was her grandmother, but her grandfather was the adventurous type) that she lived with after her father died. She apparently wasn’t involved in political activities and forgot about it until McCarthy started ferreting out the Hollywood Reds. She apparently convinced the McCarthy committee that her registration was just that.


50 posted on 10/11/2010 8:45:25 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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