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iPhone 4 glass breaking 82% more than iPhone 3gs - four months in
SquareTrade ^ | October 12, 2010 | SquareTrade

Posted on 10/12/2010 5:46:59 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier

Synopsis: SquareTrade analyzed iPhone accidents for over 20,000 iPhone 4s covered by SquareTrade Care Plans and found a 82% increase in reported broken screens compared to the iPhone 3gs.

Highlights of the study include:

* iPhone 4 owners reported 82% more damaged screens in the first 4 months compared to iPhone 3gs owners.

* Overall, the reported accident rate for iPhone 4s was 68% higher than for the iPhone 3gs.

* An estimated 15.5% of iPhone 4 owners will have an accident within a year of buying their phone.

(Excerpt) Read more at squaretrade.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: apple; glass; iphone; obvious
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Glass on the back was a bad idea... Now you have two pieces to shatter!

And the higher accident rate - I wonder if it's because the back and sides tend to be more slippery than previous versions. Not just the materials, but the shape - highly rectangular shapes tend to not fit as well in the hand, it's harder to grip securely.

1 posted on 10/12/2010 5:47:03 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier
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To: driftdiver; TomServo; for-q-clinton

Ping!


2 posted on 10/12/2010 5:48:37 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
And the higher accident rate - I wonder if it's because the back and sides tend to be more slippery than previous versions.

I think people are trying to grip their iPhones in such a way as to not short out the perimeter antenna, and as a result are losing their grip and dropping them more.

3 posted on 10/12/2010 5:51:17 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

i have ppl on here keep telling me that I don’t know what I’m talking about, apple use “gorilla glass” which is very strong and not easy to break. Yet in real world usage, they break just as easily as any


4 posted on 10/12/2010 5:51:53 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
That can't be happening, because the 4G features Corning Gorilla Glass on the front.
5 posted on 10/12/2010 5:51:56 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: 4rcane

Facts always trump fandom... Apparently the Gorilla glass isn’t as strong as it was touted, OR the design Apple used was less than optimal. Leaving the edges of the glass exposed as it is, leaves me to consider more the latter than the former.

Regardless, it’s pretty irrefutable that the iPhone 4 is more fragile than the previous generations.


6 posted on 10/12/2010 5:59:02 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: Plutarch

uh, the weight of the 4g is heavier, so this translates to more force on the glass when dropped......


7 posted on 10/12/2010 6:00:06 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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To: BereanBrain
3GS is 135 grams, 4 is 137 grams. Are you seriously going to claim that the increase of 2 grams - a 1.5% increase in weight - doubles the crack rate?
8 posted on 10/12/2010 6:04:42 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: BereanBrain; PugetSoundSoldier; Yo-Yo; Plutarch

Lots of good theories on why it breaks more - all seem plausible. This my theory (i have a 3gs). The 3g construction with the plastic side and back has a little bit of flex, and can absorb some of the energy when dropped. The 4 has metal frame and glass back so it is much stiffer and apt to transfer energy to the glass and crack it. Also, the glas it self is a bit more exposed, so it is more likely that an impact will be directly on the glass.


9 posted on 10/12/2010 6:09:32 PM PDT by MrShoop
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

There was an article at Engadget a week or so ago delving into this problem. According to them, there is a problem with certain kinds of cases scratching the glass in such a way as to increase the probability of breakage.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/07/apple-afraid-of-a-shattering-followup-to-its-antennagate-woes/


10 posted on 10/12/2010 6:23:36 PM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: dangerdoc
And not surprisingly, there was a thread here at FR calling it all FUD and lies. Apparently the crack rate IS higher, and it could very well be due to increase scratching of a stronger - but more brittle - material used for the screens.

I'm still holding out that it's a flaw in the way the phone was designed - hard, brittle pieces of glass mounted rigidly and with hard aluminum edges. No shock protection means it is more susceptible to cracking because of increased stresses. Add a few scratches to the glass and you get even more breakage problems...

Don't worry, though, I'm sure this will also be dismissed as FUD...

11 posted on 10/12/2010 6:29:44 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

Its all FUD man


12 posted on 10/12/2010 6:42:24 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Yo-Yo
bingo...
13 posted on 10/12/2010 6:51:21 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
Most of the people who use cell phones need a rope attached to them. The only problem is 15% would manage to hang themselves with the rope while damaging their phone..
14 posted on 10/12/2010 6:56:24 PM PDT by Domangart
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To: Domangart

Thankfully my HTC has proven to be extremely reliable - it hasn’t broken, and the non-slip rear, and curved shape makes it very “sticky” in the hand so the fear of dropping it is greatly reduced!


15 posted on 10/12/2010 6:58:24 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: driftdiver

It’s OK. I’m a hater, I’m allowed to spew FUD, even when it is, in fact, reality!


16 posted on 10/12/2010 7:01:41 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: driftdiver

You’re on a Mac thread again. So much for your faux outrage. You broke your second promise!


17 posted on 10/12/2010 7:06:24 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I love BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
the non-slip rear, and curved shape makes it very “sticky” in the hand so the fear of dropping it is greatly reduced!

Does it have extra-large, backlit buttons, too? You should go into marketing for Jitterbug™

18 posted on 10/12/2010 7:07:45 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: BunnySlippers; driftdiver

Are you seriously that ignorant?

I STARTED THE THREAD, AND I INVITED HIM IN.

Yes me, PugetSoundSoldier, called the antichrist, Satan himself by the Apple legion on FR. If it’s a “MAC” thread then you’re Steve Ballmer’s chambermaid!

Go stir up crap somewhere else... Your personal attacks are NOT welcome here.


19 posted on 10/12/2010 7:08:27 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

Talk about attacks.

You like to stir it up as you HATE Apple.

Do you mean that if you invite people who are TOLD to stay off Mac threads trumps Jim’s directive? And people who have SWORN they do indeed STAY OFF those threads?

They lie.


20 posted on 10/12/2010 7:12:25 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I love BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
If it’s a “MAC” thread then you’re Steve Ballmer’s chambermaid!

... as opposed to his chamberpot?

21 posted on 10/12/2010 7:12:32 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry
HTC Touch Pro2. A real cell phone, with a real mobile OS, and one that does real work with a real keyboard...;)

Nice and clean, shaped like your hand, and the plastic rear is slightly rubberized so it doesn't slide out easily.

22 posted on 10/12/2010 7:13:56 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: BunnySlippers
Let me see if I can get this through that skull of yours:

THIS IS NOT A MAC THREAD

Now, if you want to keep stirring up crap, get out... It's MY thread, so you can just stuff it.

In the mean time, anything meaningful to add, other than personal attacks and insults?

23 posted on 10/12/2010 7:16:03 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

How is this NOT a Mac thread?

You are so silly.


24 posted on 10/12/2010 7:18:28 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I love BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
Maybe Microsoft can come out with a knurled rubber edge on their upcoming phone and win that feature war, too.

But the stylus ... where's the stylus?

25 posted on 10/12/2010 7:19:14 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: BunnySlippers; Admin Moderator; driftdiver

Go away, troll...


26 posted on 10/12/2010 7:24:19 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

How is this not a Mac thread?


27 posted on 10/12/2010 7:25:14 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I love BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: RegulatorCountry

More importantly, a phone that doesn’t need a rubber bumper added so you can use it as a phone, and one that doesn’t shatter into millions of pieces when you drop it!


28 posted on 10/12/2010 7:25:34 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

What’s the rate of breakage on that grippy, zippy little senior citizen model you’re touting? What sort of glass does it use?


29 posted on 10/12/2010 7:27:43 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

I don’t use a bumper. I dropped mine only 2 weeks in when I was listening to an audiobook.

I dropped it on stone [actually slate]. Not a scratch.

I would not want to do this again and can’t say it would be successful twice. But the glass on my unprotected phone is spotless .... so far.


30 posted on 10/12/2010 7:29:52 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I love BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

My Sprint EVO Rocks!!!


31 posted on 10/12/2010 7:37:26 PM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Where is our military?)
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To: RegulatorCountry
Huh - pretty low, I think... it's not a senior citizen model, either - just a really well-thought-out, functional phone. One that does everything I could want, and then some...

It's got a great glass screen with resistive touch, one with resolution only barely eclipsed by the iPhone 4 (which was a full year after the release of the Touch Pro2). And I GREATLY prefer resistive over capacitive - it just works with dirty fingers, gloves, pencils, whatever...;)

I just find it surprising that the new iPhone (touted with its Gorilla glass) has such a high breakage rate - nearly twice that of the previous version! Perhaps the idea of glass front AND back, and a hard aluminum side band was a bad idea. With nearly 5% broken so far, in just 4 months, that's a pretty significant breakage rate!


32 posted on 10/12/2010 7:56:09 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: BunnySlippers; PugetSoundSoldier

As PSS stated, he invited me into this thread.

You still haven’t apologized for accusing me of a federal crime.


33 posted on 10/13/2010 6:47:12 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver; Swordmaker; dayglored

Apple’s over 300 today!!! Yeah!


34 posted on 10/13/2010 6:54:48 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I love BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: BunnySlippers; Swordmaker; dayglored; PugetSoundSoldier

Still no apology?


35 posted on 10/13/2010 6:56:22 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

You broke your second promise. That tells me everything I need to know about the veracity of your posts.


36 posted on 10/13/2010 7:03:12 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I love BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: BunnySlippers; PugetSoundSoldier

“You broke your second promise. That tells me everything I need to know about the veracity of your posts.”

Its not a mac thead, it was started by Pugetsoundsoldier who invited me in.

You’ve been asked to stop being a troll on this thread. You’ve accused me of a federal crime and continue to lie about it. Typical behavior for your crowd so I shouldn’t be surprised.

Now stop harassing me.


37 posted on 10/13/2010 7:08:18 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

Form over function.


38 posted on 10/13/2010 7:14:45 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

I still love my TouchPro2 (Tilt2). But I had to load JackOS on it to remove the ATT bloatware.


39 posted on 10/13/2010 7:19:19 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: driftdiver

How is it NOT a Mac thread? It says iPhone in the title? What platform are you talking about?

I’ll humor you: Point out where I accused you of a “federal crime”.

301.39


40 posted on 10/13/2010 7:23:24 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I love BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: BunnySlippers

Its PSS thread, and he has asked you to clean it up several times.

You accused me of “infiltrating “ your email. A private message is not infiltrating.


41 posted on 10/13/2010 7:42:19 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

First of all “infiltrating” email is not a “federal crime” as you so state.

You sent me a private reply which comes to my Freep Mail telling me you hoped I “choked” IIRC. Why would you not post that publicly? I think because you know it was totally inappropriate. I then asked you to stop and you continued to be vile in the extreme. You sent me two more mails ... each time I asked you to stop.

You DID infiltrate my mail.

No one has been able to explain how this is not a Mac thread. It clearly says “iPhone” and is ONLY about an Apple product.


42 posted on 10/13/2010 7:56:38 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I love BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier; driftdiver; Swordmaker; BunnySlippers
> Don't worry, though, I'm sure this will also be dismissed as FUD... It’s OK. I’m a hater, I’m allowed to spew FUD, even when it is, in fact, reality!

Hi Puget.

I'm not going to enter into this technical discussion, interesting though it is. Overall, I suspect your technical assessment may be on or close to the mark. No argument there.

This is a comment about the thread itself, and your purpose in posting certain of your comments. Just for the record, Puget, because you know perfectly well this is true:

Your taunts like the above are called "BAIT".

They have no place on a civil thread intended to discuss the facts of the news.

It's obviously and completely an Apple thread.

You set your bait out and some Apple folks took it.

Are you proud of yourself? (That's a rhetorical question, no need to answer.)

Comments like yours above poison the FR tech threads, and are unnecessary, IMO. Under other circumstances, they might be seen as a form of self-deprecating humor, but in these circumstances, it's bait. You know exactly what I'm talking about.

I suggest that you set a better example and encourage other posters (such as driftdiver and bunnyslippers) to stop fighting and talk about the technical pros and cons, like the first few comments, and your comment #32, which is fascinating. There's plenty to talk about there, without getting into your personal obsession with old attacks to or from Apple fans. You can set the tone with a clear, adult example, instead of a juvenile one.

Unfortunately, the thread has already deteriorated to the point where it'll turn my stomach to participate much, and I've gotta get work done today anyway, so I'm off until this evening.

Please, all, stop the food-fight, and try to pull the thread back into a more appropriate discussion relating to the topic.

Thanks.

43 posted on 10/13/2010 8:16:08 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored; BunnySlippers
Please, all, stop the food-fight, and try to pull the thread back into a more appropriate discussion relating to the topic.

Tell that to BunnySlippers who charged in like a bull and attacked. Read the opening post, and up to 17 - linked from the story, title straight from the other website, and we were talking WHY it has higher breakage rates.

Then Bunny crashed it, and the crap happened yet again because iPhone fans simply cannot take the truth.

Get some balance, please. You can play peacemaker, but read this thread objectively and you'll see when it went sideways - Bunny charging in and attacking for some grievance from the past. Calling me out and ignoring the reality shows your "peacemaking" is about as one-sided as the UN Security Council.

So, that said, if you have nothing technical to add, why are you here? Yeah, I'm being snippy, but I'm tired of always being attacked and treated as the bad guy (like you're doing here) for reporting OBJECTIVE data, and discussing technical reasons for why it came about. You don't like it? You're free to move to another thread...

Got a problem with it, let's take it to private mail.

44 posted on 10/13/2010 2:47:06 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: BunnySlippers

Please shut the hell up and knock it off with stirring the crap...


45 posted on 10/13/2010 3:22:55 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: dayglored

Knock it off drama queen...


46 posted on 10/13/2010 3:25:01 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: BunnySlippers

iPhone != Mac. Not everything that involves Apple is a Mac thread. There’s another version of this story linked to in 11, you can go over there for the worship.


47 posted on 10/13/2010 3:32:53 PM PDT by discostu (Keyser Soze lives)
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To: BunnySlippers

So you own Apple now and are the only one to post threads about apple?? Really? Are you sure?

So do you also get paid by apple to do PR for them?


48 posted on 10/13/2010 4:28:14 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: dayglored; PugetSoundSoldier

dayglored,

To be fair puget posted the article and then the hate joined in.

I can see not commenting on a thread where the poster asks you not too. PSS posted this thread. He invited me to comment.

Since then the haters have attacked, insulted and lied. I’d appreciate if they got equal time in your condemnation.


49 posted on 10/13/2010 4:32:51 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Admin Moderator
> Knock it off drama queen...

Okay, sorry about that, Chief.

50 posted on 10/13/2010 5:02:32 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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