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Liberals plan to control nation's food supply and starve the homeless and disabled
Mainestategop ^ | Mainestategop

Posted on 10/15/2010 11:26:00 AM PDT by mainestategop

In previous articles I brought up how liberals want the state to control the worlds food supply. Liberals believe that the private sector should not have a say in growing distributing and selling food. The state along with one world communist government should only have a say in those matters.

Of course any student of history can see where that has lead, from food shortages and blights in the middle ages thanks to feudalism to hundreds of millions dying under communist made food shortages in Ukraine and China.

Farms and grocery stores are not the only things liberals want to come under the monopoly control of the state. The very act of giving someone food, a crust of bread, a morsel, what have you, outside government supervision is considered abhorrent by liberals. Only the state and those authorized by the state should do that. Even if the person is needy.

In cities around America such as Los Angeles, Santa Barbara, Dallas, Portland Oregon, Miami, Austin, Portland Maine, Seattle, Orlando, Las Vegas, Denver, Chicago, Detroit and New York, cities that have large homeless and needy populations (thanks to liberals and their sadistic nazist worldview) there have been clamp downs by the police, the department of health and city council against charities and citizens that distribute food to the needy.

Groups like Food not bombs, the salvation army, local churches ETC have come under the heavy foot of BIG government. This has been felt horribly in Orlando, Los Angeles and Las Vegas. The government wants to ban the sale or free giving of food to those deemed eligible for government assistance. (Yet don't get it)

Under the auspices of hygiene and the environment, liberals want to make it a crime to give food to the homeless and those with little or no income and require that only the government may give them food. To further discourage this, liberals have used ineffective bureaucracy by forcing charities to pay hundreds perhaps thousands of dollars to obtain a government permit to hand out food. In addition harassment by the police has taken place.

In Los Angeles, the liberal LAPD with help from busy bodies at city hall have moved through Skid Row and south Central LA harassing and discouraging the giving of food. Feedings were commonplace at the time. Charities even ordinary citizens would show up and provide used clothing, food and hygiene kits to LA's poorest and most downtrodden. The Liberals at city hall want to put an end to that and make sure that the only place they will be getting food or anything is at state run/regulated missions or the welfare office.

Food not bombs was harassed last month by LAPD officers accompanied by a government worker outside the Union Mission. The Worker and the officer attempted to shut down the feeding and warned volunteers that feeding the poor and giving them clothing promoted drug addition, littering and that they needed an expensive health permit. Another charity was also harassed. None of the caved in thankfully and no one was arrested.

Sadly there have been successful attempts by liberal Busy bodies to shut down feeding. A group of UCLA students attempted to serve soup to transients living near Washington Blvd and were prevented by LAPD officers who used bullying tactics. The group caved and repacked their van and moved on. Not before LAPD officers dumped the soup out on the pavement.

A group of Korean missionaries who regularly serve coffee and donuts on 6th and Crocker also faced harassment and were deterred from serving one day by police officers who followed them and stopped their van just in sight of a line full of hungry people, many of whom had been waiting over an hour. The missionaries were bullied and threatened with a citation if they did not move on. They did and several poor individuals, many of whom do NOT get benefits of any kind including food stamps did not get to eat breakfast that day because of liberals and the LAPD.

Similar instances have taken place in other cities like the ones mentioned above. At times feedings have been shut down due to liberal meddling by Department of health and local gestapo. Never mind that many of these people do not get benefits and sleep out in the streets.

And Here, is the crux of the problem, the government, the very government that wants these poor people to depend solely on them often times turns them away and tells them to go die somewhere instead of so much as giving them benefits.

Statistics show that in Los Angeles county, over 70% of transients, many of whom are disabled are not getting any kind of benefits including food stamps despite being eligible. The same story is played out throughout America's cities. Food stamps, SSI, TANF and other services are denied and the poor are turned away. All while selfish and lazy government employees waste your taxes. Most of the time, able bodied drug addicts are put ahead of those truly in need.

The consequences

Shutting down feedings and forcing the poor to rely exclusively on the government for assistance not only costs taxpayers more money, it often times does not work and creates ripple effects throughout the community.

In Dallas Texas for example, the city council meddled with feedings and shut them down saying it would be better if the poor rely on welfare. The city also shut down a non profit shelter because of its religious views. The result... Dallas experienced Higher crime, more homelessness and more drug addictions. Homelessness did not budge an inch.Las Vegas and Orlando also attempted the same thing by shutting down feedings. This fueled crime by creating a desperate situation and created a greater dependence on government.

The liberal agenda: Mass starvation and totalitarian control.

The real agenda of liberals behind this is not compassion but control over your food and when or whether you can eat. Liberals will have us believe that food is a right not a privilege but fail to mention who gives that right? Their answer is the state which all must bow down to and obey or Your a racist! But the state as it always has can always take away what it can give. It often happens.

We saw this first hand in Russia and China in the past century. Both countries cast off religion and morality and the ideas of free markets liberty and the right to decide for one's self. (of course at the time they had very little freedom or liberty to begin with anyway making it easier.)

The state took control of food and production and distribution became centralized in the hands of a few. It was the will of the people the liberals said. Food is a right, and because of this, hundreds of millions perished.

In Germany under Hitler's national socialists, food was withheld from those the state deemed unworthy. That is, those who were not considered full blooded Aryans and opposed the state. This also included those who could not contribute labor or taxes for government projects as well as government pay stubs. The German Socialists initiated the barbaric T4 program. First they used starvation by denying food to patients in mental hospitals who were considered inferior by the state's opinion. Thousands died of starvation in mental hospitals and work camps. Later they resorted to gassing with carbon monoxide.

Liberal socialists in America are doing the exact same thing their predecessors did in Germany, the USSR, China, Cambodia and elsewhere by making it a crime to distribute food to the poor and the weak and by funneling the masses into a bureaucratic nightmare where the power of life and death is given at the hands of case workers, government administrators and others. If you can't work, if you are homeless, if you can't contribute taxes and most of all, if you don't contribute votes for the Democrats in exchange, you don't eat.

Not only do liberals deny food stamps SSI and others, they deny health care. America already has Universal health care in most of America despite what liberals want you to believe. In Maine for example there is Mainecare and it frequently turns away those who need it. In Massachusetts and California the same thing also happens. Free clinics on La's Skid row also turn away people.

Now that we have Obamacare, expect to see more poor and elderly being pushed aside for illegal aliens, drug addicts and singles with illegitimate children who make up Obama and the Democrat's voting base. It looks as though Sarah Palin's theory of death panels might not be as far fetched as the left would have us believe. the NHS in Britain also deny's life saving care to its poor and weak. In the Netherlands Euthanasia is being practiced to kill weak and sick babies who are just being born. In Communist Venezuela and Cuba, doctors deny healthcare to babies with down syndrome. And to make Socialized medicine look good, they downplay casualties and cook the books. After all they were weak and inferior anyway.

Food is always a weapon of socialism. If the government can give it to you it can take it away. A government that is powerful enough to give you your rights can terminate them and a government with that much power also has the ability to kill you at anytime it wants.

Alternatives and how conservative cities deal with it

There are of course better ways to solve all of these allegations made by police and the health department. For one thing cheaper permit costs wouldn't hurt. In addition requiring clean up after wards by the volunteers. Also by placing and regularly emptying garbage cans. Instead of collectively punishing every needy person, simply cite and fine those who litter.

It can work and it does in more Conservative communities where Judeo Christian values are entrenched. One good example is Omaha Nebraska. the city of Omaha is regarded as one of the ten most generous cities in the country. 50% of the population volunteers in some kind of mercy work. The city is overwhelmingly religious with Catholics just barely outnumbering Evangelicals. The city has two privately run shelters that provide laundry clothing food shelter and other services to the homeless and those struggling.

There are also regular feedings at the park downtown near the library. St Timothy's Lutheran church regularly distributes sandwiches and food not bombs also comes by weekly. Angels on wheels, a ministry that routinely serves the needy also comes by and holds BBQ cook outs and distributes shoes clothes and hygiene kits. Permit costs are sensible and everyone is civilized almost all the time. The volunteers also clean up afterwards making sure that everything is tidy like before. This is what civilization looks like. this is what happens when the teachings of Abraham, Mosses and Christ are applied in our society. But the liberals despise this...

To be continued...

Skid Row's homeless as well as the homeless in many other urban areas of the USA and Europe face this debacle everyday whenever liberalism comes to town. Whether its food stamps SSI, health care whatever. Its a sick agenda.

Next time you'll learn about how liberals are not only taking over the distribution of food but homeless shelters as well. You will learn what goes on in shelters in Los Angeles, New York, Boston and elsewhere when the state has the power over who gets a bed or not and the kind of people who run these shelters.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Health/Medicine; Miscellaneous; Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: brownshirts; charity; collectivization; communism; control; eugenics; famine; food; genocide; homelessness; liberalfascism; liberalism; liberalnazis; marxism; mass; obama; progressives; skidrow; socialism; ssi; stalin; stalinism; starvation; t4; ukraine; unemployment; welfare
Today they withold food from the disabled and homeless, soon the government is going to have the power to take away food from your own family.
1 posted on 10/15/2010 11:26:09 AM PDT by mainestategop
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To: mainestategop

Long story, short...the left has ALWAYS been about population control.

Abortion, Eugenics or controlling food production is just a few of the many tools the left use to reduce the herd.


2 posted on 10/15/2010 11:31:54 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: mainestategop

well they do have a point feeding the homeless just enables their lifestyle and frees up what resources they have drugs and booze. I don’t take the states side here if someone wants to feel like a good liberal/christian/altruist and buy a homeless guy a sandwich or give them ten bucks for food (which is spent on vodka) than thats their bussiness.


3 posted on 10/15/2010 11:32:04 AM PDT by utherdoul
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To: mainestategop

Food rationing worked in England during WWII. There would have to be a similarly patriotic rationale for a free people to accept any form of mandatory food distribution.

Of course, the current generation has moved away from the simple pleasure and purpose of vegetable gardens, much less raising a few hens for eggs & meat.

I vaguely remember a Victory Garden revival under Jimmy Carter or was it Gerald Ford?


4 posted on 10/15/2010 11:38:29 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair; man's surrender. Laughter; God's redemption.)
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To: mainestategop

There is one liberal family in St. Paul who are friends, and we do find many areas of commons ground. One is that the best charity is that which is private, voluntary, and actually helps people. This is much superior to the faceless bureaucrat on a control trip, holding people down in order to justify his/her job. Organizations such as the Salvation Army have the biggest positive impact for each dollar.
This is all about control. And the bureaucrats in Los Angeles are being extremely heavy handed aobut this.


5 posted on 10/15/2010 11:46:37 AM PDT by Fred Hayek (FUBO! I salute you with the soles of my shoes!)
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To: utherdoul
Your right. But if you take away the feedings it will only punish those who really need it. From there it wont stop. Next the state will want to regulate our kitchens as well. I got a friend of mine who was homeless on skid row for a few months. He gave me a lot of this info. He said its easier get food from feedings then the rescue missions which tend to be unsanitary and full of psychos and criminals.
6 posted on 10/15/2010 11:48:05 AM PDT by mainestategop (Don’t Let Freedom Slip Away After America , There is No Place to Go)
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To: sodpoodle

I read that Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi actually want to make gardening illegal for ordinary people. Like I said its not about food its about control. At least during the last wars you could do that. But the liberals just want to make us starve.


7 posted on 10/15/2010 11:49:38 AM PDT by mainestategop (Don’t Let Freedom Slip Away After America , There is No Place to Go)
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To: mainestategop

Can’t call them liberals any more. They are marxists. They want to control every aspect of society and economics. They want complete control over who eats what. That will give them control to starve future Terri Schiavos and old people.


8 posted on 10/15/2010 11:49:53 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Annoying liberals is my goal. I will not be silenced.)
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To: mainestategop

I disagree with your premise. The liberals are not out to deny food to the poor. They are out to take our incomes to give food, shelter, cellphones and ipods to the poor. And make us poor in the process.


9 posted on 10/15/2010 11:52:36 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: mainestategop

H.R. 2749 and S 510 bills are the evidence that the left intends to do exactly what is stated to the U.S.

H.R. 2749 passed the house last year, but if you look at the markup in the senate it is evident that some in the senate understand. It is a horror of a bill that has not received the proper coverage in the news.


10 posted on 10/15/2010 11:52:49 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: mainestategop

Throw into the list of examples the Ethiopian “famine”. While there was a drought in Ethiopia, much of the hunger was due to a forced relocation scheme by the Mengistu regime. The food that was raised by the feel good “We are the world” campaign sat on the docks and either rotted, or was sold on the black market elsewheres by Mengistu’s thugs. In other words, the famine was really a deliberate genocide campaign, patterned on Stalin’s programs - Mengistu was a Stalinist. I shocked a lot of people in 1988 when I said that the best way to end the Ethiopian famine would be a well placed sniper round.


11 posted on 10/15/2010 11:53:08 AM PDT by Fred Hayek (FUBO! I salute you with the soles of my shoes!)
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To: sodpoodle

This government wants to ban home gardening I think


12 posted on 10/15/2010 11:56:11 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: mainestategop

Hard to believe we are actually thinking and typing these concerns....about our own government..!!!!!!

I hope in two years we will be able to look back and laugh.

If not, see you in the food stamp allocation line.


13 posted on 10/15/2010 11:59:38 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair; man's surrender. Laughter; God's redemption.)
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To: dirtboy

You are mistaken, Sir.

Forty years ago, the hard-core left (Bill Ayers et. al) were perfectly happy with the concept of sending one-eighth of the population of this country to the ovens.

Today, the 10:10 “No Pressure” outfit fantasizes over a Red Button of Death that will turn their opponents into pink mist.

They plan to kill any and all who oppose them.

Ghastly though that concept may be, it’s the inescapable truth.


14 posted on 10/15/2010 12:03:13 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: utherdoul
'Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. - Ezekiel 16:49

Now I agree with you that the "poor" are often not really all that poor, and when they are it's generally their own fault, and that money given to them is often put to bad use, which is generally how they got to be poor in the first place.

But for those of us who give a rat's backside about Christianity, there's that verse in Ezekiel, and it won't go away.

15 posted on 10/15/2010 12:05:38 PM PDT by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: DuncanWaring

Look at what 40+ years of Great Society programs have wrought - how many skinny poor people have you seen? But I’ve seen plenty of obese ones. I agree the greenie nutbars would like to kill off 90 percent of the population (as long as they are among the 10 percent that are spared). But the modern liberal wants a life of uniform, grey, bloated mediocrity where everyone is fed and housed but no one is happy.


16 posted on 10/15/2010 12:08:04 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: sodpoodle

Even that is being regulated. Despite the fact that in my city you ARE allowed to have up to 3 chickens and 3 rabbits we were forced (by city council) to get rid of our ONE chicken and ONE rabbit that were kept as pets.


17 posted on 10/15/2010 12:09:46 PM PDT by sfimom
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To: sfimom

unbelievable - how the government ruling elite want us to be ignorant, dependant and enslaved. Our ancestors (those resourceful pioneers) are rolling in their graves!!!!

http://www.educate-yourself.org/cn/HR875andS425organicfarmingban13mar09.shtml


18 posted on 10/15/2010 12:50:27 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair; man's surrender. Laughter; God's redemption.)
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To: Le Chien Rouge

I detest Libs, one day it will come down to lead and knives.


19 posted on 10/15/2010 12:52:08 PM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: mainestategop

The libs (marxists) will not starve the homeless and disabled, provided that they stay in line. The libs (marxists) will starve counter-revolutionaries as they have in the past.


20 posted on 10/15/2010 12:59:57 PM PDT by matt1234 (The only crisis 0bama can manage is one he intentionally created.)
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To: sodpoodle
No, in two years you will either be dead in an unmarked grave or in a labor camp in Alaska or nevada.

And they wont give you food stamps for being a capitalist dog typing on freerepublic of all places. Not unless your a dope fiend, a sixteen year old with bastards in tow, or a filthy lazy bum. You could probably lie and just said you did it for laughs.

21 posted on 10/15/2010 1:31:54 PM PDT by mainestategop (Don’t Let Freedom Slip Away After America , There is No Place to Go)
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To: Oberon; All
'Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. - Ezekiel 16:49 Now I agree with you that the "poor" are often not really all that poor, and when they are it's generally their own fault, and that money given to them is often put to bad use, which is generally how they got to be poor in the first place. But for those of us who give a rat's backside about Christianity, there's that verse in Ezekiel, and it won't go away. AMEN! About 95% of the nations homeless or poor because they made wrong decisions or are handicapped or disabled or crazy or what not. Life has checks and balances. You mess up you either end up on the streets or end up living in a slum.

The other 5% are a tiny minority who are poor because of THE BIG GOVERNMENT'S DECISIONS Made in place of our responsible decisions. The government never makes the right decision

That's how my friend became homeless. His family abused him, took away his inheritance and money and the government backed them up. He was forced to go on SSI and he only gets 500$ a month. He now lives in a filthy SRO in East LA.

The rest are homeless because of economic hardships brought about by socialism and the expensive welfare state in place of our Judeo Christian values. Ezekiel 16:49 puts it wonderfully.

22 posted on 10/15/2010 1:37:48 PM PDT by mainestategop (Don’t Let Freedom Slip Away After America , There is No Place to Go)
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To: mainestategop

Just in case they revert to cannibalism - I’m being cremated...and if they try any funny stuff - I’ll rot their teeth.


23 posted on 10/15/2010 1:39:43 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair; man's surrender. Laughter; God's redemption.)
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To: mainestategop

A few weeks before GWB began his first term, WJC publicly opined that the USA should cease farming, and import all food from third world countries that could farm “better and cheaper” than could the US. He presented this as a win-win: The USA could concentrate on high tech industries and service sector jobs, and third world countries would get much needed $$$$$$ in exchange for their crops. Can’t remember the source for the original article in which WJC shared this “brilliant” notion, and googling was unsuccessful. The article was posted to FR; if anyone has a link please post it to this article, which reminds me of that long ago proposal .


24 posted on 10/15/2010 2:18:23 PM PDT by kaylar (It's MARTIAL law. Not marshal(l) or marital! This has been a spelling PSA. PS Secede not succeed)
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To: mainestategop
Make no mistake.

There is only one side in this (so far ) cold civil war who has any concept of the value of human life.

And it ain't them.

They *will* unemploy, starve, torture, imprison, and *kill* you if it seems to assist in achieving their goals. And they will sleep like babies after pulling your kid apart in front of you.

There is a reason why the Left and Islam get along so well.

They both consider the lives of those who are not actively assisting in the plots-du-jure of their respective cults to be forfeit.

Don't assume that because it drives a car and can whistle a tune that it's human.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

26 posted on 10/15/2010 3:00:56 PM PDT by The Comedian (They Live. We Sleep.)
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To: kaylar
...WJC publicly opined that the USA should cease farming, and import all food from third world countries that could farm “better and cheaper” than could the US.

I remember that myself.

Leaving for now the question of whether or not it's a good idea, the basic problem is that "the third-world countries can't feed themselves, let alone the US also."

27 posted on 10/15/2010 4:37:22 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: The Comedian

” They *will* unemploy, starve, torture, imprison, and *kill* you if it seems to assist in achieving their goals. And they will sleep like babies after pulling your kid apart in front of you.

There is a reason why the Left and Islam get along so well.”

Birds of a feather.


28 posted on 10/15/2010 5:25:32 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: mainestategop

29 posted on 10/16/2010 2:16:59 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under. ~Mencken)
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To: DuncanWaring

I actually found via googling a blogger whose archives went back to December 2000...He had written an angry response to WJC’s proposal, which included enough quotes from the original article that I now know it’s from the Washington Post, 12/15/2000. I’m kinda surprised the WP’s archives didn’t go back that far.


30 posted on 10/16/2010 5:50:55 AM PDT by kaylar (It's MARTIAL law. Not marshal(l) or marital! This has been a spelling PSA. PS Secede not succeed)
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