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The Yale Incident Wasn't An Isolated One (Pledges:"We Love Yale Sluts!")
Slate's XX Factor ^ | 15 Oct | miranda Lewis

Posted on 10/18/2010 9:24:28 AM PDT by flowerplough

Emily Y. posted earlier today about an incident that happened at Yale on Wednesday night: A group of members and pledges of the frat Delta Kappa Epsilon were heard around campus yelling chants like, "My name is Jack, I'm a necrophiliac, I f*** dead women, and fill them with my semen." Emily asked, "Where are the adults here? Why hasn't the administration already taken action?" and she called for DKE's suspension.

These men should be punished, but banning DKE won't solve the problem. The problem is pandemic across many groups on campus. The chant is actually a typical rally cry for another frat and for the men's rugby team. These events aren't isolated. Yale needs cultural change, and banning a fraternity without much more discussion won't help.

In the past, Yale has set a precedent for trying to cover up the real issues at hand by attempting to settle issues quickly and quietly, without making a fuss. Three years ago, men in Zeta Psi stood in front of the Yale Women's Center and posed for photographs with a sign that said "We Love Yale Sluts." When Yale didn't react, the Women's Center threatened to sue the frat. Yale discouraged them from suing and the frat went by unpunished.

At the beginning of last year, a group of upperclassmen sent around an e-mail that soon found its way into the inboxes of most Yale students. It was called a "Pre-Season Scouting Report," and it ranked freshmen girls' attractiveness based on how many beers it would take to have sex with them. Yale did nothing other than issue a statement saying this was not OK.

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TOPICS: Education
KEYWORDS: yale

1 posted on 10/18/2010 9:24:30 AM PDT by flowerplough
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To: flowerplough

sounds about normal for a group of 18-21 year olds....


2 posted on 10/18/2010 9:31:09 AM PDT by devane617 (November!)
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To: devane617

Yes, and the Dekes *do* have something of a reputation for this sort of stuff.


3 posted on 10/18/2010 9:33:22 AM PDT by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: flowerplough

George W. Bush was a DKE at Yale.


4 posted on 10/18/2010 9:35:41 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (Southeast Wisconsin, Zone 4 to 5)
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To: Charles Martel

“Every fall, the trees are filled with underwear. Every Spring, the toilets......explode.”


5 posted on 10/18/2010 9:35:55 AM PDT by wbill
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To: flowerplough

“If the name fits, act it out!

And they did.


6 posted on 10/18/2010 9:36:03 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: Charles Martel

when a group of 40-somethings from Bank Of America, or John Deere start posing for nude pics in front their office building then we start to question, but these are college students. I say, more power to them....


7 posted on 10/18/2010 9:36:03 AM PDT by devane617 (November!)
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To: devane617

Yes, I long for those innocent days when we sang, “Chi O...Chi O...it’s off to bed we go...”


8 posted on 10/18/2010 9:36:08 AM PDT by dfwgator (Bring on the Yankees!)
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To: devane617

The stereotype of modern college campus life consist of multiple sexual “hook ups” by students with no consequences or commitment.

So tell me why do people who act like “sluts” get upset when they regarded and treated like “sluts”?


9 posted on 10/18/2010 9:36:29 AM PDT by fungoking (Tis a blessing to live in the Ozarks.)
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To: flowerplough

I should have elaborated and added that GWB was PRESIDENT of the DKE’s at Yale.


10 posted on 10/18/2010 9:37:07 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (Southeast Wisconsin, Zone 4 to 5)
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To: devane617

“Who dumped a truckload of ‘Fizzies’ into the swim meet? Who delivered the medical school cadavers to the Alumni Luncheon?”


11 posted on 10/18/2010 9:38:09 AM PDT by wbill
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To: dfwgator

OMG — that is a TERRIBLE thing to sing. You should be ashamed of yourselves.


12 posted on 10/18/2010 9:39:02 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (Chi O -- Mu, UC Berkeley)
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To: dfwgator
"It's not an Orgy. It's a Toga Party!"
13 posted on 10/18/2010 9:40:40 AM PDT by wbill
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To: dfwgator
"Some girls ride in Cheyys And some girls ride in Fords Chi-O's ride their mattresses To pay their room and board." Ahh college.
14 posted on 10/18/2010 9:41:20 AM PDT by Jobu Needs A Refill (Piper Palin 2036.)
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To: devane617
A few years ago the students of Rutgers were noted chanting “F@ck Navy, F@ck Navy” at a game on their campus. Attempts to arouse any sense of shame or impropriety amongst the “youts” of Rutgers were met with derision and defiance.

Later that same year Don Imus (whose language is often on the same level) was fired for referring to one of the women's teams as “Nappy headed hos”.

I guess the student bodies these days think one should be fired for criticizing their hair styles.

I would like to see a return to polite society, but to get there the student body is going to have to start by admitting that the problem is not one fraternity, but the entire student body. And it is not just the males either.

15 posted on 10/18/2010 9:41:40 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.8)
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To: flowerplough

Uh, this is a very flawed approach if they want to actually appeal to live women and find some who will date them.


16 posted on 10/18/2010 9:46:18 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: flowerplough

As a former rugger, trust me when I tell you that the cheer mentioned is mild compared to some of the chants/cheers/ rituals that go on after rugby matches.


17 posted on 10/18/2010 9:47:05 AM PDT by The_Sword_of_Groo (<=== Proudly resides in occupied Georgia)
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To: MrEdd
, but to get there the student body is going to have to start by admitting that the problem is not one fraternity, but the entire student body.

"But you can't hold a whole fraternity responsible for the behavior of a few, sick twisted individuals. For if you do, then shouldn't we blame the whole fraternity system? And if the whole fraternity system is guilty, then isn't this an indictment of our educational institutions in general? I put it to you, Greg - isn't this an indictment of our entire American society? Well, you can do whatever you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America. Gentlemen!"

18 posted on 10/18/2010 9:48:09 AM PDT by dfwgator (Bring on the Yankees!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I am SO GLAD I am a Sigma Chi!

We are so much above those petty, childish chants and insults against these innocent young women.

Maybe you and I should find a quiet spot where we can go to discuss this further!


19 posted on 10/18/2010 9:54:59 AM PDT by Bartholomew Roberts
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To: dfwgator

you’re pre law? I thought you were pre med...


20 posted on 10/18/2010 9:56:01 AM PDT by The_Sword_of_Groo (<=== Proudly resides in occupied Georgia)
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To: flowerplough

Why should they be punished for excercising free speech? Isnt that the whole point of college? Wasnt it these college egg-heads who said we must defend speech we disagree with?

And how in the world would the “women’s” group sue another group for holding up a sign? What legal grounds could they have possibly had?


21 posted on 10/18/2010 10:00:25 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: The_Sword_of_Groo
I say put this group on...
 
 


22 posted on 10/18/2010 10:06:01 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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To: wbill

"I, state your name,..."

23 posted on 10/18/2010 10:06:23 AM PDT by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: Bartholomew Roberts

I am a Sigma Chi myself. And needless to say, we took no part in such awful, disgusting behavior when I was in college some 30+ years ago. Said Barnacle Bill the Sailor.


24 posted on 10/18/2010 10:11:51 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: Bartholomew Roberts

Glad to hear that - I’m Sigma Chi also and we never, ever participated in any childish stunts. But if you give me a cold beer (which we NEVER had at the frat house)I might be able to think up a few things. I vaguely recall sending pledges down the hill tied to laZBoys with wheels. And something about putting a hose in the fron window of the Kappa Sig house...


25 posted on 10/18/2010 10:16:19 AM PDT by PaForBush
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To: flowerplough
Yes, Yale needs societal change. As in, I volunteer to move to New Haven and help set up a Phi Kap colony so they’ll really have something to squeal about.
26 posted on 10/18/2010 10:27:22 AM PDT by RichInOC (...Phi Kappa Sigma, Beta Rho '87..."Mine's bigger." "I beg your pardon?" "My cucumber. It's bigger.")
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To: devane617

I think 18 to 21 year old women can handle themselves without bringing in some ‘Women’s Center’ group - usually a large collection of elite liberal men haters...


27 posted on 10/18/2010 10:32:21 AM PDT by GOPJ ( - - - - - - Your universe: http://primaxstudio.com/stuff/scale_of_universe/)
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To: flowerplough

I say place them on Double Secret Probation.


28 posted on 10/18/2010 10:34:44 AM PDT by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand - If you are French raise both hands.)
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To: Charles Martel
"From now on your Delta Tau Chi name is Pinto."

"Why Pinto?"

(Burrrraaaaapp) "Why not!"

29 posted on 10/18/2010 10:35:32 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Bartholomew Roberts

Sacred carrots and stagnant Christians ;-)


30 posted on 10/18/2010 10:35:54 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: wbill

You must be speaking of the Delta house sir.


31 posted on 10/18/2010 10:37:43 AM PDT by BBell
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To: flowerplough
Three years ago, men in Zeta Psi stood in front of the Yale Women's Center and posed for photographs with a sign that said "We Love Yale Sluts." When Yale didn't react, the Women's Center threatened to sue the frat.

I am struggling to think what they would be suing over here. What damage was caused to anyone by this incident?

32 posted on 10/18/2010 10:40:39 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: PaForBush
My father - a member of a fraternity that shall remain nameless at a college that's best not metnioned - occasionally reminisces about the time he and his brothers broke down a fully loaded honey wagon (manure spreader), then reassembled it in the school cafeteria.

He, too, never tasted alcohol whilst in college. But, he insists on teaching his grandsons bawdy fraternity drinking songs. I'll need to speak with him about that.

33 posted on 10/18/2010 10:43:29 AM PDT by wbill
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To: BBell

“Of COURSE I’m talking about the Delta House, YOU TWERP!”


34 posted on 10/18/2010 10:44:24 AM PDT by wbill
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To: wbill

“This time we’re going to grab the bull by the balls and kick those punks off campus!!!”


35 posted on 10/18/2010 11:02:23 AM PDT by stbdside
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To: fungoking
So tell me why do people who act like “sluts” get upset when they regarded and treated like “sluts”?

Because the name has not evolved along with the behavior. "Slut" is so yesterday, the same as queer and gay, and the Constitution and the Bible. Those were the days when there were moral restrictions on ones actions. Today's yutes must be free of those restraints.

Of course, as our youths go so goes the future society. That has been the plan of the Marxists for years, to destroy our culture so as to dominate us. They recognized early on that our moral culture and Christian values were the biggest obstacles to their conquest. Using Hollywood, the media, progressive politicians and the natural hormonal rage of young people they have brought us to where we are.

36 posted on 10/18/2010 11:09:01 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

Who delivered corpse to the medical school dinner? Who put fizzies in the swimming pools?

Greg, what is the worst fraternity on campus?


37 posted on 10/18/2010 11:13:03 AM PDT by gman992
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To: All

http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments=1&v=CLh0RMpit1k

Listen to what they are chanting. I suspect that even their defenders will have difficulty defending this.


38 posted on 10/19/2010 12:22:18 PM PDT by Immerito
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