Posted on 10/24/2010 10:04:06 AM PDT by Ira_Louvin
WMD Found in Iraq According to the latest batch of Wikileak documents. In particular, coalition troops kept coming across numerous artillery shells filled with mustard gas.
Remember the terms of Section 8 of UN resolution 687 that ended the first Gulf War:
Iraq shall unconditionally accept the destruction, removal, or rendering harmless, under international supervision, of:
(a) All chemical and biological weapons and all stocks of agents and all related subsystems and components and all research, development, support and manufacturing facilities
Thus the instance of a single chemical weapon in Iraq violates the terms that ended the Gulf War, and thus the decision by George W. Bush to carry out the liberation of Iraq in 2003 was both legal and justifiable. (This is in addition to the other numerous instances of jus ad bellum cited by Bush in his speech on that reasons behind that decision.)
Liberals, look at yourself in the nearest mirror and repeat after me: “George W. Bush was right and I was wrong. George W. Bush was right and I was wrong.”
of course they were there
I'll go back to what that one jerky inspector said: "If they don't show us where they are, we'll never find them". No need for such a statement UNLESS he believed they had them. We know Saddam had dual use manufacturing plants and the inspector verified it many times.
You know, there were actually news articles about some of these at the time—carefully downplayed and eventually scrubbed. Some of us still have them archived on our personal computers. Lots of us knew about this all along, but the Bush admin let the ‘Rats run with the lies that there were not WMD.
President Bush did a poor job in getting information such as this out to the public. One of his glaring weaknesses was to take too many punches from the left and not strike back.
Time will bring about a total vindication of Dubya on this one too.
That sarin and mustard gas shells were found in Iraq is pretty well known. All you need to do is search Sarin Mustard Iraq to find old stories on this:
You may find even more if you google Iraq and each type of gas alone. But you are banging your head against the wall, the left and particularly the left media do not letf facts get in the way of their narrative.
MizSterious- Accurate statement. I rem. too the mustard gas shells, found/slightly reported/ forgotten-buried.
Under Saddam, the early years, his military did not color code the WMD. Thus the Incident at Khamisayah....March,1991.
Bush had to be a little gun shy, having already been so screwed by faulty intelligence.
Besides, these shells never constituted the stockpiles that we expected to find.
We know the reason now for the intelligence failure ...Saddam Hussein himself. He was behind the false stories to keep Iran in check. He just never counted on Bush kicking his ass.
He sure paid for that mistake.
I agree. I love George W., and I think he was a great President for the times that we were (and are) in. Remember, he was a clean and fresh contrast to Clinton and his scandals. He was soon made a wartime president, and he did an outstanding job of defending this country. But, he didn’t speak up to defend himself as much as he should have when he was personally attacked...especially toward the end of his presidency.
Of course there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, and, of course Saddam was thumbing his nose at the treaty. Bush did the right thing to go into Iraq, and the liberal media had a field day attacking him. They would have attacked any decision he made in order to gain power for themselves. He just needed to defend himself more. Perhaps he felt that he did what he had to do, and that time and history would vindicate his decisions.
The presence of EMPTA was deemed so serious it was enough for President Clinton to order an attack on the Sudanese Al-Shifa pharmaceutical factory in 1998. If this batch of Wikileak material reveals they found any EMPTA or VX it will be very interesting.
Let’s not forget about the Yellow Cake that was found there too.
Joe Wilson and his beotch Valerie should be held to answer too.
The Associated Press announced that UNMOVIC inspectors have found dozens of engines from banned al-Samoud 2 (SA2) missiles, which were shipped out of Iraq as "scrap metal."
(TOP SECRET IRAQI FILES FOUND: SADDAM REALLY DID HAVE WMD)
(Jack Kelly: A Syrian sidestep?) About those Iraqi WMDs: More signs are pointing to a neighborly transfer Sunday, February 05, 2006
(What Charles Duelfer Missed) By: Christopher S. Carson FrontPageMagazine.com | Tuesday, June 21, 2005
(Bio-Chemical Weapons & Saddam: A History.) Various Sources | 02-20-03 | PsyOp
I do not have the source of the following, it was a letter from a GI to his father:
He said that there were caches all over the place, buildings filled to the ceiling with boxes of small-arms ammo, equipment, including new chemical-warfare suits, as well as old Gulf War I ammo strewn around the desert areas.
American ordnance experts have stated that there were at least 10,000 such sites that they found (so far), spread across a country the size of California, and no one knows how much material, possibly including weapons of mass destruction (chemical, biological, nuclear) might still lie beneath the sands there. Some planes were found buried under the sand while one photo my son brought back showed a MIG-25 parked in a cornfield; another in the driveway of someone's house.
The total estimated weight of the Iraqi arms caches so far has been calculated to be two and a half times that of the total arms in the whole United States, some 1 million tons or more.
Now that a major from the 3rd has come forward and explained that his small unit had hauled away about 210 tons (quite possibly including some of the claimed 270 tons) for destruction at a designed ordnance handling site, Sen. Kerry began to slink away like a coward in the night, never apologizing to the brave American soldiers of the 3rd and the 101st/82nd Airborne who had fought and then guarded those sites during their stays there.
The American press did what our enemies could not, they destroyed our Military Veracity with out and out lies....the Soros Propaganda Machine and the Anti-American politicians are still doing their best to destroy America now under a vile Socialist/Marxist president and a vicious congress.
VOTE THESE BUMS OUT IN NOVEMBER!
People rarely make giant mistakes for only one reason. You pointed out Saddam’s mistake. The WMD’s he did have were either buried or sent to Syria. The whole world knows it. but the left ignores it and Bush allowed that. That was one of the causes of his failure.
I'm hoping GWB addresses it in his book. I've always believed that the Russians were up to their necks in getting the WMD out of Iraq to hide their complicity with Saddam. That might have affected what info Bush could have made available.
Bush had the annoying habit of doing what was the best for the nation rather than what was best for himself politically.
All the serious chemical weapons shipped out to Syria before the war started.
Everyone knows he had mustard gas artillery shells, that was not the WMD they were looking for and Bush would not have invaded Iraq over those.
Now if they had found advanced biological weapons or tactical nukes that would be another issue entirely.
Exactly. The big question here is WHY? Everyone knew there ere WMD but it was downplayed and Bush became the big bad boogieman. As a result, we now have Soros' puppet in the WH and the RATS are running wild.
During the middle of Bush's term, he acted like he'd had an evasion of the body snatchers. WHY?
The GOP handed the election to the RATS on a silver platter. WHY?
Like this story: Deadly chemicals are found dumped in river, reported by NBC's Dr. Bob Arnot, and then scrubbed down the memory hole.
-PJ
There were pictures of various WMDs on the web at the time.
There was also that interview with Powell and the video of that caravan of trucks hauling something to Syria.
WMD bookmark.
And a scud missile left on the streets of Baghdad.
And all the stuff buried in scientists and government officals' backyards.
And what about all the masks, suits, medicines, etc. found in the bunkers. Of course there were WMD.
Told ya so!! OIF vet
“We know the reason now for the intelligence failure ...Saddam Hussein himself.”
Or those trucks leaving for Syria had them?
bgill—boy, how I wish I knew the answer to that. I’ve asked that question over and over, and never received a satisfactory answer. Usually it’s something like “national security” but honestly, that one makes no sense.
And don’t forget the entire underground nuclear city in the middle of the desert. Years later, an article appears that they shipped a ton (or more than one?) of nuclear material secretly to the US.
But of course, no WMD in Iraq.
“Bush had the annoying habit of doing what was the best for the nation rather than what was best for himself politically.”
That’s what I think. He had to know what was going on. I believe it was better to get the weapons out of Iraq and stashed somewhere where they could be monitored or destroyed then to say they were there and Al Queada use that for propoganda. (I think they got destroyed in Russia with their WMD)
Imagine if Al Queada said that they got hold of one of Saddam’s WMD?
The entire situation was volatile, and Bush/Rumsfeld/Powell had to learn as they went along. What if there was a behind the scene deal to use Russia to move the WMD for whatever reason? It couldn’t be publicly revealed.
Sometimes you just have to trust the judgement of your leader. That’s why elections are so important.
” Usually it’s something like “national security” but honestly, that one makes no sense. “
Here’s a speculation —
The revelation of the full WMD story would have revealed facts that would have constituted ‘casus belli’ against Russia (remember the reports - since swept under the rug and lost - in the runup to OIF that a batallion of Russian Special Forces were escorting convoys to Syria??) and China...
There is a possiblilty that the Bush Administration was subjected to nuclear and economic blackmail from our erstwhile ‘allies’, if the subject of WMD wasn’t dropped....
/speculation
The entire media was in an uproar about the secret weapons Saddam was hiding outside Bagdad. But somehow they forget the alarm THEY sounded.
I question whether this was “best for the nation” in the first place. He opened himself up for vilification, and made it easy for a poser like Obama to come along and do untold damage to the country. The truth might have been a better policy in this case.
fyi
Elections go in cycles. I actually think GWB did the right thing in keeping this under wraps. And, there are times when you just allow the truth to set you free without having to always defend yourself. This is the road our President took.
The media was out to get Bush for everything, and this is just another incident where they will be shown to have a liberal bias. Thus, hurting their credibility even more.
It’ll all come out in the wash, as they say.
Bush was the President we needed at the time, and thank God Al Gore wasn’t in office.
Whether he defended himself or not, the media would’ve had their talking points just the same. I can’t believe that people still believe what they hear in the lamestream media. They’re no better than our liar-in-chief, in fact, they’re one in the same.
However, there is a higher power they will answer to one of these days. And, that includes zero.
Maybe. Unfortunately, no one gets an accurate crystal ball issued with the job.
You should see the look on leftist faces when I tell them that everyone knows there were WMD found in Iraq.
Amen.
However, there is a higher power they will answer to one of these days. And, that includes zero.
Hear, hear!
I disagree so strongly! Had Bush told the truth in this instance, we might not have had an Obama presidency. Bush made similar really bad decisions on border enforcement and other things. I liked the man, but he wasn’t the leader I hoped he’d be. After standing by the NYC fireman in the rubble of 9/11, it was all downhill.
According to the latest batch of Wikileak documents. In particular, coalition troops kept coming across numerous artillery shells filled with mustard gas.
Well, that might explain Bush's body snatcher problem. He went from all powerful after 9/11 to an empty sack midway through. Something truly big happened to change not only him but far too many of our congressmen and supremes.
We are probably not young enough to be around when the real story of the Saddam’s WMDs comes out.
Then it will be buried by the liberal mediots.
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