Skip to comments.Democrats at DEFCON 1: Is Christine O’Donnell now leading in internals?
Posted on 10/26/2010 3:25:39 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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I bow completely to you.
You are right on every point.
TPTB = “The Powers That Be”...the elite, the establishment, and so on...
Thanks for the clarification.
I’ll point out that no matter the outcome of this COD election, those calling her an awful candidate seem to conveniently overlook one thing.
She’s all we had to get rid of Mike Castle.
We’ve tried so long to get that man out of there and the Delaware GOP were so smug that they never tried to train or groom a replacement. Although for the record COD is one of the nicest people. I know her personally and she’s a good, decent Christian woman, believe what you want.
But if there was out there some kind of former Eagle Scout turned marine commander ready for sainthood candidate in waiting, the Delaware GOP kept running the old fossel Castle over and over.
Since this is America and perish the thought that voters should have a say or anything, we had a right to throw Castle out. O’Donnell WAS the GOP nominee for 2008, a fact that those who call her an awful candidate seem to forget.
So if nothing else, well hey, we got Coons and he’ll probably vote for Cap and Trade. Mike Castle DID vote for Cap and Trade in the House, we know this for a fact. So it’s not much of a stretch to say he’d likely have voted for it in the senate.
If Coons win, well at least we got a Democrat voting like a Democrat and us silly moron voters, that’s exactly how we wanted it.
Or maybe those who think COD is such an awful candidate would have preferred Mike Castle?
Yeah, I’d rather have Coons than Castle.
She is very pretty. Very cute. Very much the sort of girl that every good conservative boy had a crush on in high school. But that's both a blessing and a curse. Her demeanor is just not what one normally associates with candidates for high office. She doesn't come across as a Senator, and that lends itself to ridicule.
That scares the Democrats.
No, it doesn't.
Based on her performances in the debates, she should have rock solid conservative support. They will be voting for her.
As they most likely would have done anyway, but that's not enough to make up the large difference between R and D registration in Delaware. Meaning that the operative question remains: was her debate performance sufficient to reverse her numbers among the independents, from her previous trailing position to the needed large majority? We'll see what newer polls have to say about that, but my bet would be against any large swings among independents.
Where in the first amendment? was huge for conservatives.
As a "gotcha" sort of statement, maybe. However, given again that the conservatives were going to vote for her anyway, how do you suppose that little exchange played among the independents? Was it enough to reverse her polling deficit among them?
Probably not. And the truth is that Coons' response was actually correct -- according to a long series of court decisions, the idea of "separation of church and state" defines the working interpretation of the Establishment Clause, even if the exact words themselves are not.
I agree. Plus, what is the upshot to beating O’Donnell because Barry came in to save the day? What is the media spin on that victory, since they have portrayed COD as a crackpot who is a joke for a candidate?
I knew we shoulda nominated Castle.
I’ve heard over and over and over and over that “a conservative can’t win in this state” or “a conservative can’t win in that state”.
This is certainly a test of that.
If Christine wins, a conservative can win in any state with as many Conservatives as Delaware or more.
If Christine loses, some would argue that a conservative can’t win with as many Conservatives as Delaware or less.
Rhode Island has the same amount of Conservatives as Delaware.
Hawaii has fewer Conservatives than Delaware.
Every other state has MORE CONSERVATIVES than Delaware.
So, if Christine wins, we can run Conservatives in every state and can win in every state except Hawaii.
And that’s what people on the RINO side and the Left know full well.
The left is fully happy being opposed by a party that doesn’t really try to undo any of the terrible things the left has brought us.
The RINOs don’t want to lose their jobs.
Coons is a nasty troll. Short bald trust fund guy. He gets the inventor money, but doesn’t have the inventor gene. He has the “inhereted wealth” gene. The entitlement gene. I’d rather his step dad Robert Gore be Senator. At least Robert Gore did something by inventing Gore-tex. Coons just took that privileged background and is buying himself a political career with it.
If he wasn’t super rich and didn’t have his super rich dad buying his way into these schools, if he had a background like Christines, would he be anywhere near the US Senate?
Of course not. He’s a terrible candidate. Christine is a great candidate. Especially for Delaware.
Yes. If everyone in DE could spend five minutes with each of these candidates, Christine would win 90 to 10. She really is who we all would want representing us. She has made mistakes and learned from them. She is smart but humble. She has character. If she wins, she will be among the finest senators who have ever served.
I would be more than pleased to see her in the U.S. Senate come November 3rd...I think she is a fine candidate.
Well let me say that you did a fine job of illustrating how Coons would be a big nothing burger were it not for his wealth. Wealth Christine did not have.
But she’s an attractive female and just doesn’t present as a senator and that leaves her open to ridicule.
This is how the elite Blue Blood Ruling Class sees things.
Christine O’Donnell is just the nicest, most pleasant person, she believes in her faith, she’s been well liked since 2005 here in Delaware. It’s not the woman fell out of the sky. She was also Delaware’s GOP nominee for senator in 2008...my how we forget that fact.
It’s not that Christine is such an awful candidate...it’s that she’s not rich, didn’t go to Harvard, is an attractive female.....
WE SHOULDA NOMINATED CASTLE....WHAT FOOLS WE ARE!
I think to call her someone prime for ridicule....it’s just such a mean thing to say. Yeah I’ll allow that the liberals probably consider COD someone to mock. They HATE Christians and God knows a nice attractive woman is the stuff to throw darts at.
But to not see that a midget burger bald nothing sandwich Marxist like Coons would be an awful candidate too if he had no money to buy friends in high places, to send him overseas to come back and hate America, ...well I guess to some folks it’s really all about wealth and privelage, not who you really are.
Well okay, the liberals will say it because the liberals are filled with hate. But to see someone supposed to be on our side call this really nice person an awful candidate, it really hurts. I consider Christine almost like a daughter.
I tell you, if you had time to spend with Christine you’d be proud to have her run for senator. Well Castle lovers, Karl Rove....those kind of entrenched, they disparage her.
The Ruling Class is not happy with Christine.
The consensus -- although no more than speculation at this point -- is that Castle would have defeated Coons, having already won numerous statewide elections as a Republican over the past three decades, despite the large preponderance of Democrats in the state.
Being ahead of O'Donnell doesn't mean that Coons has suddenly become a good candidate; rather, it suggthat he's simply more electable than O'Donnell, if only because of the large disparity of D vs. R voters.
If Christine loses, some would argue that a conservative cant win with as many Conservatives as Delaware or less.
Some might argue that; I wouldn't. Had more time and effort been put into finding a more credible conservative candidate for Delaware, I would be willing to bet that person would have a fair shot at beating Coons.
If he wasnt super rich and didnt have his super rich dad buying his way into these schools, if he had a background like Christines, would he be anywhere near the US Senate?
Spoken like a true orbitologist -
That is someone who runs in circles chasing their own tails - right?
One week from right now we will be seeing how wrong you were.
Sour grapes what?
I’m just saying that his own personal qualities make him a bad candidate. Bad candidates can get far with a lot of money, and a resume built on top of working for his dad’s company for 8 years. It’s not his style, his zazz, his good looks, charm or anything. Christine has all of those things, but not the traditional resume.
Right about the conservative in Delaware. If she lost, and I think she’ll win, the counter argument in favor of a conservative in Delaware is something about her personal qualities.
The main point there is though, that only Hawaii has fewer Conservatives.
If they want to use Christine as an example of what happens when you nominate a Conservative, we can say 100% truthfully, that every other state you want to apply the “Christine lesson” to has even more Conservatives than Delaware. But X state has more Conservatives, one would say.
Christine will have extremely high turnout among Conservatives. We talk about Republican turnout, but Conservative turnout for Christine will be over 60%. The same number of Conservatives and Republicans in DE - 29% - but they’re not the same people. And plenty of non ideological moderates, Republicans, Independents, and Democrats will vote for Christine for any number of reasons.
Some moderates will hold their nose and vote for Christine because they don’t want to continue the Obama agenda.
Coons is not as personally popular as Manchin in WV. It’s not a case where Coons will outperform Obama like Manchin is appearing to do in WV.
The last poll on your list is October 14.
I remember the Hillary types from two years ago. They were mad. They were angry...on and on.
O'Donnell is tea party while Rossi and Fiorina are not. Obviously the libs would rather pile on tea party type candidates.
You don't see that.
A key thing to note about this race is that the media holds a set of beliefs that the average American does not believe.
They’re trying to sell the leftist idea, the elite ideas, the anti religion, the pro gay, etc etc. And Christine is the first person to go directly against almost everything they believe. It’s a direct attack on them and everything they stand for. Good vs Evil. And they saw that and made everything about her. They don’t understand that they aren’t popular with the person right in the middle. And that’s where all this is coming from.
We’re looking at a huge tsunami, right? It looks that way.
And what has been a large part of the media strategy to keep
that tsunamie small? Attack Christine. How’s that going media? How your Democrats doing in the early voting?
The desire of the media to attack Christianity is stronger than their ability to understand that attacking Christianity will lose them votes. That fact, that the media, time and time again, will attack Christianity and Christians even if it’s going to hurt them, was known to many here, by me and others, way before the primary. Did the media point out anything about what the Republicans would actually do if they were elected that swing voters might care about? Nope.
Just that Christine agrees with Clarence Thomas on the Establishment Clause. More people than the media thinks agree with Christine on that. And, it’s not an issue.
But the media just can’t help themselves. Christine has stayed on message. Coons is rubber stamp for Obama. The media is talking about irrelevancies, because it’s their sacred cow being attacked. And all over the place Republicans are strolling easily to victory.
We gave the Democrats their message “attack Christine, here, look. You think it’ll work for you, and we know it won’t. Win Win.” Lovely beautiful Christine with a normal background without wealth, attack her, and be brutal about it. Average people will not respond well to that. The media does not understand average people, does not like average people, and doesn’t realize that average people would be sickened by the attacks on Christine.
And I doubt he saw the crosstabs on that one. Rasmussen keeps the details of their polls available only to Platinum members.
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