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When Will We Have Artificial Intelligence?
High Level Logic (HLL) Open Source Project ^ | November 13, 2010 | Roger F. Gay

Posted on 11/13/2010 5:28:58 AM PST by RogerFGay

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To: RogerFGay
What if AI has already developed into a highly advanced form such that it has utilized an entire universe as part of it's being.

What if that AI is beaming a hologram of itself into other universes for "companionship" or perhaps just plain old hunger.

21 posted on 11/13/2010 6:14:39 AM PST by InternetTuffGuy
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To: fuzzybutt

And here I thought the parrotting of Soros’ words on TOTUS and out of Reid’s & Pelosi’s mouths simply demonsrated SkyNet is already aware.


22 posted on 11/13/2010 6:15:36 AM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: rbg81

There was a scientist who was asked, “Will there ever be a computer as intelligent as a human?” He answered, “Yes, but only for a few moments”.


23 posted on 11/13/2010 6:21:30 AM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: BuckeyeTexan

“When will we have artificial intelligence?

“We” elected it on 11-4-2008.”

Lol! You beat me...


24 posted on 11/13/2010 6:23:21 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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25 posted on 11/13/2010 6:26:10 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Tublecane

His words were “Je pense donc je suis” (original in French not the Latino “Cogito ergo sum” often attributed). He may have MEANT “I think therefore I know that I am”, but his words were “I think therefore I am.” I think your phrasing makes more sense, however. Otherwise the point could be made in a number of other ways, such as “I hear, therefore I am” or “I eat, therefore I am.”

Frankly, I never thought that this statement was very deep, or even true. Much exists that has no knowledge of its existence. And it is not the conscienceness of one’s existence that makes one exist. A stone has no awareness of its existence, yet it exists. The “therefore” makes no sense.


26 posted on 11/13/2010 6:27:16 AM PST by NCLaw441
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To: Tublecane

Precisely. It will not be “AI” until the computer is “self-aware” and self-programming. Short of that, it’s just a really fast number-cruncher.


27 posted on 11/13/2010 6:32:10 AM PST by Sudetenland (Slow to anger but terrible in vengence...such is the character of the American people.)
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To: Tublecane
Actually, to get Descartes meaning, it would be best phrased as “I think therefore I know that I am.”

It needs to be followed up with, "Of course I could be wrong".

28 posted on 11/13/2010 6:33:35 AM PST by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: KoRn

Al Gore?


29 posted on 11/13/2010 6:45:28 AM PST by DaveArk
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To: KoRn

Perhaps the study of artificial stupidity would yield some seriously interesting results; just like understanding evil provides insight into morality.


30 posted on 11/13/2010 6:49:15 AM PST by RogerFGay
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To: fuzzybutt

Some of this stuff seems to go slowly (in computer technology evolution time, which is actually quite rapid) because of the small amount of funding it has. It’s easy to think I’m wrong about that, especially when governments have put tons of money into robotics R&D over the past decade. But when something becomes profitable, that’s when the sales->competition->R&D cycle kicks in and you get a much, much larger number of people involved in development.


31 posted on 11/13/2010 6:53:45 AM PST by RogerFGay
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To: fuzzybutt

And I also meant to provide you with this link; re: autonomous vehicles: http://edition.cnn.com/2010/TECH/innovation/10/27/driverless.car/


32 posted on 11/13/2010 6:54:34 AM PST by RogerFGay
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To: InternetTuffGuy

Interesting. I’ve been watching episodes of Space 1999 lately. Last night I watched the one where an AI being in the form of a space ship tried to kidnap 3 of the main characters to replace his “companion,” a human that died.


33 posted on 11/13/2010 6:56:41 AM PST by RogerFGay
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To: RogerFGay

Even more relevant - when will we have magnetic bubble memory?


34 posted on 11/13/2010 6:58:24 AM PST by bkepley
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To: NCLaw441

“He may have MEANT ‘I think therefore I know that I am’, but his words were ‘I think therefore I am.’”

Yes, I was, as I said, trying to get at what he meant. Which, however catchy, can be misleading.

“Frankly, I never thought that this statement was very deep, or even true”

I think it’s true and shallower (or narrower, if you will) than people give it credit for. It does all come down, after all, to a single sudden, basic, emotional response. You must simply realize that you are thinking, and that’s the whole trick.

“Much exists that has no knowledge of its existence”

That’s not really the point, though. Descartes is very specifically inquiring into whether he, a thinking person, can be fooled into thinking he exists. The ruse of the “malicious demon” (or, as one commentator put it, the rather accomodating demon), who’s trying to trick you into believing you exist when you really don’t, wouldn’t work on things that can’t think.

“And it is not the conscienceness of one’s existence that makes one exist.”

No, but if you follow his logic, he realize that’s not what he’s saying. All it is is that consciousness leads one to realize that you cannot be fooled into thinking that you exist when you don’t. Because you must exist in order to think.

“The ‘therefore’ makes no sense.”

It does within the train of thought.


35 posted on 11/13/2010 7:00:05 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: NCLaw441

“Which, however catchy, can be misleading.”

Cogito ergo sum, I meant, can be misleading.


36 posted on 11/13/2010 7:01:32 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: fuzzybutt

“Judgement call” AI is already used extensively in medical screening and diagnosis and it has been for over 15 years. It may have even been used on you and your family.


37 posted on 11/13/2010 7:02:07 AM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: NCLaw441

“he realize that’s not what he’s saying” = you realize that’s not what he’s saying


38 posted on 11/13/2010 7:02:53 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: Sudetenland

That’s not the correct definition of AI.


39 posted on 11/13/2010 7:04:30 AM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Kirkwood
According to whom?

Self-awareness is a primary aspect of what is called "intelligence." The ability to make independent decisions is a primary aspect of intelligence. Any computer which does not display both aspects is does not have "Artifical intelligence."
40 posted on 11/13/2010 7:09:49 AM PST by Sudetenland (Slow to anger but terrible in vengence...such is the character of the American people.)
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