Skip to comments."Mystery" Contrail Was Either US Airways Flight 808 or UPS Cargo Flight 902
Posted on 11/18/2010 6:19:00 AM PST by alg1921
It was US Airways flight 808 Or was it? New evidence points to UPS902
One of my commenters below has given me some critical information that has lead me to update my assessment of what flight caused the "mystery missile" contrail. Make no mistake, I stand by my assertion that the event was nothing more than a contrail, however, new, solid data has come in that has me changing my theory that the contrail in question was not caused by US Airways flight 808 (AWE808) but rather my second contender, United Parcel Service flight 902 (UPS902). In fact I believe I can definitively say that UPS 902 was the flight that created the contrail on November 8, 2010.
In my investigation of this event, there have been a number of uncertainties, which I have been clear about:
* the position of the helicopter * the direction of the news camera * the field of view of the news camera * the field of view of the Newport Brach camera * the time and date of the news video
The new webcam image that has me changing my initial assessment is a fixed camera at the Los Angeles International Airport operated by the Countryman & McDaniel law offices (www.cargolaw.com). This camera has given me a known, fixed point of view and an exact timestamp to work with.
(Excerpt) Read more at blog.bahneman.com ...
Yep, by SLBM.
It appears to mirror the radar track of USAir 808:
I really wish it had been a contrail....but it wasn’t.
I’d bet my life on it.
You didn’t see what you saw, 2+2=5 and we’ve always been at war with East Asia.
The video shows a payload rising on a solid-fuel booster rocket. Distance to rocket, maybe 30 to 40 miles seen from a chase angle. You can even see a flame.
It's either a missile, a lone booster or a boosted payload, launched from the middle of the ordnance testing range: NAS Point Mugu.
San Nicolas island (part of NAS Mugu) is right under the putative launch point.
Don't know why FReepers are so quick to credit 'exhaustive investigations' and ignore the evidence of their own eyes. There's video.
Because interpetation of visual data can be faulty.
It can be influenced by preconceived notions, perspective illusions, contrast and color effects.
All we need now is polarik to tell us it was a forgery. And provide “proof” that changes by the minute...as soon as the last “proof” doesn’t pan out.
And digital artifacts. A digital video camera essentially does approximations between frames and records only a limited set of differences. At extreme ranges, extremes in contrast, and limited bandwidth, the artifacts can become significant.
I do not like being lied to.
I am inclined to agree with you - I have never seen a plane with flames coming out of the back end! There is no getting around that fact on the video.
Of course it wasn't.
Probing and testing the enemy is an essential preliminary to combat.
How could they tell that it was UPS 902? Was the smoke brown? :-)
Dude it was a missile. Numerous experts have viewed the film footage and have said without a shred of doubt it was an ICBM missile launched from a submarine. It was not flight 808 or the UPS. It was most likely the Chi Coms expressing their displeasure with the US for trying to do a stealth default on our debt to them by devaluing our dollar. Stop with the plane scenario already. We are all grown ups. It was a missile. The world is a dangerous place. It just got more dangerous.
I find it awfully coincidental that this happened right around the time there was talk for restarting the START talks with Russia.
I know Ubama doesn't have the nads to send Russia a message so I know WE didn't launch it.
Our reaction time was like Sonny Liston vs Cassius Clay.
Hey, wait a minute, Sonny took a dive, didn't he?
“I do not like being lied to”.
Me either but I guess I am getting used to it. I have no expertise in this sort of thing but I don’t believe the government at all. They tell us what they want us to believe and they can make any sort of documents/photos/statements look like what they want us to believe. Nothing here folks, just move along. Just a thought.
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