Skip to comments.Obama Isnít Carter, He Is Nixon
Posted on 11/22/2010 10:26:37 AM PST by Shout Bits
Pres. Obamas detractors in the media compare him to Pres. Carter, whose watch included economic malaise, foreign policy failures, and leftist politics, but Obamas attitudes and policies are closer to Pres. Nixon. From enemy lists in the media, to manipulating the legal system, to attempting to half win / half exit a war, to disastrous monetary policy, Obama is Nixon part II. . .
(Excerpt) Read more at shoutbits.com ...
Totally insulting to Nixon. Nixon at the very least loved the USA... and he helped save Israel during the 1973 War.
Nixon was not trying to destroy the country. Especially on matters of foreign policy, Obama is much more like Carter.
Don’t trot out Nixon’s thaw with the Red Chinese. At the time he was trying to keep China and the Soviet Union from ganging up on us.
Carter, on the other hand, actively pulled the rug out from under the Shah of Iran, leaving us with the Mullahs and slapped around our allies while “making nice” with our enemies. This is clearly a blueprint followed by Obama.
What a stupid analysis. At least Nixon had the entire MSM aligned against him and his major policies were politically popular. Other than that I guess they were identical ..
Obama is a marxist so that would make him Lenin right?
Agreed. This writer is an idiot. Nixon's eternal war with the press was because he was an anticommunist.
Read up on James Buchanan and then get back to me.
Not quite. The Chinese & Russians had already fallen out. They were fighting significant battles over river islands along their common border in Siberia. The Russian's had even approached the US in a backdoor appeal to get our reaction if they chose to Nuke China. We basically vetoed the idea.
Nixon's approach to China was to re-balance the security arrangements in Asia to give the US breathing space as we exited Vietnam. Russia was Vietnam's major backer by the end of US involvement.
The strategic opening to China was masterful, but it didn't take a genius to know that there was no love lost between Mao & Brezhnev.
You’re right on the money- Carter sowed the seeds for the nighmare muslim radicalism we are seeing right now
If Iran had succeed in becoming an economic success instead of a muslim stronghold then there would be students there shouting for laptops and outsourcing contracts instead of diaper-heads screaming for death to america right now.
When they took over our embassy we sould have bombed the heads of their religious revolution to go collect their virgins.
Notice that about 10 seconds after Ronald Reagan took office, they released the hostages. I firmly believe he made it known that his first act as President would be to leave big smoking holes in the ground where their military bases used to be.
Obama is not Carter or Nixon, he is Hugo Chavez w/ Eva Peron’s hormones.
Nixon was a patriot. He recognized the marxist element within our country long before most. I wonder how this country might look today if Nixon had never existed.
Actually Obama is Obama. A life form only physically matured that claims to be influenced by many in history albeit Carter, and Nixon seem omitted from that personal list. There was the time he claimed to be the new Abraham Lincoln, then John F. Kennedy, another time a hint of Teddy Roosevelt, and overall of course the new F.D.R..
He’s IMO a cobbled together Leftist Commie willing participant in a fraud imposed upon our Nation by behind the scenes demented cobblers that must be exposed, and destroyed for the Free World, for Free Mankind to exist.
Otherwise the World will go dark for ages.
I don’t have clue what you are saying. I was agreeing that the author was insulting Nixon.
Welcome to Free Republic!
Iran WAS an economic success. The Shah was one of America's most loyal allies, then Carter betrayed him for no reason at all.
Nixon was competent, Carter was not. Obama may be as paranoid as Nixon, but he’s got more in common with Carter.
Yep, Nixon’s paranoia with Carter’s incompetence. Not a good combination.
True, but his inability to actually lead on any issue makes his comparison to Buchanan apt.
How old are you?
This is a conservative forum...we don’t usually buy the hype about Nixon.
especially those of us old enough to recall
imperfect yes...Obama?...get outta here.
Not even close. Obama couldn’t shine Nixon’s shoes..
Thank you for the more detailed analysis, but my comment was meant to remind people that at the time Nixon approached China there was a viable threat from the Soviet Union.
Whenever you have two enemies who have a falling out, you seek to drive a wedge between them and you consider opportunities to shore up the weaker of the two. This is especially true if their conflict could come to blows. My father used to describe this as the “let’s you and him fight” strategy.
There are lots of Freepers who were not around during these times and are not aware of some of the subtle things which transpired. One of my coworkers last month tried to imply that the Soviet Union had already collapsed at the time of the Nixon presidency. I have no idea where he got this stupid idea. It occurred to me that the left probably promotes this revisionist history in order to (1) give cover to Carter for his idiotic stance toward the Soviet Union and (2) deny any credit to President Ronald Reagan for the subsequent collapse.
A lot of folks never did catch on the fact that the Soviet Union was a much bigger supporter of the North Vietnamese during the war than the Chinese. Going back even further, one of the things that annoys me about the TV program MASH is that they push the allusion that the Chinese were the main backers of the North Koreans when the Soviets were the primary backers as evidenced by peace overtures soon after the death of Stalin and the subsequent internal political instability in the Soviet Union.
This original article is horribly off target.
However as you mentioned there is a seed of truth there...
I’m reminded of the old joke:
“Heaven is where the Police are British, the Chefs are French, the Mechanics are German, the Lovers Italian and it’s all organised by the Swiss.
Hell is where the Chefs are British, the mechanics are French, the lovers are Swiss, the Police are German and it’s all organised by the Italians.”
Basically need to put that into a
“In Heaven, a Democrat President is as compassionate as Hoover, intelligent as Jefferson...
In Reality, Obama is as incompetent as Carter, as Paranoid as Nixon, as egotistical as Clinton, as classless as Jackson... “
there is a good joke in there.... needs some work and can get Americans of all political persuasions laughing at the Teleprompters’ President.
I must have missed all of those Soviet troops pouring across the Yalu River.
Nixion was a progressive, but also a foreign policy master that wouldn’t sell the U.S. out to our foes.
No.. he is Carter.. Nixson had BALLS.. Carter is inveneral..
On that you are correct. The Chinese and Vietnamese hate each other. In fact the Chinese were the supporters of the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia, and were ticked off that the Vietnamese were the ones who ousted Pol Pot and company. It led briefly to a war between the two in 1979. And the Vietnamese were literally begging for us to return to Cam Ranh Bay, after the collapse of the Soviet Union, because they still fear the ChiComs.
“I must have missed all of those Soviet troops pouring across the Yalu River.”
Yes, carrying American weapons supplied by the Soviets via lend-lease from WII. The Chinese clearly supplied bodies, but the Soviets supplied the money. Always follow the money. After Stalin died the power struggle in the Soviet Union was around how much of their economic output should be expended on “guns” rather than “butter”. The “butter” boys won and a cessation of hostilities was reached in North Korea soon thereafter, because the Chinese had no industrial infrastructure to support the war.
While it MIGHT have been possible to avoid the Civil War (although I don't believe there is any way our country could have remained united without the abolition of slavery), Buchanan made it inevitable. Obama might be doing exactly the same thing.
I see your point better now. Stalin and Mao were close during those years. It was Stalin who propped up Kim Il Sung before Mao took power in China. But after the war, they were clearly in the Chinese camp.
There are no adequate comparisons.
Because, there is no other president that loathed the country.
Although this article will probably make a few liberal heads explode (a good thing), and although Nixon was riddled with faults (wage/price controls, etc), Obama is no Nixon.
Nixon was a patriot.
Obama hates America.
End Of Comparison.
Iran was a mess. The Iranian people hated the Shah and his secret police, and there was an active revolutionary movement that had broad support among the population. Moreover, radical Islam had already found its foothold there, before Carter abandoned Iran.
Carter certainly made things worse ... but he didn't create the problem.
Perhaps ... but he was also paranoid and crooked. In that, he's very much like Obama.
I don't see why the author insists on an either/or comparoson, though. Obama is very much like Carter, as well.
However, he was definitely a Keynesian in economic policy.
Plus he had some of the same utopian foreign policy ideas as Woodrow Wilson, but not as bad.
To understand Nixon, you need to understand the same Northeast/New England RINO wing of the party who gave us Tom Dewey, Eisenhower, the Rockerfeller family, the Romney family, the Bush family, etc.
Remember, Nixon chose to base himself in New York post presidency, so he would be close to this group. Where do you think he got Henry Kissinger, Melvin Laird and most of his non-California appointments?
Still, he was not the evil persona created by the DNC stenographer pool. Plus he had a sense of shame, something Obama never had and never will.
I never disputed any of that. The fact remains that Iran was an economic success.
Moreover, radical Islam had already found its foothold there, before Carter abandoned Iran.
The Shah may have fallen even with American support, but Iran's fate was sealed when Carter betrayed him.
As Walter Sobchak would shout, “Hey, you’re over the foul line, man!”
The best comparison is to Chavez.
DITTO on that!
OBAMA is Hugo Chavez without the military experience.
Nixon was not the Pied Piper type at all. OBAMA is. That is why our kids, over pampered and uneducated due to Public Schools and the so called 'Teacher's' Unions will make easy followers.
This type of scoundrel would never have been this successful if he were dealing with the Greatest Generation instead of their grandchildren.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.