Posted on 11/22/2010 10:26:37 AM PST by Shout Bits
Pres. Obama’s detractors in the media compare him to Pres. Carter, whose watch included economic malaise, foreign policy failures, and leftist politics, but Obama’s attitudes and policies are closer to Pres. Nixon. From enemy lists in the media, to manipulating the legal system, to attempting to half win / half exit a war, to disastrous monetary policy, Obama is Nixon part II. . .
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True, but his inability to actually lead on any issue makes his comparison to Buchanan apt.
How old are you?
This is a conservative forum...we don’t usually buy the hype about Nixon.
especially those of us old enough to recall
imperfect yes...Obama?...get outta here.
Agreed.
Not even close. Obama couldn’t shine Nixon’s shoes..
Thank you for the more detailed analysis, but my comment was meant to remind people that at the time Nixon approached China there was a viable threat from the Soviet Union.
Whenever you have two enemies who have a falling out, you seek to drive a wedge between them and you consider opportunities to shore up the weaker of the two. This is especially true if their conflict could come to blows. My father used to describe this as the “let’s you and him fight” strategy.
There are lots of Freepers who were not around during these times and are not aware of some of the subtle things which transpired. One of my coworkers last month tried to imply that the Soviet Union had already collapsed at the time of the Nixon presidency. I have no idea where he got this stupid idea. It occurred to me that the left probably promotes this revisionist history in order to (1) give cover to Carter for his idiotic stance toward the Soviet Union and (2) deny any credit to President Ronald Reagan for the subsequent collapse.
A lot of folks never did catch on the fact that the Soviet Union was a much bigger supporter of the North Vietnamese during the war than the Chinese. Going back even further, one of the things that annoys me about the TV program MASH is that they push the allusion that the Chinese were the main backers of the North Koreans when the Soviets were the primary backers as evidenced by peace overtures soon after the death of Stalin and the subsequent internal political instability in the Soviet Union.
This original article is horribly off target.
However as you mentioned there is a seed of truth there...
I’m reminded of the old joke:
“Heaven is where the Police are British, the Chefs are French, the Mechanics are German, the Lovers Italian and it’s all organised by the Swiss.
Hell is where the Chefs are British, the mechanics are French, the lovers are Swiss, the Police are German and it’s all organised by the Italians.”
Basically need to put that into a
“In Heaven, a Democrat President is as compassionate as Hoover, intelligent as Jefferson...
In Reality, Obama is as incompetent as Carter, as Paranoid as Nixon, as egotistical as Clinton, as classless as Jackson... “
there is a good joke in there.... needs some work and can get Americans of all political persuasions laughing at the Teleprompters’ President.
I must have missed all of those Soviet troops pouring across the Yalu River.
Nixion was a progressive, but also a foreign policy master that wouldn’t sell the U.S. out to our foes.
No.. he is Carter.. Nixson had BALLS.. Carter is inveneral..
Nope, Nixon could bowl.
On that you are correct. The Chinese and Vietnamese hate each other. In fact the Chinese were the supporters of the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia, and were ticked off that the Vietnamese were the ones who ousted Pol Pot and company. It led briefly to a war between the two in 1979. And the Vietnamese were literally begging for us to return to Cam Ranh Bay, after the collapse of the Soviet Union, because they still fear the ChiComs.
“I must have missed all of those Soviet troops pouring across the Yalu River.”
Yes, carrying American weapons supplied by the Soviets via lend-lease from WII. The Chinese clearly supplied bodies, but the Soviets supplied the money. Always follow the money. After Stalin died the power struggle in the Soviet Union was around how much of their economic output should be expended on “guns” rather than “butter”. The “butter” boys won and a cessation of hostilities was reached in North Korea soon thereafter, because the Chinese had no industrial infrastructure to support the war.
While it MIGHT have been possible to avoid the Civil War (although I don't believe there is any way our country could have remained united without the abolition of slavery), Buchanan made it inevitable. Obama might be doing exactly the same thing.
I see your point better now. Stalin and Mao were close during those years. It was Stalin who propped up Kim Il Sung before Mao took power in China. But after the war, they were clearly in the Chinese camp.
There are no adequate comparisons.
Because, there is no other president that loathed the country.
Although this article will probably make a few liberal heads explode (a good thing), and although Nixon was riddled with faults (wage/price controls, etc), Obama is no Nixon.
Nixon was a patriot.
Obama hates America.
End Of Comparison.
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