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Hydraulic Fracturing the Key to Michiganís Energy Future
Michigan Capitol Confidential ^ | 11/23/2010 | Russ Harding

Posted on 11/23/2010 11:33:39 AM PST by MichCapCon

The United States has ample natural gas supplies to provide the nation's energy needs for the remainder of the century. The problem is that much of the natural gas is found in deep shale formations several thousand feet below the earth's surface. Geologists have known for years that the natural gas was there, but no one knew how to economically recover it. That has changed with the use of modern hydraulic fracturing technology combined with horizontal drilling techniques.

Wind and other alternative energy get most of the attention from politicians and the media, but producing natural gas by hydraulic fracturing, or "fracking" as it is commonly referred to, is far more important to America's ability to provide affordable and dependable energy to heat our homes and power our industries.

(Excerpt) Read more at michigancapitolconfidential.com ...


TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: environment; fracking; hydraulicfracturing; methane; michigan; naturalgas
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1 posted on 11/23/2010 11:33:44 AM PST by MichCapCon
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To: MichCapCon

Big fights over this. Which state will win? NY, Penn, Mich


2 posted on 11/23/2010 11:40:31 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: MichCapCon

what is the potential or estimated supply for natural gas beneath Michigan utilizing ‘fracking’ techniques?

I know that a lot is being done in PA and NY but I hadn’t heard anything about Michigan and the article doesn’t really indicate what may be there....?


3 posted on 11/23/2010 11:40:49 AM PST by Enchante (What if the Olberdork returned to the air - and no one notices.... or cares?)
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To: MichCapCon

They are going to destroy all the groundwater reservoirs around where this will be done.


4 posted on 11/23/2010 11:42:05 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Enchante
what is the potential or estimated supply for natural gas beneath Michigan utilizing ‘fracking’ techniques?

Lots, but none of it will be allowed to be recovered. The greenies will regulate away any possibility of recovery. They hate America that bad.

5 posted on 11/23/2010 11:45:57 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Secret Agent Man
They are going to destroy all the groundwater reservoirs around where this will be done.

You've bought into the anti-fracking propaganda from the left. Fracking does not spread cracks from the target formation thousands of feet deep into near-surface groundwater formations - that would instead be counterproductive by allowing natural gas to leave the target formation instead of entering the wellbore for collection at the surface. Basic regulations like those in place in North Dakota make sure that well casing is properly set to protect groundwater and that leftover fracking fluid is properly disposed of to protect surface water.

And fracking is hardly new, it's been around for decades. The only difference now is the scale with the fracking of horizonal wells.

6 posted on 11/23/2010 11:48:40 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: MichCapCon

Gas companies started fracking here in Arkansas a couple of years ago, and now we have areas (specifically the community of Guy) experiencing 1-10 earthquakes a day, up to 3.9 richter. Is it caused by the fracking? Can’t say for certain, but we didn’t have all the e’quakes beforehand. Draw your own conclusions. - OB1


7 posted on 11/23/2010 11:50:28 AM PST by OB1kNOb (Don't make me go ALL CAPS on you.)
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To: Enchante

All of the drilling is in PA for the Marcellus Shale. I believe that NY has a drilling moratorium.


8 posted on 11/23/2010 11:52:09 AM PST by Born Conservative ("I'm a fan of disruptors" - Nancy Pelosi)
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To: MichCapCon

This technology and concept is well proven (pardon the pun)... The Barnett Shale runs from Oklahoma down through Fort Worth, Texas and the adjacent area. Since around 2000 over 8000 natural gas wells - mostly still producing - have been drilled here... Mostly in Wise County, Tarrant County (greater Fort Worth) and Johnson and Parker counties...

This has meant everything to a better economy for our area - well service companies are everywhere... truckers of all nature... drilling rigs with employees actively working everywhere you look.

We had a downturn for a while after 2008 - but it is coming back strong.

Bottom line - It works ....


9 posted on 11/23/2010 11:55:27 AM PST by ICCtheWay
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To: Secret Agent Man

The entire great lakes basin? Thousands of square miles.


10 posted on 11/23/2010 11:58:21 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: MichCapCon

Because of the success being had in other shale gas plays, there is now a glut of natural gas on the market. Since shale gas is more expensive to produce than conventional sources, drilling may slow down once current lease commitments are met. It is a boom and bust cycle.

Read more on the gas glut here:

http://www.businessinsider.com/natural-gas-better-days-ahead-in-two-years-2010-11

For oil and gas reserve estimates for Michigan see here:

http://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/2005/3070/


11 posted on 11/23/2010 12:01:43 PM PST by epithermal
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To: dirtboy

The people who’s wells have been affected, farmers are the ones I’ve seen talking about it, mainly, are not hard core leftists. They might like subsidies for not planting something, but they also like to drink their water.

What do you say to all the folks that have noticed major changes to their water and the key difference all in common to them is that they have new fracking operations taking place very close to their wells? Some of these folks leased part of their own land to the companies after assurances it would not harm groundwater, yet their water becomes undrinkable. there seems to be causal evidence for fracking releasing trapped gases in the ground getting into groundwater reservoirs.


12 posted on 11/23/2010 12:03:14 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: ICCtheWay

IIRC, modern fracking is far more encompassing than what was being tried in the seventies. Has anyone done real studies of any particular locale doing the modern more effective fracking as it effects long range water usage? There is a town in PA which no longer has viable water wells because of the infusion of gas into the fluids at pressure making the water burnable ... water wells for human consumption are going to be effected, but has anyone doen long range actual studies?


13 posted on 11/23/2010 12:06:41 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: cripplecreek

Please wake up. I didn’t say that. I am saying the problem affects local wells. The stories I have seen and know about are basically farmer folks that have leased out small parts of their land to oil companies who do fracking on that part of the land, and shortly after it begins find their well water is no longer drinkable, has bubbles in it, smells funny.


14 posted on 11/23/2010 12:07:26 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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And those problems are most likely due to improper casing or contamination from surface pits into groundwater. Pennsylvania needs to beef up its regulatory staff and look at other states such as North Dakota for best practices in regulating oil and gas activity.

Like I said, adequate regulation can take care of this problem. But the anti-fracking crowd makes fracking out to be something particularly new and sinister - when it has been around and used for decades.

15 posted on 11/23/2010 12:14:26 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: MHGinTN
IIRC, modern fracking is far more encompassing than what was being tried in the seventies.

Only difference is that wells are being drilled horizonally through the formation. Otherwise, fracking still takes place thousands of feet below groundwater formations, and it would be counterproductive to frack a well so that the cracks extend beyond the pay formation - because a lot of natural gas would get lost.

16 posted on 11/23/2010 12:16:16 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: MHGinTN

Fracking wouldn’t be necessary in Michigan anyway. The night sky around here is already lit up with flares from existing oil wells.


17 posted on 11/23/2010 12:16:48 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Sacajaweau

Texas and Louisiana win.

They are not fighting hydraulic fracturing of their gas shales. The are welcoming the jobs and income with open arms while they result in lower gas cost for their citizens.

By the way, hydraulic fracturing has been used for 60 years in more traditional oil/gas fields before the media latched onto a made up controversy when used in shale fields


18 posted on 11/23/2010 12:17:34 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: MHGinTN

Gas drilling in Texas is regulated ... we have had some problems as one might expect with thousands of well being drilled... Some water contamination has occurred and some substances like benzene being released...

But personally, as a man who lives with a rocks throw of dozens of wells... and within a mile of hundreds of wells... I am not concerned.

Human endeavors have risks and side effects... we learn to deal with them - otherwise the Industrial Revolution would never have taken place and our current standard of living would not exist.


19 posted on 11/23/2010 12:20:22 PM PST by ICCtheWay
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To: dirtboy

Well if there’s a way to do it that doesn’t contaminate groundwater or render someone’s well undrinkable, fine.

So nobody in North Dakota lost their well water because they just know how to do it right there? Who has to put the casings in, the people doing the fracking, or the guy who wants his well water to remain the way it is?


20 posted on 11/23/2010 12:21:19 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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