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Six Republicans Sign Letter Demanding Ethanol Subsidy Extension
Red Meat Conservative ^ | 12/02/10 | Daniel

Posted on 12/02/2010 5:55:44 AM PST by red meat conservative

The ethanol mandates are one of the most regressive socialist interventions into the free market that have been peddled by the progressives. [Here is our editorial on the costs of ethanol]  Unfortunately, many Republicans, red state ones at that, are signing onto the extension of these backdoor taxes on food and fuel.  6 Republicans joined seven Democrats in penning a letter to Harry Reid and Mitch McConnell demanding that the subsidies be renewed before the end of this congress. 

Here is a list of the Republicans who signed the letter together with their socialist compatriots.

Chuck Grassley Kit Bond Sam Brownback John Thune Mike Johanns Mark Kirk

Mark Kirk is no surprise.  He has wasted no time in voting with the democrats on virtually every issue since the minute he took office.  The rest of these guys are from red states.  Did we gain anything from the midterm elections, or did it never take place?  Kit Bond and Sam Brownback are retiring and it remains to be seen if Moran and Blunt will be any better on this issue.  Chuck Grassley?  Well, he is .... Chuck Grassley after all.  Johanns and Thune are really upsetting.  Is this the best we can do from ruby red states?  John Thune should kiss his bid for the presidency goodbye.


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: corn; crapahol; energy; ethanol; farmpimps; rinos; senate; turncoats

1 posted on 12/02/2010 5:55:46 AM PST by red meat conservative
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To: red meat conservative

Gee, I wonder what was promised to them after they retire?


2 posted on 12/02/2010 5:58:11 AM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: red meat conservative

Ethanol subsidies are pork-barrel-ish and counter-productive. Cut them. Cut all of them.


3 posted on 12/02/2010 5:59:46 AM PST by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: red meat conservative

>> Is this the best we can do from ruby red states?

They’re ruby red states that grow lots of corn. If you scratch them, I bet the majority derive personal economic benefit from the ethanol boondoggle.

Self interest above national interest is the name of the game inside the beltway, no matter what they say during their campaign.


4 posted on 12/02/2010 6:01:14 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: red meat conservative

Phase it out instead of cutting it all at once.

Principle or not, no one is going to vote to eliminate their job and their neighbor’s job if the alternative has no personal downside.


5 posted on 12/02/2010 6:04:46 AM PST by sbMKE
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To: red meat conservative
Chuck Grassley Kit Bond Sam Brownback John Thune Mike Johanns Mark Kirk

Republican senators from the Corn Belt. No one should be surprised. And such very specific subsidies as the ethanol subsidies may not be called earmarks, but they are some of the most expensive earmarks in the federal spending.

6 posted on 12/02/2010 6:05:05 AM PST by Will88
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To: red meat conservative

Let’s place all squarely on the RINO crosshairs.

It is not good for America to subsidize this crap.


7 posted on 12/02/2010 6:08:05 AM PST by bestintxas (Somewhere in Kenya, a Village is missing its Idiot.)
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To: red meat conservative
sorry for the dead link here is the letter from the Hill.
8 posted on 12/02/2010 6:10:17 AM PST by red meat conservative
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To: sbMKE

Nah, abolish it. There is no reason for it to exist.


9 posted on 12/02/2010 6:14:19 AM PST by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: red meat conservative

Never takes RINO’s long to poke up their smelly little heads after an election.


10 posted on 12/02/2010 6:16:51 AM PST by Dead Corpse (III, Alarm and Muster)
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To: red meat conservative; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; ...

This is a great test to see if our RINO party is still full of ....


11 posted on 12/02/2010 6:17:53 AM PST by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: red meat conservative

RINO’s Gone Wild

I knew this would happen. I knew the RINO’s would ally themselves with the Democrats and not be kowed by the election results.


12 posted on 12/02/2010 6:19:16 AM PST by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: red meat conservative

Eliminate Ethanol completely as a Federally sanctioned energy source. If the Ethanol program is incrementally wound down, it ‘s open to being resurrected with little effort, and therefore could be quickly placed back in operation should the political climate change once again.

Chopping “cold turkey” everything possible that is of Leftist source is the only way to go. Deal with the consequences by making jobs easier to obtain. Good energy policy, cut taxes, and get the government the “H” out of the way.

Let the Free Market reign.


13 posted on 12/02/2010 6:27:32 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: red meat conservative

I see its the usual suspects again. Yeh lets use our eating corn to make ethanol. Great idea. I need to lose some weight anyway.


14 posted on 12/02/2010 6:28:53 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2
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To: red meat conservative
are these not the subsidies that Gore just admitted were a mistake, and that he only went along with because he was running going to be running for President?
15 posted on 12/02/2010 6:33:01 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: red meat conservative

IMHO, there is no chance that this will be done during the lame duck session. Some of the votes were, no doubt, politicians giving a meaningless gesture. That said, we should end this and other distortions of the free market system. This is just a warm up for the FARM BILL, which has become a massive spending bill.


16 posted on 12/02/2010 6:34:40 AM PST by jdsteel (CONGRESS: I like the way the words "Palin for President" drive socialists absolutely crazy.)
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To: sickoflibs
And to convince the RINOs and "moderates" to vote for ethanol, Obama just gave them another excuse:

Obama administration reimposes offshore oil drilling ban

17 posted on 12/02/2010 6:37:43 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Lt. Col. Ralph Peters: Obama is the dog who caught the fire truck!)
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To: red meat conservative

You mean after mandating the use of ethanol, they are STILL receiving a subsidy? This is rediculous and unconscionable!

I was a proponent of ethanol, then known as gasohol, in its early stages over 30 years ago. I wrote a major college term paper on it. I had no problem with tax breaks as they were meant to spur a fledgling business— give it time to establish itself, overcome some of its drawbacks and make it an economically viable product.

I wish I could find that paper now, but I do remember some of those drawbacks included a net negative in energy output, harm to the engine, not as high an octane and transport by truck only (not pipeline). Hmm, sounds strangely familiar to today, huh? Why are we mandating a non-economically viable fuel, and retaining its subsidy as well? Isn’t a mandate enough of a subsidy? And does this subsidy include providing money or grants in addition to the tax breaks?

And of course, the mandate caused more ethanol producing plants to grow in rural areas which, according to an article in the Minneapolis City Pages alternative paper, is causing water shortages for rural communities because of the amounts needed for production. In the last paragraph or two, one of the state proponents admits that it is a transitional fuel and will never be a major source of auto energy.

So our stupid congress mandated use of a product which uses food to run our cars (which increases prices of all sorts of food products, meats and more), runs aquifers short on water, uses more energy to produce than it creates, doesn’t work as efficiently as a fuel and will never replace more than 2-3% of our gasoline. What’s not to like?


18 posted on 12/02/2010 6:39:50 AM PST by gnickgnack2 (QUESTION obama's AUTHORITY)
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To: red meat conservative

John Thune is a nice guy, but unfortunately he is a shill for the ethanol industry.


19 posted on 12/02/2010 6:47:50 AM PST by The Great RJ (The Bill of Rights: Another bill members of Congress haven't read.)
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To: sickoflibs
This is a great test to see if our RINO party is still full of ....

Shills?

Sigh.

Hey, sickoflibs. It's *your* RINO party, not mine. I think I've finally, irrevocably, gone over to Libertarian land...Well, except for the insistence on legalization of all drugs....and the whole "really, really, really open borders" thing...Right, then, I'll just remain in "Independent" la-la land...

20 posted on 12/02/2010 7:00:32 AM PST by MaggieCarta (What are we here for but to provide sport for our neighbors, and to laugh at them in our turn?Austen)
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To: red meat conservative

Saw a commercial on FOX last night on a new kitty litter made out of corn. Looks like this commodity is being used more and more for anything but food. It is my understanding that new govt regs require as much as 30% ethanol in gasoline. This is a double edged sword because not only it is being used as a non-food product but also because this fuel mix has the potential to destroy auto engines manufactured prior to 2007.


21 posted on 12/02/2010 7:04:07 AM PST by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: red meat conservative

A more correct headline would have read” Six Democrats at heart...


22 posted on 12/02/2010 7:06:30 AM PST by sport
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To: red meat conservative

We pay 8 billion in subsidies to burn up 40% of our corn crop to water down our gasoline.

Nice work if you can get it.

Now why does Iowa vote early in Presidential primaries again? Because they like some PORK with their corn.


23 posted on 12/02/2010 7:11:43 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: red meat conservative

I don’t think Thune has any chance at the presidency but it’s naive to relate his backing of the ethanol scam to his chances. He’s backing the scam as the usual concession to Iowa that just about every candidate for prez makes. After you win the caucus there, then you can rant in opposition to “corporate welfare,” just like John Kerry did it in 2004.


24 posted on 12/02/2010 7:12:08 AM PST by PaleoBob
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To: red meat conservative

There is nothing good about ethanol... or these six traitors.

LLS


25 posted on 12/02/2010 7:20:50 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: Tennessean4Bush
Ethanol subsidies are pork-barrel-ish and counter-productive.

Not only ethanol. ALL corn subsidies are a crime against capitalism - why should the taxpayer pay for dumping corn sirup that noone wants on the market? So I concur: Cut them. Cut all of them.

26 posted on 12/02/2010 12:14:30 PM PST by wolf78 (Inflation is a form of taxation, too. Cranky Libertarian - equal opportunity offender.)
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To: rockinqsranch

Rather than ethanol subsidies, how would you feel about the US Government simply buying up excess corn and using it rather than providing money in foreign aid ? Not that I’m wild about foreign aid, but I’d rather see us giving them food than money that goes into dictators’ pockets and never reaches the starving. At least we’d only be spending money domestically and sending US product rather than money overseas.


27 posted on 12/04/2010 3:11:55 AM PST by Kellis91789 (There's a reason the mascot of the Democratic Party is a jackass.)
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To: pissant; CedarDave; 2ndDivisionVet; steelyourfaith; Sub-Driver; xcamel; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; ...

ping


28 posted on 12/04/2010 6:14:45 AM PST by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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To: Delacon; Whenifhow; TenthAmendmentChampion; Clive; scripter; Darnright; WL-law; bamahead; ...
Thanx Delacon !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

29 posted on 12/04/2010 6:33:13 AM PST by steelyourfaith (ObamaCare Death Panels: a Final Solution to the looming Social Security crisis ?)
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To: Kellis91789

“Rather than ethanol subsidies, how would you feel about the US Government simply buying up excess corn and ...”

Absolutely NOT. That would still place our government in a position of power over the free market. The goal is to get the government the “H” out of the free market.

Foreign food aid is another matter entirely. I’m in favor of private enterprise, and Church involvement with assistance from the diplomatic corp.


30 posted on 12/04/2010 8:27:08 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: red meat conservative
Chuck Grassley Kit Bond Sam Brownback John Thune Mike Johanns Mark Kirk

I see Mr. Ed from Iowa signed it. No surprise there.

31 posted on 12/04/2010 11:17:46 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Muslims are not the problem, the rest of the world is! /s)
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