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USDA removes major barrier to Michelle Obama’s salad-bar initiative
Grist ^ | December 6, 2010 | Ed Bruske

Posted on 12/06/2010 11:05:58 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

First Lady Michelle Obama announced last week that a new public-private partnership, Let's Move Salad Bars to Schools, would make it possible for as many as 6,000 salad bars to be installed in U.S. school cafeterias at an estimated cost of $15 million. Contrary to what hundreds of irate commenters directed to Grist from a link by the Drudge Report feared, the salad bars will not be mandatory lunchtime eating for the nation's youngsters, not taxpayer-funded. If parents like Sarah Palin want their kids to eat cookies for lunch, no one is going to stop them.

Of bigger concern has been the USDA's mixed messages about whether self-serve salad bars would be permitted in elementary schools. Backers of the Let's Move Salad Bars to Schools project said local health inspectors already were citing an Oct. 8 memo from the USDA's Child Nutrition Division as a reason for declaring self-serve salad bars a potential food safety hazard and not allowing small children around them.

The memo, signed by Cindy Long, director of the Child Nutrition Division, and circulated nationwide, described only two options for salad bars in elementary schools: salads must be pre-assembled and pre-wrapped, or they must be served by an adult working behind a barrier separating children from the food.

But after I questioned her on these points, Jean Daniel, spokesperson for the USDA's Food and Nutrition Services (FNS) division (which governs the National School Lunch Program), said there was a third option not listed in the memo: Elementary-school children could serve themselves salad, as long as the salad bar was designed specifically for small children with a plastic barrier (aka "sneeze guard") positioned at an appropriate height.

The FNS later issued a written statement, saying:

USDA does not prohibit self-service salad bars, and they may be used in elementary schools. USDA encourages the use of fresh fruits and vegetables in school meals. Self-service salad bars are one approach that can be successfully included in the meal service when monitored closely to ensure safety. [Emphasis mine.] Now that that's out of the way, let's look at how the salad bars might work.

Raising the bars' cash

The alliance of produce industry, school food professionals, health advocacy groups, and government agencies has come together under the First Lady's Let's Move banner to fund the effort through a combination of corporate and private donations, including creating a website where schools can direct donors from their own communities to make contributions as large or as small as the like to the individual school.

"It's still a work in progress," said Ann Cooper, director of nutrition services for Boulder, Colo., schools and one of the group's organizing partners. Cooper was recently involved in a similar campaign in which Whole Foods raised $1.4 million in donations from its customers in order to donate salad bars to schools, and her Food, Family, Farming Foundation, based in Boulder, will be in charge of managing the application process for the Let's Move campaign.

The project is scheduled to begin accepting applications from individual schools on Jan. 1, 2011. "We're expecting thousands and thousands of applications," said Cooper, who estimated there are at least 80,000 schools in the U.S. without salad bars.

Cooper sees "micro-philanthropy" aided by social networking tools on the internet as the cutting edge for funding food improvements in local school districts.

The salad bars in question, made of polyvinyl and chilled with ice packs, cost $2,500 each. "If a school found 500 people to each donate $5, they could have a salad bar," Cooper said. Any school that participates in the National School Lunch Program is eligible to apply. They must show that the local schools superintendent, the school principal, and the food services director are committed to using a salad bar on a daily basis. Preference will be given to schools with large numbers of low-income students, and those that have achieved at least the bronze level in the HealthierUS Schools Challenge.

Schools will have help raising the necessary dough -- and some more than others. "The coalition is absolutely raising money to donate salad bars, and we fully expect to raise a significant amount of funds," said Cooper. "We assume that all schools will have some amount of money donated directly from the coalition, and some schools will have their salad bars fully funded."

While the White House was directly involved in organizing the alliance, it is not involved in daily operations, although Michelle Obama is expected to play a major role in promoting the campaign and encouraging schools to apply, Cooper said.

Getting Fresh

Another principal partner in the Let's Move alliance is United Fresh, a produce industry trade group, that began its own salad bar campaign two years ago backing legislation sponsored by Rep. Sam Farr (D-Calif.) that called on the USDA to increase fruits and vegetables in school meals. Farr represents the produce-growing powerhouse Salinas Valley.

Ray Gilmer, spokesman for United Fresh, said the legislation "never got much traction," but generated some buzz around salad bars. A year ago, United Fresh began soliciting donations from its corporate members to purchase salad bars and place them in schools. "A lot of companies want to place them in the communities where they operate, a sort of ‘good neighbor' thing," Gilmer said.

Gilmer said the United Fresh campaign was low-key, conducted mostly by word of mouth and the internet. To date they've given away 60 salad bars and plan to donate an undetermined amount of cash to the Let's Move campaign. "We're going to New Orleans for a convention, and we've already placed 10 salad bars in schools there," Gilmer noted.

A third partner in the White House effort is the National Fruit and Vegetable Alliance, comprising the USDA, the Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), and such disparate groups as the American Cancer Society and the California Department of Public Health.

The CDC has emerged as a leader of the group, taking up fruits and vegetables as a key ingredient to preventing diet-related diseases such as obesity and Type 2 diabetes.

The salad bar effort still faces some obstacles. Some schools don't want salad bars. Montgomery County, just outside the nation's capitol, does not permit salad bars for food-safety reasons. Philadelphia schools similarly do not offer salad bars, but serve salad in the regular food line instead.

"Self-serve brings a number of management issues that we'd have to look at," said Philadelphia schools spokesman Fernando Gallard. "Basically, you'd have a salad bar in an open area where people are going to walk around it. That's something we still have to consider -- the sanitation issues."

Cooper has complained about USDA regulations that require students who use the salad bar to pass a cashier, or point-of-sale station, where a trained cafeteria worker would inspect the student's tray and confirm that the student had taken the required items in the correct portion sizes in order for the school to qualify for reimbursement. Such rules create logjams in the cafeteria, Cooper said.

Here in the District of Columbia, many food-service areas are not designed to accommodate a salad bar. Installing one would require rethinking how students pass through the meal line and where the cashier is situated.

Kate Adamick, a school food consultant and fervent salad bar advocate, said those obstacles can be overcome without too much difficulty. "I don't think there's any other way to serve produce in school," she said. Most cafeteria vegetables are cooked to death, or come out of a can, and kids either refuse them in the service line or throw them in the trash. Adamick believes children eat more vegetables when they're allowed to serve themselves from an array of fresh choices.

"When kids get to make their own decisions, they're much more likely to try things," she said.

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A reporter for the Washington Post in a previous life, I now tend my “urban farm” about a mile from the White House in the District of Columbia and teach kids something I call “food appreciation.” I believe in self-reliance, growing food close to home and political freedom for the residents of the District of Columbia. I am currently working to introduce local produce into the D.C. school system. I write a daily food blog called The Slow Cook.


TOPICS: Education; Food; Health/Medicine; Politics
KEYWORDS: coldandflutrough; congress; contagions; food; fruitsandnuts; michelleobama; nannystate; obama; saladbar; unitedfresh; wholefoods
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"Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive." ~C. S. Lewis
1 posted on 12/06/2010 11:06:03 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“If parents like Sarah Palin want their kids to eat cookies for lunch, no one is going to stop them.”

Well isn’t that snarky? If you don’t want your kids to eat at the salad bar, you must want them to have cookies for lunch. Like that out of shape pig Sarah Palin and her obese family????


2 posted on 12/06/2010 11:10:55 PM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Eyes Unclouded

I love the underside of the blue dress lady’s shoes. Such attention to detail.


4 posted on 12/06/2010 11:21:20 PM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If parents like Sarah Palin want their kids to eat cookies for lunch, no one is going to stop them.

The author of the article, Ed Bruske, is obviously a self-loathing asshole.

5 posted on 12/06/2010 11:22:54 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Persevero

They should be cutting out sugar and bad carbs.


6 posted on 12/06/2010 11:23:29 PM PST by Aria ( "Remember, attitudes are contagious, so make sure yours are worth catching." Sarah Palin 9-18-2010)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Ummm, when did Manchelle become a Food Czar and Evita?
7 posted on 12/06/2010 11:24:07 PM PST by Conservative Tsunami
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Elementary-school children could serve themselves salad, as long as the salad bar was designed specifically for small children with a plastic barrier (aka "sneeze guard") positioned at an appropriate height.

Hahahaha! Like that's going to stop little Johnny from blowing buggers and spitting in it.

8 posted on 12/06/2010 11:24:31 PM PST by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Moochelle has to be one of the biggest morons on the planet.


10 posted on 12/06/2010 11:26:12 PM PST by mylife (Opinions ~ $1 Half Baked ~ 50c)
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To: Persevero

Carla Bruni-Sarkozy, wife of the President of the French Republic. Never noticed the shoes in that picture.


11 posted on 12/06/2010 11:28:25 PM PST by Eyes Unclouded ("The word bipartisan means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out." -George Carlin)
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To: Persevero

She went to Princeton for that wit?


12 posted on 12/06/2010 11:29:04 PM PST by mylife (Opinions ~ $1 Half Baked ~ 50c)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Having a salad won’t do anything if you smother it with dressing like 1000 Island or Ranch or French...

Obestity has nothing to do with schools.

Schools served the same things back in the 70s and 80s they do today and there was far less obesity back then.

They’d be better off increasing phys ed classes. Kids exercised more back then. Now they’re all online or texting or facebooking or playing video games.

Ironically enough, the WH use dto run this thing called the President’s Challenge for Physical Fitness. It was a contest among all 50 states where people signed up and used these stepcounters to measure how physically active they were for say 6 weeks or so over the summer. AK won back to back in 2008-9. The first two yrs of the program that started in 2008. For some reason, the WH ended the program after 2009. I wonder why?

http://www.fitness.gov/presidents-challenge/pcfsn-awards/presidents-challenge-winners-2009.html

So under Gov Palin’s leadership AK was the most active state in both 2008-2009 She should really tout that.

It’s not about salad bars. I saw last night where she was out there hiking 12 miles with her dad and his friend. That’s what’s needed. You don’t get obese if you do stuff like that.


13 posted on 12/06/2010 11:31:22 PM PST by jeltz25
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To: bgill

Are the kids going to be helping themselves, or will the lunchroom ladies be doing the serving?? ‘Cause I am so sure the kids will NOT use the spoons/tongs/forks/whatever ALL the time, there WILL be grubbing in the lettuce and various whatnots going on!!!


14 posted on 12/06/2010 11:31:52 PM PST by pillut48 (Israel doesn't have a friend in President Obama...and neither does the USA! (h/t pgkdan))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Wendy's got rid of their salad bars decades ago for two very good reasons:

1)They lost a fortune on them

2)They were impossible to keep clean and presentable looking.

16 posted on 12/06/2010 11:38:36 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: jeltz25
Schools served the same things back in the 70s and 80s they do today and there was far less obesity back then.

I go back as far as the 40s and 50s in school and they served the same things then also. Hardly any fat kids because we all had to work and we all participated in recess and PE. Our families managed to feed us and keep us from being malnutritioned.

18 posted on 12/06/2010 11:42:50 PM PST by calex59
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"Obama says now you little rats can help yourselves. That's more smoke breaks for me..."


19 posted on 12/06/2010 11:43:38 PM PST by mylife (Opinions ~ $1 Half Baked ~ 50c)
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To: Momto2

I hate to drag the kids into this.
I cant abide their parents.


20 posted on 12/06/2010 11:45:03 PM PST by mylife (Opinions ~ $1 Half Baked ~ 50c)
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To: Eyes Unclouded

“Carla Bruni-Sarkozy, wife of the President of the French Republic. Never noticed the shoes in that picture.”

Ah, but you are probably male. I am of the female persuasion. So we notice different things. . .


21 posted on 12/06/2010 11:53:16 PM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When I was a kid we packed a lunch.
We were “allowed” to buy lunch on Pizza day and Spaghetti day.

Our school had Italian lunch ladies


22 posted on 12/06/2010 11:57:51 PM PST by mylife (Opinions ~ $1 Half Baked ~ 50c)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Exactly how long do the little Boogers get for Lunch anyway? We used to get 30 minutes. Two single file lines past the Salad Bar. Lunch had better start serving about 10 AM and end about 2 PM.

A bunch of little kids using the same pair of Tongs to scoop up lettuce, with all the condiments in separate little containers (with their own set of Tongs) that they have to scoop out before they get to the Golden Ring, the Dressing!

What do you get after they hit the dressing, Lettuce Soup.

23 posted on 12/06/2010 11:59:58 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Obama, Pelosi and Reid, the Axis of Fascism.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What makes Crazy Aunt Esther any sort of an expert on nutrition? Did the concept even exist on the south side of Chicago?


24 posted on 12/07/2010 12:01:27 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Cooper has complained about USDA regulations that require students who use the salad bar to pass a cashier, or point-of-sale station, where a trained cafeteria worker would inspect the student's tray and confirm that the student had taken the required items in the correct portion sizes in order for the school to qualify for reimbursement. Such rules create logjams in the cafeteria, Cooper said.

LOL! Does this sound like a government program or what?

"YOU! BACK OVER TO THAT SALAD BAR AND DON'T COME BACK WITHOUT ANOTHER 3.5 OLIVES ON THAT PLATE, MISTER!!!!"

25 posted on 12/07/2010 12:02:19 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (What's black and white and red all over? HINT: Think White House)
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To: Kickass Conservative
What do you get after they hit the dressing, Lettuce Soup.

As well as ringworm and impetigo...

26 posted on 12/07/2010 12:04:40 AM PST by mylife (Opinions ~ $1 Half Baked ~ 50c)
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To: sheik yerbouty
"I will knock the fat right out of you suckah!"


27 posted on 12/07/2010 12:08:44 AM PST by mylife (Opinions ~ $1 Half Baked ~ 50c)
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To: mylife

ROFL! She sho’ is fugly!


28 posted on 12/07/2010 12:10:42 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: sheik yerbouty

In real life Lawanda Page wasnt to bad.
She really played the part well.


29 posted on 12/07/2010 12:13:16 AM PST by mylife (Opinions ~ $1 Half Baked ~ 50c)
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I went to a highschool that had access to a salad bar. The only day it was popular was the afternoon 3 fetal pigs (from the biology lab) showed up in the giant lettuce bowl. Biggest crowd the salad bar ever saw. Seriously, salad bars for kids is a silly idea.


30 posted on 12/07/2010 12:13:35 AM PST by Casie
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To: mylife
>”Our school had Italian lunch ladies”<

My Mother was an Italian Breakfast Lunch and Dinner Lady.

At School, all we had were Pissed Off Lunch Ladies.

31 posted on 12/07/2010 12:17:49 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (Obama, Pelosi and Reid, the Axis of Fascism.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

We still have them in the family LoL


32 posted on 12/07/2010 12:19:06 AM PST by mylife (Opinions ~ $1 Half Baked ~ 50c)
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To: Kickass Conservative

I love the Italian kitchen.
My Cuz’s wife just had a blackboard on the wall with the word “NO!” on it, that she pointed to when the kids got wound up.

It was hilarious! Making pasta, making soup drinking wine, laughing and pointing at the blackboard.

A real event.


33 posted on 12/07/2010 12:23:44 AM PST by mylife (Opinions ~ $1 Half Baked ~ 50c)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A salad bars for kids is complete stupidity.

They are like a giant petri dishes of food born and cross contaminating critters.

I would never allow my kid near a salad bar.

Before people holler that millions eat from salad bars and never get sick, it is because they are meant for adults and adults can handle the pathogens better than kids.

Adults are also more sanitary.

Can you imagine a bunch of untrained dirty kids who don’t wash their hands after the toilet or filthy from the playground or other sick kids slobbering and grabbing at food a salad bar?

Better to be a fat kid than a dead kid.


34 posted on 12/07/2010 12:32:28 AM PST by radpolis (Liberals: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy)
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To: sheik yerbouty
And has anyone here bothered to check the actual nutritional value of a salad?

Lettuce has no nutritional value and most salad dressings are oil, mayo and some spices.

Salads are not a member of the basic food groups so Michelle obviously skipped food science at Princeton.

This recipe for this initiative two parts ignorance and three parts arrogance

35 posted on 12/07/2010 12:33:35 AM PST by rdcbn
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To: Kickass Conservative

Yeah but if I was in an Italian Kitchen at 2 am
There were always pots still simmering.

I’ll always remember that from when I was a kid.
You could roll in at 2 am and there was chow.

You might catch hell in the morning but there was always chow on the stove

My friends parents God Bless Them, they are dead now.
The old man was Italian, we called him “The Whopper”
Their Mom was Lebanese. Her name was “Desert”.

The things that Woman would make.
Her kitchen was open 24/7


36 posted on 12/07/2010 12:36:53 AM PST by mylife (Opinions ~ $1 Half Baked ~ 50c)
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To: mylife
My Mother was a great cook, but we used to go to visit my Dad's Cousin almost every Sunday afternoon.

He was a retired Butcher, and we would basically sit down and visit for hours while eating more food than you could imagine. It was like the Caesars Palace Buffet, but you never had to leave your seat to get another helping.

My Dad's Cousin would sit there pontificating while smoking a big stogie and drinking Italian Red while his wonderful Wife would spend all her time in and out of the Kitchen. T Bone Steaks piled a foot high, Pasta, Meatballs, Sausage, Lasagna, Vegetables, homemade Cannolis, whatever your heart desired. You would have thought they had a staff back there.

My Mother always tried to help and was chased out of the Kitchen. It was as Italian as Italian could be.

And now we have some idiot Libtards that I wouldn't trust to babysit my Dog making kids eat lettuce at school because the Nation has decided that raising children is somebody elses problem. Dear God.

37 posted on 12/07/2010 12:41:02 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (Obama, Pelosi and Reid, the Axis of Fascism.)
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To: rdcbn
haha...true, but personally speaking I'm not against public schools serving healthier/nutritious food. If the kids bring junk food that's the parent's responsibility, but government-funded schools shouldn't be sugar pimps.
38 posted on 12/07/2010 12:43:15 AM PST by Rick_Michael (Have no fear "President Government" is here)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Dat’s what I am talking about!

We would arrive on Saturday as it is a two day event culminating in Sunday dinner LoL


39 posted on 12/07/2010 12:43:29 AM PST by mylife (Opinions ~ $1 Half Baked ~ 50c)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Michelle Obama, FEH!

I bet she never cooked a pot of beans in her life.


40 posted on 12/07/2010 12:46:19 AM PST by mylife (Opinions ~ $1 Half Baked ~ 50c)
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To: mylife
Now I'm getting hungry and I have to hit the sack.

This is like watching reruns of Man v Food and Diners, Drive Ins and Dives at midnight.

Big mistake. LOL

Have a good night my FRiend. Makes you wonder how we survived our youth being abused by having to eat all that food. In fact, I don't think Salad Bars even existed back in the 60’s. I'm surprised we are still breathing.

41 posted on 12/07/2010 12:52:10 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (Obama, Pelosi and Reid, the Axis of Fascism.)
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To: Rick_Michael

I use a 5 lb bag of sugar a year. I just don’t like sugar that much.
I see plenty of people that slog down 32 oz Dr Peppers with breakfast.
That’s their decision.

But that’s my decision.The Gov should hold no sway over family’s decisions or individual adult decisions.

You’ll not they always start with the childruns before they regulate the adults.


42 posted on 12/07/2010 12:53:09 AM PST by mylife (Opinions ~ $1 Half Baked ~ 50c)
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To: Kickass Conservative

No. Its worse! There is nothing like the Italian Kitchen.

I know old geezers in their 80s that still hold the home made pizza night, with all the wine and fun.

Everybody will be there and having fun.
What else is there to do?

Write a bunch of dumbass laws?


43 posted on 12/07/2010 12:57:52 AM PST by mylife (Opinions ~ $1 Half Baked ~ 50c)
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To: Rick_Michael

“You’ll note”


44 posted on 12/07/2010 12:59:53 AM PST by mylife (Opinions ~ $1 Half Baked ~ 50c)
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To: Persevero

Compare those to Sasquatch’s shoes....what the hell are those silver things she’s wearing?


45 posted on 12/07/2010 1:16:24 AM PST by StayoutdaBushesWay (Why Johnny Ringo, you look like someone just walked over your grave!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Salad bar + kids = food fight. Can you imagine?


46 posted on 12/07/2010 1:34:44 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: Aria

I agree with the carbs, simple sugars ok. All the HFCS and soy needs to go as well. It is clear, by watching salad eaters that it is not a weight loss answer.


47 posted on 12/07/2010 4:04:41 AM PST by momincombatboots (In a few months I will be Ore..Gone! Look out Crater Lake, here we come!)
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To: bgill

Food fight, anyone? This shows MO doesn’t really understand how kids are “in the wild.” Besides, there are many other health reasons why that is not a good idea.

Also, where are the schools going to get the money for this? All the schools around here are hurting for funds thanks to all the government cutbacks.


48 posted on 12/07/2010 4:26:43 AM PST by Bookwoman ("...and I am unanimous in this...")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Most salad bars I’ve seen have very fattening items, otherwise nobody would get them.


49 posted on 12/07/2010 4:45:05 AM PST by Moonman62 (Half of all Americans are above average.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Come on, Barack, We're goin' to the Salad Bar."

"Yaz'm..."

50 posted on 12/07/2010 6:11:11 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (If your salad bowls all say Kool Whip on the side, you might be a redneck.)
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