Skip to comments.Somebody Please Blow the Whistle in Hawaii!!
Posted on 12/07/2010 2:12:55 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike
[ED Note: As I have stated the HDOH Staff member expressly stated their seal is an embossment.
"Embossing (paper), the raising of paper and other non-metal products."
Obama's seal is not raised, it is impressed into the back of the COLB. It seems a little thing, but it is a legal thing.]
[Ed Note: I want to be sure everyone understands what has happened:
Dr. Fukino has resigned or been fired. I received an autoreply telling me SEVEN minutes after I sent her a UIPA request this evening. An autoreply doesn't take seven minutes and I believe she quit on the spot. An email I sent her earlier went through with no problem.
The UIPA request that, in my opinon, prompted her to leave was/is the proof that Obama certified his own COLB with a phony seal that is SO different from the official HDOH seal, it is probably not criminal that he had the seal produced and spread it around online.
(Excerpt) Read more at obamasgarden.wordpress.com ...
Well, you earned your paycheck this week. :)
You’re giving a better description of how the HI DOH has responded to simple requests. I understand your desperation. I guess you’re waiting on new talking points before you can actually try to rebut what the OP is describing.
I am desperate.
I guess it will all come crashing down now for Obama, eh?
I bought a birther "countdown clock" to keep track of the few remaining days of the Obama Presidency.(I have to keep resetting it.) I bought it from a lefty who used it as a Karl Rove frogmarch "countdown clock" and then as a Bush/Cheney war criminals "countdown clock". He bought it from someone who used it during Clinton's first term as an Al Gore Presidency "countdown clock". He got it from a guy who used it as an October Surprise "countdown clock" for both Reagan and Bush 41...
Well, the little Obot trolls sure infested this thread.
The Gang of Obama Faithers or ‘GOOFs’ for short. They were dispatched en masse for this one.
Nope. All meat. Sorry!
And now we know how she REALLY feels.
I am starting to think that MT is the plant.
This is an update from MT’s website - - -
[*UPDATE 2: I see the familiar Obot Obfuscators are out in full force, pretending to play ‘devil’s advocates,’ pushing their phony seals, and claiming more credibility as anonymous yahoos commenting online than records granted under Open Records Law and disclosed directly from the Hawaii Department of Health—records which are consistent with the description of the seal in the Title 11-1 Administrative rules.
As if we don’t have better judgment. Arm yourselves with info and stand strong to shout them down.
And don’t be fooled when one Obot vouches for the credibility of another to convince you. Fact: They are all still anonymous yahoos. There is a coordinated effort online to drive this story away from this post. Far away. And fast.
Added 12/5: **MAKE NO MISTAKE, these Obot plants will really, really insist they and other Obot plants are credible, sweet, “patriotic” citizens.**
Ask yourselves, would you go so far as to VOUCH for the credibility of anyone you met or encountered online including commenters you really like? I have to question the judgment of people who would. How do they know?
Personally, I wouldn’t VOUCH for the credibility of people I have met online and even provided my real name.
She also says - - -
The HDOH released an image of their embossed seal and it is clearly inconsistent with every online image of an alleged HDOH embossed seal having any clarity that I have seen. ....... One thing I will say is that I do not have confidence in any online image of a Certificate or Certification of Live Birth allegedly issued from Hawaii bearing a seal that is entirely inconsistent with what the department provided me.
MT alleges that she is right and everyone else is an obot. This based on a document she received from the HDOH. The same agency she has accused of lying to her for two years.
Danae, I believe that you are the truthful one and that your documents are authentic. My family COLBs back you up.
She’s either a plant or she’s lost her little marbles. Maybe both?
Now we know why Donofrio cut her loose. He figured out her elevator didn’t go all the way to the top.
She is exceptionally tenacious and very intelligent. However she isn’t always tenacious about the right things.
That right there can be a problem when a person like that refuses to see that they went in the wrong direction.
They take it personal, as if that one mistake ruins the body of their work. Its ridiculous, but there it is.
Shes either a plant or shes lost her little marbles. Maybe both?
Now we know why Donofrio cut her loose. He figured out her elevator didnt go all the way to the top.
I don’t know what an electronic copy of the HDOHs embossed seal is but it looks like a rubber stamp impression to me. I have Hawaii COLBs for family members and the seal doesn’t look anything like that.
There are no lines at all because the entire image is comprised of tiny indented horizontal bars or dashes. Like in this photo.
If MT had an official COLB for comparison she’d know that.
According to here
The new “Acting Director” is Keith R. Ridley.
There are no news releases concerning the resignation of Fukino.
Without more information, the resignation could be for any reason IMHO.
She posted the rules that described the embossed seal. Those COLBs that have been posted don’t match what the offiicial rules say the seal is supposed to look like.
I have certified family COLBs from Hawaii that I acquired in 2008. They all contain the DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH - STATE OF HAWAII EMBOSSED seal. There is an old Chinese saying, a picture is worth a thousand words.
a) The official seal of the department of health shall be circular in shape, two and one-fourth inches in diameter. At the curve on the top portion there shall be the words "DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH" and at the curve on the bottom portion there shall be the words "STATE OF HAWAII." At the curve on each side portion shall be a star. In the center of the seal shall be the Caduceus, a winged rod entwined with two serpents, which has long been recognized as a universal symbol of medicine. The Caduceus shall be encircled by an indentation, which shall separate it from the words "DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH" and "STATE OF HAWAII." For illustrative purposes, a black and white drawing of the official seal is attached at the end of this section as Exhibit "A," titled "Seal of the Department of Health," and dated November 1, 1988, and made a part of this section.
More developing at MissTickley's blog !
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