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An atheist Christmas coloring book
News OK (blog) ^ | December 9, 2010 | Carla Hinton

Posted on 12/09/2010 7:31:45 PM PST by Baladas

Atheist Christmas.

Sounds like a misnomer, perhaps.

Well, not if you follow the thinking of the “Atheist Christmas Coloring Book” which has been creaed for families “who want to enjoy a Christmas holiday free from religion.”

So says a news release from Mindposts.com, described as a place for rational parents, students and teachers to learn and share.

“There is no shame in celebrating Christmas as a time of love and joy,” the news release states.

(Excerpt) Read more at blog.newsok.com ...


TOPICS: Books/Literature; Miscellaneous; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: atheists; christmas; culturewars; libtards
Yo,"Marazzani", not your holiday - CHRISTmas, you pseudo-intellectual twit. Now get ready to burn in Hell throughout eternity.
1 posted on 12/09/2010 7:31:51 PM PST by Baladas
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To: Baladas

I’m an atheist, and I’ve always enjoyed the Christmas season. I certainly didn’t need a coloring book to help me do so!


2 posted on 12/09/2010 7:36:19 PM PST by Abin Sur
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To: Baladas

The Godless Left want a 4th of July without the patriotism too.


3 posted on 12/09/2010 7:36:50 PM PST by Happy Rain
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To: Baladas
Christmas is part of our Greco-Roman-Judeo-Christian Western tradition. It has always been a special time of year across diverse cultures. It need not be dedicated to mysticism and supernatural nonsense. Atheists can embrace Christmas as a mid-winter celebration with friends and family. It is a wonderful time to share family traditions and discuss the rational roots that keep your family strong.

That's OK, but celebrate Solstice, Yule, The Great Nothingness, whatever, just don't say you're celebrating Christmas--us Christians will take care of that. And when Cinco de Mayo comes around, feel free to celebrate May Day, Jose Cuervo, Drunken Gringo Day, etc. but don't insult the Mexicans by acting like you belong.

4 posted on 12/09/2010 7:41:36 PM PST by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: randog
That's OK, but celebrate Solstice, Yule, The Great Nothingness, whatever, just don't say you're celebrating Christmas--us Christians will take care of that.

I think it's fair to say that by the early 21st Century a large part of the Christmas celebration has become secular. To be sure many people (to varying degrees) celebrate it as a religious occasion, but in popular culture I believe that Christmas' non-religious aspects have partially overtaken the religious aspects.

That being the case, I will continue to celebrate Christmas in spite of being an unbeliever. Just don't expect to see me in church... :-)

5 posted on 12/09/2010 7:57:24 PM PST by Abin Sur
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To: Baladas

Blank pages - you fill in your own?


6 posted on 12/09/2010 7:58:31 PM PST by azhenfud (The government is not best which secures life and property-there is a more valuable thing-manhood.)
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To: Baladas

I heard a story once about a priest telling an atheist, “If you’re right, it’s no big deal. Lights out! But if I’m right, you’re toast.”


7 posted on 12/09/2010 7:58:51 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Merry Christmas to all of my FReeper FRiends!)
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To: Baladas

Few things point more towards the man-made origin of religion than the twisted sisters who first came up with the idea of “Hell.” Even the pagan Romans and Greeks believed Hades was just a depressing underworld of shadows.
The genuinely frightening `Old’ Testament God makes no mention of it; we don’t get much detail until the Prince of Peace comes along in the ‘new’ testament. (Work with me Israelites)
There’s a lot of throat-clearing when you bring up Heaven: `What’s it like?’ “Well, um, it’s very nice. It’s comfortable. Think Hooters, but the waitresses are fully clothed. Eat all you want, solid gold bar & pearl urinals, um, lions laying down with lamb, probably all the ice cream you can eat ... “ etc. etc.
But bring up hell and you get specific details, a comprehensive, descriptive & hair-raising tour of all seven levels with the gnashing of teeth, wailing, 3rd degree burns, hopping devils forking souls into the lake of fire, and on-and-on.
I think it was Tertullian who first described one of the comforts of Heaven as constant relish in the torture of others.
Well anyway, merry Christmas.


8 posted on 12/09/2010 8:08:41 PM PST by tumblindice ("Someone should change the law!" US lawmaker/lawbreaker & Mexican Bund leader `Luis Luis' Gutierrez)
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To: Abin Sur
I wish the liberal atheists were like you—not a believer but not one to want to spoil it for those who do believe.

Liberals are hatetheists—they not only don't believe but want to exterminate the public expressions of those who do.

9 posted on 12/09/2010 8:10:23 PM PST by Happy Rain
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To: FlingWingFlyer
I heard a story once about a priest telling an atheist, “If you’re right, it’s no big deal. Lights out! But if I’m right, you’re toast.”

Pascal's Wager. Of course, if the Muslims are right then Christians are toast. If the Vikings were right you better die with a sword in your hand, otherwise you won't go to Valhalla.

Etc...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_Wager#Criticisms

10 posted on 12/09/2010 8:16:30 PM PST by Abin Sur
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To: Baladas

‘This is He,’ I will say, ‘the son of the carpenter and the harlot, the sabbath-breaker, the Samaritan who had a devil. This is He whom you purchased from Judas, this is He who was struck with reed and fist, defiled with spittle, given gall and vinegar to drink. This is He whom the disciples secretly stole away to spread the story of His resurrection, or whom the gardener removed lest his lettuces be trampled by the throng of curious idlers.’

- Tertullian


11 posted on 12/09/2010 8:17:25 PM PST by februus
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To: Abin Sur

I’m with you. As an atheist who enjoys Christmas, I want everyone to have a good time, regardless of religious persuasion.


12 posted on 12/09/2010 8:18:01 PM PST by stormer
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To: Baladas

An “Athiest Christmas” is an oxymoron, or more like just “moronic”.


13 posted on 12/09/2010 8:18:45 PM PST by JSDude1
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To: tumblindice
There’s a lot of throat-clearing when you bring up Heaven: `What’s it like?’ “Well, um, it’s very nice. It’s comfortable. Think Hooters, but the waitresses are fully clothed. Eat all you want, solid gold bar & pearl urinals, um, lions laying down with lamb, probably all the ice cream you can eat ... “ etc. etc.

Hm...I don't recall any mention of urinals in Dante's Divine Comedy. Interestingly, your description of heaven is somewhat closer to that of Robert Heinlein's book, "Job: A Comedy of Justice"

Highly recommended, but I'll say that about almost anything by Heinlein.

14 posted on 12/09/2010 8:19:50 PM PST by Abin Sur
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To: Baladas
An atheist Christmas coloring book

haha

15 posted on 12/09/2010 8:22:16 PM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: Baladas

These people are totally obsessed with Christianity.


16 posted on 12/09/2010 8:27:16 PM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: stormer
The Japanese go ape-poop over Christmas—Tokyo dresses up like Manhattan during the season and in both cities Christians are a small minority.
17 posted on 12/09/2010 8:30:53 PM PST by Happy Rain
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To: azhenfud
An atheist color book
18 posted on 12/09/2010 8:34:37 PM PST by InvisibleChurch (Stimulus ~ Response / "...and that's why the color yellow makes me sad, I think.")
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To: Baladas

Atheist conservatives should just gather ‘round a statue of Ayn Rand, wooden of course, and listen to a recording of her infamous chapter-long soliloquy. Just take your pick, any one of them will do. For all the high school righteous indignation she musters, nobody can top the sheer cartoonery of her superhero protagonists prattling on for days, on this or that soapbox. Oh, flip a coin, heads it’s architecture, tails it’s trains. That should put all five of them to sleep.

Atheist progressives should take the opportunity to realize just how large their carbon footprint is, and eliminate it. Completely.


19 posted on 12/09/2010 8:48:01 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Abin Sur
I’m an atheist

no you're not...no one has enough faith in anything to look at the night sky, look at a baby, look at a bug, look at a leaf' and say oh well, it just happened.....yesterday there was nothing, and now, wow, look at all the stuff, and somehow it just came to be.....I have a lot of faith, but not that much!!!!

20 posted on 12/09/2010 8:51:16 PM PST by terycarl (4)
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To: InvisibleChurch
Not very clever—an amateurish attempt at secular proselytizing of the young if you ask me.

Oh well,wasn't it Jefferson who said,”But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God.It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.”

But one can't help but pity the man who has no vision beyond the grave.

21 posted on 12/09/2010 9:00:26 PM PST by Happy Rain
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To: tumblindice

“Few things point more towards the man-made origin of religion than the twisted sisters who first came up with the idea of “Hell.” Even the pagan Romans and Greeks believed Hades was just a depressing underworld of shadows.
The genuinely frightening `Old’ Testament God makes no mention of it; we don’t get much detail until the Prince of Peace comes along in the ‘new’ testament. (Work with me Israelites)”

AFAIK, the early Christians didn’t believe in Hell either. They seem to have subscribed to the Jewish concept of “Sheol”, which was a place where the dead would go and exist in a zombie-like state. They believed that Satan and his minions would eventually be cast into the lake of fire, but not man.

The idea of all these elaborate tortures that sinners would be subjected to in Hell seems to have originated with the medieval Church.


22 posted on 12/09/2010 9:08:14 PM PST by Strk321
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To: Strk321

I believe certain sects of the Greek Orthodox Church interpret Hell as a total spiritual divorce from God.
Making perdition an eternal broken heart—the worst torment of all—a pain that drove Lucifer and his minions mad.


23 posted on 12/09/2010 9:14:30 PM PST by Happy Rain
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To: terycarl
no you're not...no one has enough faith in anything to look at the night sky, look at a baby, look at a bug, look at a leaf' and say oh well, it just happened

It doesn't take faith to find biology and astronomy sufficient to explain the night sky, babies, bugs and leaves. Quite the opposite, actually.

24 posted on 12/09/2010 9:21:41 PM PST by Abin Sur
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To: Happy Rain
Making perdition an eternal broken heart—the worst torment of all—a pain that drove Lucifer and his minions mad.

So when Lucifer and his angels rebelled against God, they were sane...but after spending some time in Hell then they went mad?

Hey, that gives me an excuse to post a Gustave Doré illustration:

Man, he was a great artist. On a tangential note, it's interesting that he draws Earthly clouds rising up thousands of miles above the surface, when 19th century science knew they did no such thing. I've seen the same effect used in motion pictures from as late as the 1950's. Odd...

25 posted on 12/09/2010 9:32:36 PM PST by Abin Sur
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To: Abin Sur

All Atheists should be required to explain the origin of Reason. How about you? Care to? What in your estimation provides Reason its - Reasonableness?


26 posted on 12/09/2010 9:45:01 PM PST by februus
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To: Baladas

Why are atheists so insecure?

Why do they proselytize?

Why do they care?


27 posted on 12/09/2010 9:47:19 PM PST by jocon307
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To: Happy Rain

“I believe certain sects of the Greek Orthodox Church interpret Hell as a total spiritual divorce from God.”

I understand that to mean instead of actual torment, Hell is a place where souls simply wander in gloomy misery knowing that because they rejected God, they cannot be with him.

From what I’ve read of Christian theology, Satan and his minions are beyond redemption and will ultimately be thrown in the lake of fire because they rebelled against God entirely on their own. Man can be redeemed because he was merely tempted to do evil and is not fully responsible for his wrongdoings.


28 posted on 12/09/2010 9:51:06 PM PST by Strk321
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To: Happy Rain

I recall a David Brinkley report back in the sixties about Christmas in Japan. I’m sure many of you remember his distinctive delivery - “In America ... people worry about ... Christmas losing its meaning. ... Here, ... it never had any.” ( wry smile )


29 posted on 12/09/2010 9:54:09 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: februus

“All Atheists should be required to explain the origin of Reason. How about you? Care to? What in your estimation provides Reason its - Reasonableness?”

I have heard atheists say that when a person has an impulse to do good in the world or to turn his life around, it came from within himself and not God. So they’re essentially saying that man does have some kind of spiritual force in him. If we’re all just the result of biochemical reactions, then where did that strength to get off of drugs or alcohol come from? Or to save someone’s life?


30 posted on 12/09/2010 10:00:42 PM PST by Strk321
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To: februus
Reason. How did reason come into the world? As is fitting, in an irrational manner, by accident. One will have to guess at it as at a riddle. - Nietzsche
31 posted on 12/09/2010 10:02:58 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: februus
All Atheists should be required to explain the origin of Reason.

"Required"? By whom? How should this requirement be enforced, and what's the penalty if I refuse?

How about you? Care to? What in your estimation provides Reason its - Reasonableness?

Reason (it should be noted that there are many definitions and sub-types) is a method of coming to conclusions through cognition, as opposed to methods used by non-human animals such as instinct. Only minds of a certain level of intelligence seem capable of reasoning. It should be noted that some of the more intelligent non-human animals do seem capable of very basic reasoning.

This being the case, it seems reasonable (get it?) to conclude that the ability to reason is an evolutionary advantage in some species. Since humans are the most intelligent animals on the planet, we have the most ability to reason...which is why we milk cows instead of vice-versa.

Well, enough banter for tonight. G'nite..

32 posted on 12/09/2010 10:03:58 PM PST by Abin Sur
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To: Happy Rain

And I read how Napoleon, when he was exiled on Saint Helena, said to his friend Antomarchi, an atheist, “How can you not believe there’s a God? All the evidence points to it and besides, all the great men have thought so.”


33 posted on 12/09/2010 10:12:13 PM PST by Strk321
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To: Strk321
If we’re all just the result of biochemical reactions, ...

Did you know Newton was born on Christmas Day ? ( the old calendar, of course. )

Right at the end of the Principia Mathematica, in the General Scholium, he gives his famous affirmation of the Lord God as Universal Ruler, brusquely concluding, "... and thus much concerning God, to discourse of whom from the appearances of things, does certainly belong to Natural Philosophy."

Then, in the very last paragraph, he begins, "And now we might add something concerning a cerain most subtle spirit which pervades and lies hid in all gross bodies." Speculating that, "... animal bodies move at the command of the will, namely by the vibrations of this spirit, mutually propagated along the solid filaments of the nerves, from the outward organs of sense to the brain, and from the brain to the muscles."

As a matter of fact, he felt compelled to add his affirmation of God in a later edition because critics thought the Principia promoted atheism, particularly, as I recall, by his remark that "Absolute true and mathematical time, of itself, and from its own nature, flows without reference to anything external, ...", but note he did not see the necessity of amending this declaration.

Anyway, I've always thought his headlong plunge at the very end into a materialistic speculation on the nature of perception and motor control was quite striking.

34 posted on 12/09/2010 10:38:05 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: Baladas

Fr Malachi Martin from a few decades ago - paraphrasing - We’re leaving a Christian world and entering into a Paganistic world.
http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=2640502%2C1


35 posted on 12/09/2010 10:46:15 PM PST by bronxville
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To: Baladas

In my youth, The Nativity was very much at the center of the public celebration of Christmas, and this included TV specials depicting the Story of the Nativity.

One of these was on one time and my dad was reading a magazine apparently not paying attention. I guess it was an opera, and in the middle of a big chorus, “And Joseph was angry ...” my dad started laughing. My mom asked him what was so funny, and he said, “Well, Mary is pregnant, and Joseph is mad because he doesn’t think he did it, and here they are singing about it! Ha ha ha ha ha ha!” My mom remonstrated, “That isn’t funny.” “Yes it is,” he replied.


36 posted on 12/09/2010 10:48:09 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: dr_lew

“Then, in the very last paragraph, he begins, “And now we might add something concerning a cerain most subtle spirit which pervades and lies hid in all gross bodies.” Speculating that, “... animal bodies move at the command of the will, namely by the vibrations of this spirit, mutually propagated along the solid filaments of the nerves, from the outward organs of sense to the brain, and from the brain to the muscles.”

Well, that’s more-or-less expressing a belief in pantheism (ie. that the universe itself is God). This sort of thinking is common among men of science. Einstein was a pantheist, as was Carl Sagan, and also Stephen Hawking.

Newton considered himself a Unitarian (a Christian who does not believe in the Holy Trinity or the divinity of Jesus) and wrote extensively on religion and the occult.


37 posted on 12/10/2010 12:34:48 AM PST by Strk321
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To: Abin Sur
Lucifer could not understand and was frustrated that God would put man before he,the Lord's most devoted subject,and the angels so he rebelled in an attempt to force God back to His “senses.”

No being loved God more than Lucifer and when the revolt failed and he and his were cast down the trauma of being rejected by the supreme entity of LOVE himself demented them and made their eternal mission the corrupting of the beings God loves most.

Atheists miss so much wasting their short time on earth—and that IS all the time THEY have as far as THEY believe—cynically rationalizing when they should be intelligently puzzling why so much peace and happiness can be derived from,to THEM,romantic notions of an afterlife.

Atheism is sooo boring because the opinion (one can neither empirically prove nor disprove God) has no past or future.

38 posted on 12/10/2010 2:47:39 AM PST by Happy Rain
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To: Happy Rain

Most of what I’ve seen from atheists on the net is neither rational or based on reasoning. It’s largely emotional attacks on a God they claim to not believe in.

“Atheism is sooo boring because the opinion (one can neither empirically prove nor disprove God) has no past or future.”

What atheists usually do is invent a strawman god and demand that Christians prove its existence.


39 posted on 12/10/2010 5:02:04 PM PST by Strk321
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To: Strk321
Well, that’s more-or-less expressing a belief in pantheism (ie. that the universe itself is God).

With the term "spirit", his reference is implicitly to electricity, which he apparently had some inkling of. Note that "spirits" in our vernacular refers to alcohol, which is the "spirit", or active principle, of wine.

At any rate, Newton was at pains explicitly to deny pantheism:

It is the dominion of a spiritual being which constitutes a God: a true, supreme, or imaginary dominion makes a true, supreme, or imaginary God. And from his true dominion it follows that the true God is a living, intelligent, and powerful Being; and from his other perfections, that he is supreme, or most perfect.

Here's the whole General Scholium. It's not very long.

40 posted on 12/10/2010 6:27:21 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: Baladas

The coloring book makes a nice point that EVERYONE is missing the meaning of the holiday. It is about caring and sharing and family and friends. I think atheists and Christians can agree on that.
http://www.mindposts.com/uncategorized/celebrate-a-rational-holiday-with-the-atheist-christmas-coloring-book


41 posted on 12/10/2010 6:54:29 PM PST by Talkwire
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To: dr_lew

Yes, the language of Newton’s time doesn’t always make sense to modern readers.

As I had said, he was a Unitarian who wrote numerous papers on religion and the occult, which would go against the idea of being a pantheist.


42 posted on 12/10/2010 8:53:40 PM PST by Strk321
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