Skip to comments.Atty. Stephen Pidgeon: Irrelevant where Obama was born; probable cause for high treason
Posted on 12/12/2010 12:16:27 PM PST by Seizethecarp
Interview with attorney Stephen Pidgeon. The case for probable cause of high treason against Barack Obama.
Atty Pidgeon explains how there is already enough probable cause to warrant investigations and indictment against Obama for high treason under the Logan Act.
Atty. Pidgeon also explains Obama's constitutional eligibility in full detail. Parts 1-3 embedded below. Enjoy!
While the title says Obama's birth location is "irrelevant," Pidgeon explains in detail why birth location could be disqualifying but as of now the uncertainty of birth location compared to the certainty of Obama's NBC ineligibility is what makes the birth location "irrelevant" in comparison.
Pidgeon is the law partner of Leo Donofrio. They have an appeal of an adverse ruling in the Chrysler Dealer case in which Pidgeon and Donofrio accuse the federal judge, Judge Gonzales, of committing a "fraud on the court"...his own court. The lead plaintiff in that case is on the record as being willing to pursue Donofrio's theory that a quo warranto filing in DC could be made to contest Obama's appointment of the car czar. "But for" the appointment of the Car Czer by an ineligible federal official, the Chrysler dealers wouldn't have been injured.
See Donofrio's comments:
"Just a quick update on the Quo Warranto aspect of our representing the Chrysler dealers. Both Steve Pidgeon and I agree that our clients should exhaust all possible remedies pertaining to the Chrysler bankruptcy before seeking Ex Relator status in the DC District Court. Filing a petition now in the DC District Court would be premature as weve recently filed a Notice of Appeal with the Southern District of New York. But we do represent 82 former Chrysler dealers led by James Anderer who support a future quo warranto action."
Here is Donofrio's last comment on his blog:
"On August 30, 2010, Judge Hellerstein suddenly dismissed the Chrysler Dealers appeal in the Southern District of New York thereby also canceling, for the second time, the oral argument that he ordered sua sponte. Judge Hellersteins opinion contains legal and factual errors. Steve and I will be entering an appeal in the 2d Circuit.
Pidgeon & Donofrio GP"
We can't impeach him because he's not eligible to be President, but we can hang him for treason.
I am more concerned with the teachings of Frank Marshall Davis and Saul Alinsky, Bill Ayers and J. Wright. Or, the influences of Tim Geithner, Valerie Jarret, Van Jones. How about Mark Lloyd, the Diversity Czar at the FCC who praises Hugo Chavez and wants government control of the media and internet?
Atty. Stephen Pidgeon: Irrelevant where 0bama was born; probable cause for high treason
Interview with attorney Stephen Pidgeon. The case for probable cause of high treason against Barack (Hussein) 0bama.
Atty Pidgeon explains how there is already enough probable cause to warrant investigations and indictment against 0bama for high treason under the Logan Act.
"The Logan Act is a United States federal law that forbids unauthorized citizens from negotiating with foreign governments. It was passed in 1799 and last amended in 1994. Violation of the Logan Act is a felony, punishable under federal law with imprisonment of up to three years.
"The text of the Act is broad and is addressed at any attempt of a US citizen to conduct foreign relations without authority."
Just shows how corrupt our Nation is, doesn't it?
If this Constitutional requirement isn't enforced, than nothing really matters any more.
So this doesn’t interest you then keep quiet and stop discouraging those who are interested.
You really should be glad that someone is interested in this since you aren’t.
The criminal thread runs deep on both sides, like the Mutual Assurred Economic Destruction policy they have included us in on, where if one falls we all fall. So goes the criminal element in DC they are all tied to each other all hold each others secrets and skeltons in the closet so if one of them slip and fall they all will fall like dominoes. I believe change can only come from the people, tea party people, no strings attached, no rings to kiss, no allegance to the creer politician, allegance only to the American people and the Constitution.
He should have been arrested when he campaigned for Odinga. He contributed to the death of many people who were brutally slaughtered.
Timing is everything...Nothing will happen until GOP is Speaker of the House/second in line to Presidency behind VP.
If Obama came out and said he was born in Kenya, nothing would come of it.
BS! Surely you don’t believe that.
Actually, Obama may just be a Brigadier General; Soros is probably the true General.....or Secretary of War.
Taking a General off the field is still a worthwhile endeavor.
Excellent! Thanks for posting. This needs to go viral. Attorney Steve Pidgeon has been involved practically from day one with the Dunham fraud.
Couldn’t agree with you more.
I’d like to think it would matter but hell, we have idiots here who say it wouldn’t.....I’m not so sure.
I’ll not mention any names ;)
Walk/chew gum at the same time doable.
If he was born in Kenya and proof was made public, it would indeed matter.
Wow! That sounds hopeful as a strategy.
The first thing to go down is the Courts when a country collapses.
Sadly, they don't matter and we don't listen to them anymore.
I was trying to think of the quote that went something like "this Nation and it's Constitution must be run by a religious, moral people...
For some reason I am having a total mental block on it tough.
Anyway, that quote if I could remember it is most apropos.
He came out and said his father was a Kenyan, and nothing came of it. He came out and (supposedly) told Keyes he wasn't eligible to run for POTUS, and nothing came of it. He's sealed his Hawaiian Health Dept. records, and nothing came of it. He has dragged in others to lie for him in order to sidestep any vetting process, and nothing came of it.
“He came out and (supposedly) told Keyes he wasn’t eligible to run for POTUS, and nothing came of it”
What? Do you have a link?
And down they're headed by "evading" the issue.
Yep, take your pick:
There is no way Republicans are going to enforce the rule of law on Obama. We are so screwed.
I am expecting a Nixon-type replay where he is visited by representatives of his own party and informed that he will agree to step down in exchange for a full pardon by Biden.
No impeachment. No hanging.
Did that visit informing Obama of his impending departure happen this past Friday with the message delivered by Bill Clinton? It sure looked like it, but it could by just a warning or something else entirely.
Does it really matter?
We know that the Kenyan government claims obama was there.
we know the birth certificate posted by obama was fake.
we know that obama is in violation of Article 2.
we know that there is no record of obama being born in any Hawaiian hospital
We know that over 2 million dollars has been spent to protect obama’s birth records from the public.
What does matter is that we can not get the democratic party to vote to remove obama regardless of his place of birth or eligibility.
I disagree. Obama’s protection has fallen away both in the House and in the public opinion.
While the legal elites ignored 100% Obama’s dubious NBC status and Marxist associates, I would guess that 80% of the legal establishment and public would demand that Obama be removed if it came out that Obama intentionally hid a Kenyan birth. Only the 20% progressives and AA’s would say that it wouldn't matter.
Thanks for the links.
I assume you are referring to Im running for Senate not President which Keyes said was part of their debate exchange. I can’t find any link to the Senate debate only others discussing it after the fact and as hearsay. I would like to hear the original. It’s odd that everyone discussing it discussed Keyes assertion that Onama said it not that they heard Obama saying it. I’ll keep looking.
Pidgeon suggests there is probable cause against Obama under the Logan Act based on a charge that Obama was “negotiating” with Al Qaeda by offering to withdraw from Iraq and Afghanistan if Al Qaeda would agree to a ceasefire and that Obama made that offer illegally as a candidate.
Needs graphic of Hammer Hitting Nail.
Yes it matters very much. More and more Americans are waking up to the usurper being a usurper, and in a few weeks the Rs are in charge of the House.
This will make a huge, huge difference.
There’s only one reason why anyone would say “it doesn’t matter” that makes any sense to me.
They don’t WANT it to matter.... ahem.
One freeper whose name I canNOT remember heard it. He had taped it, IIRC. Maybe Fred Nerks remembers, he Knows All. Or Beckwith, he Knows All too. Including Nachum ‘cause he keeps track of All, too.
I read about that one (or it even might have been two) freepers who heard the original debate on (IIRC) CSPAN before it was edited.
When asked about it, Keyes has said he has no recollection of Obama making this particular comment and has never introduced it as evidence in the eligibility lawsuits he's been party to.
Why people continue to promote this baseless internet rumor is beyond me.
I have a folder of quotes like that. I can look in a bit. Heck, you want the whole folder?
One or perhaps two freepers heard 0bastard say that when he (or they) listend to the original debate on IIRC CSPAN.
Keyes was asked later and didn’t remember. (Much later was asked).
sorry...not me...I only HEARD about it...looking for a video has turned of nothing, as far as I know.
You don't think Keyes has a copy of his own debate to watch? Good Lord, this isn't the 1950s. Keyes was most likely handed a burned DVD-R of the entire event within minutes of the debate ending.
Keyes has been a plaintiff in how many eligibility lawsuits now? And somehow, Obama looking him in the eye and admitting that he's not eligible to be President is an exchange that Keyes can't remember? And nobody can find this quote (not even Keyes himself) because every single copy of this debate that exists has been scrubbed? You expect people to believe this?
The reason nobody can find this infamous quote is because Obama never said it!
The whole idea that Obama will be impeached or tried for treason is almost laughable. Not because he isn’t guilty of many said crimes, but because so many others made it possible for him to get to the Oval Office.
Complicit in his treachery is the entire leadership of the DNC that signed off on his legitimacy as a candidate. The very language on the form required to certify his qualification by birthright to be president was changed and signed off on for every state in the union. If that was not enough, there was and is significant voter fraud in numerous states and much of it was caught on video. The Democrats who supported Hillary Clinton made a series of videos documenting the voter fraud that gave Obama the nomination in Texas. : ‘We will not be silenced’
The Obama campaign has spent millions to fend off any attempt to get at his birth certificate.
Then, after that, you can go into two years of ethical violations of his oath of office.
All of which brings us to the knowledge that since so many will go down with him, it would take an unbeatable majority in both houses to make sure that his impeachment would be ratified.
So, to make a long story short. It is not going to happen any time soon.
We will see just how corrupt our newly elected Republican House is a month or two.
If they don't move to impeach Obama, you know the fix is in.
Here it is; “The constitution only works if it is followed by a religious and moral people.”
Didn’t MO refer to Kenya as BO’s “homeland”? And even BO said, “...my muslim faith.” Slip of the old tongue? I don’t think so.
Let’s just say that where there’s life, there’s (real) hope.
Maybe some Rs will find courage. Maybe some Dems will not want to go down with the ship.
Here are a few that might work:
On the Importance of Morality and Religion in Government:
[W]e have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion....Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. (Source: John Adams, The Works of John Adams, Second President of the United States, Charles Francis Adams, editor (Boston: Little, Brown, and Co. 1854), Vol. IX, p. 229, October 11, 1798.)
Religion and good morals are the only solid foundation of public
liberty and happiness.”
— Samuel Adams (letter to John Trumbull, 16 October 1778)”
Of all the dispositions and habits which least to political
prosperity, Religion and morality are indespensable supports.
In vain would that man claim the tribute of Patriotism who should
labor to subvert these great Pilliars of human happiness.
— George Washington (Farewell Address, 19 September 1796)
“[O]ur ancestors established their system of government on morality and religious sentiment. Moral habits, they believed, cannot safely be trusted on any other foundation than religious principle, nor any government be secure which is not supported by moral habits.”
— Daniel Webster, American Jurist and Senator
“[W]hen People are universally ignorant, and debauched in their Manners,
they will sink under their own weight without the Aid of foreign
Invaders.” —Samuel Adams
And my very favorite:
“Men are qualified for civil liberty in exact proportion to their disposition to put moral chains upon their own appetites—in proportion as their love of justice is above their rapacity;—in proportion as their soundness and sobriety of understanding is above their vanity and presumption;—in proportion as they are more disposed to listen to the counsels of the wise and good, in preference to the flattery of knaves. Society cannot exist, unless a controlling power upon the will and appetite is placed somewhere: and the less of it there is within, the more there must be without. It is ordained in the eternal constitution of things, that men of intemperate minds can not be free. Their passions forge their fetters.”
— Edmund Burke
You know he never said it? You watched the debate live on CSPAN? No?
There was one and IIRC perhaps two freepers who did watch it live, and I think one taped it. The question and answer allegedly took place either right after the formal debate or in a break. It was not part of the formal debate.
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