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Did Obama really graduate magna cum laude from Harvard?

Posted on 12/15/2010 9:56:11 AM PST by big black dog

I see this claim made in numerous articles and blogs, yet I have never seen any concrete proof of this whatsoever or anybody vouching for knowing this first hand who would be in a position to know.

It would seem if proof was available, it could easily be offered. Yet when I ask the leftards to simply show me the proof, all I ever get is "nobody would be saying it if it weren't true." (??????)

Does anybody know of any proof of this?


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1 posted on 12/15/2010 9:56:14 AM PST by big black dog
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To: big black dog

I believe Obama Sr. did, not 0bozo Jr.


2 posted on 12/15/2010 9:58:06 AM PST by smokingfrog (But what do I know?)
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To: big black dog
Way back when this was a hot topic, someone found that NO ONE AT HARVARD ever remembers seeing the guy - ANYWHERE.

We called it 480 degrees of separation, or something.

3 posted on 12/15/2010 9:58:27 AM PST by Huebolt (It's not over until there is not ONE DEMOCRAT HOLDING OFFICE ANYWHERE. Not even a dog catcher!)
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To: big black dog

No and no.


4 posted on 12/15/2010 9:59:01 AM PST by curth (SarahPac: More than 2.5 million Facebook members! Are you in for $20.12?)
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To: big black dog

None of his school records from Occidental College to Columbia and then Harvard have never been made public so the claim cannot be validated. His school records, his medical records his birth records and eveything else that describes this guy which would include Pasport record have either been sealed or not made public.


5 posted on 12/15/2010 9:59:06 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: big black dog

Magna cum Laude?

More like “Thank the Laude!”


6 posted on 12/15/2010 10:00:11 AM PST by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Wouldn’t there have been a commencement program to show whether he graduated from Columbia or Harvard with honors regardless of whether he walked or not?


7 posted on 12/15/2010 10:01:09 AM PST by Comparative Advantage
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
None of his school records from Occidental College to Columbia and then Harvard have never been made public so the claim cannot be validated. His school records, his medical records his birth records and eveything else that describes this guy which would include Pasport record have either been sealed or not made public.

Yet this is supposedly the most "transparent" administration in history.

Poor Orwell, he was so right, just a bit early on guessing the date (1984).
8 posted on 12/15/2010 10:01:29 AM PST by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!)
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To: big black dog
Nobody will be vetting Zero at this point, not even during the 2012 election.
Something like "there are more important issues at hand" MSM talking head point.

Just like being a coke/pot head isn't an issue. Frustrating.

9 posted on 12/15/2010 10:02:07 AM PST by MaxMax (Conservatism isn't a party)
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To: big black dog

He was at Harvard Law School, and did make the law review, which roughly correlates to top 10%, same as magna, so it appears that yes, he did. For whatever that’s worth.


10 posted on 12/15/2010 10:03:10 AM PST by babble-on
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To: big black dog

Someone is confusing him with Romney.


11 posted on 12/15/2010 10:03:12 AM PST by Ripliancum ("If a wise man contendeth with a foolish man, whether he rage or laugh, there is no rest." Prov.29:9)
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To: big black dog

There is NOT ONE DOCUMENT or Piece of EVIDENCE of any kind that Obama Ever went to ANY SCHOOL in The United States. All we have is “their Word” Sorry , not good enough for me.


12 posted on 12/15/2010 10:04:12 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: big black dog

The next time you see it published on a blog you should note the URL of the blog. Then we can get busy making an issue of who made the statement, ask them to prove it and question where they got transcript information when the media can’t.


13 posted on 12/15/2010 10:04:27 AM PST by Baynative (Truth is treason in an empire of lies)
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To: big black dog

Obama has never released records from Occidental, Columbia, or Harvard (or even from his High School, for that matter). He was Editor of Harvard Law Review, which is very a prestigious position, but no articles, reviews or comments in the Law Review attributed directly to him have ever been found or released. There was one article on abortion in HLR which is believed to have been written by him.


14 posted on 12/15/2010 10:04:55 AM PST by PGR88
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To: big black dog

I question did he ever graduate?


15 posted on 12/15/2010 10:05:22 AM PST by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: big black dog

Probably. 90% of Harvard grads graduate with some honors. Boston Globe did a story on it around 2001.


16 posted on 12/15/2010 10:05:45 AM PST by 1L
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To: babble-on

He was voted president of Law review, a honorary title, not Editor, which is predicated on brains and ability.


17 posted on 12/15/2010 10:05:45 AM PST by Chickensoup (I am no longer Republican or Democrat, I am Conservative.)
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To: big black dog

Obama was a ‘D’ student who received his degree via Affirmative Action.

I tell this to all my democrat friends. When they react I just say, ‘Prove me wrong.’

There’s their trouble.


18 posted on 12/15/2010 10:05:45 AM PST by t-dude (Sarah causes banal and vituperous evil snarks to shriek in horror!)
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To: babble-on
He was at Harvard Law School, and did make the law review

And never published an article, never clerked, and did not reveived any prestigious job offers upon graduation. So it would seem there were other factors at work that accounted for his appointment to law review.

19 posted on 12/15/2010 10:08:20 AM PST by big black dog
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To: big black dog

No and no.

Never.

It comes from people assuming - the editor of law review USED TO BE #1 student.

Then they changed it to an elected position, and changed the requirements for editor - to get more “diversity”.

He wasn’t even close to magna cum laude at any school.


20 posted on 12/15/2010 10:08:38 AM PST by Eldon Tyrell
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To: PGR88
There was one article on abortion in HLR which is believed to have been written by him.

or Bill Ayers

21 posted on 12/15/2010 10:08:38 AM PST by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: babble-on

Harvard Law School changed its law review membership criteria several years before President Obama attended to allow some members to write/or be elected on to the law review rather than only getting on through grades as in the past.


22 posted on 12/15/2010 10:08:38 AM PST by writmeister
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To: big black dog

It islike his certificate of birth,doctored.


23 posted on 12/15/2010 10:14:14 AM PST by RocketRoland
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To: t-dude

Right on, that is what McCain should have done when he was running.

You are obviously much more competent than the McSellOut.


24 posted on 12/15/2010 10:15:17 AM PST by dila813
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To: big black dog

His name and any honors given would show up in the program they hand out at graduation.

There were probably 2000 or more printed for his grad, maybe you can find one.

What year does he claim he graduated?


25 posted on 12/15/2010 10:16:15 AM PST by DBrow
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To: Comparative Advantage

They have locked down every single clue pertaining to his education. Supposedly, he was the Editor of the Harvard Law Review, but not one single article or opinion by him has ever been published. We know less about this guy than any President in the history of the Republic, and he has an Army of lawyers making sure we don’t find out anything.


26 posted on 12/15/2010 10:20:35 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: babble-on

“He was at Harvard Law School, and did make the law review, which roughly correlates to top 10%, same as magna, so it appears that yes, he did. For whatever that’s worth.”

I don’t know - seems he couldn’t be bothered to actually write a single word for the Law Review, so it may be that his MCL was similarly devoid of any real effort.


27 posted on 12/15/2010 10:23:42 AM PST by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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To: DBrow

Wouldn’t it be listed on Harvad’s website? Class of 19xx & all of the students who graduated with honors that year? Suma cum Laude, Magna cum Laude, etc.


28 posted on 12/15/2010 10:23:56 AM PST by rickb308 (Nothing good ever came from someone yelling Allah Snackbar)
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To: big black dog

however, in anonymity, I’d say those same “other factors” would also mean he probably got very good grades. Who’s gonna give a “D” to him? John Houseman?


29 posted on 12/15/2010 10:25:00 AM PST by babble-on
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
The CW is that his Columbia records are sealed because he applied as a foreign student.

Either he lied about that and should not have been admitted or he told the truth and is ineligible to be POTUS.

30 posted on 12/15/2010 10:25:23 AM PST by Churchillspirit (9/11/01...NEVER FORGET.)
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To: rickb308

no school does that


31 posted on 12/15/2010 10:25:39 AM PST by babble-on
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To: big black dog
[Obama] did not reveived any prestigious job offers upon graduation.

FWIW, graduates of Suffolk (Close Cover Before Striking) Law are more likely to pass the Mass. Bar Exam on their first try than graduates of Haavaad Lore. They do not teach Law at Harvard Law. The poor kids have to go to a cram school over a deli at night to pass the bar exam. HL is too busy indoctrinating them with a bunch of left wing nonsense. People get hired out of HL because of the astronomical LSAT scores it takes to get in.

32 posted on 12/15/2010 10:26:24 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Socialists are to economics what circle squarers are to math; undaunted by reason or derision.)
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To: Chickensoup

He was voted president of Law review, a honorary title, not Editor, which is predicated on brains and ability.

OK who was the editor at the time, would he not have some interesting info? I am not savy enough to figure this out but someone here might be. Also staff everybody keeps personal records

best regards


33 posted on 12/15/2010 10:27:04 AM PST by dozer7 (Love many, trust few and always paddle your own canoe)
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To: dozer7

He might have interesting info, but he probably also is waiting for the president to appoint him to the federal bench for life.


34 posted on 12/15/2010 10:28:51 AM PST by babble-on
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To: big black dog

There is no evidence that Barry attended Harvard let alone graduate.


35 posted on 12/15/2010 10:37:56 AM PST by kevinm13 (Tim Geithner is a tax cheat. Manmade "Global Warming" is a HOAX!)
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To: babble-on

Wrong.

They changed the rules and requirements - specifically to get more “diversity”.


36 posted on 12/15/2010 10:43:28 AM PST by Eldon Tyrell
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To: big black dog

Knowing what we know about Barry’s ethics , intelligence and work habits
and what we don’t know about his past-
I’ve wondered if he actually took the Illinois Bar Exam.
Obviously someone named Barack Hussein Obama took it,
but, was it Barry ?

The guy is so incredibly lazy, pathologically lazy
I can’t see him cramming for a licensing exam.
He wrote in Dreams about his mother yelling at him for being lazy ,
hanging out with drug dealers and
having terrible grades his senior year of high school .
And not applying to any colleges.
And he mocked her.
His history of mind numbing drug use which is still unexplored and we have no evidence that he has ever stopped using drugs.

No evidence of any real job-a short stint ( allegedly ) scooping ice cream in high school,
years spent wandering around the inner city with a bullhorn
and when he did land a job at a law firm,
he spent his days with his feet on the desk
pretending to write a book on civil rights.
Which irked a lot of his fellow lawyers.

” Allison Davis, a founding partner of the firm wrote:
Some of my partners weren’t happy with that,
Barrack sitting there with his key board on his lap and his feet up on the desk writing the book.”

He cannot take the time or has the intelligence to memorize the briefest of statements.
Off teleprompter he is an incoherent cretin.
The odds are that someone else took the exam.


37 posted on 12/15/2010 10:44:40 AM PST by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: eyeamok

HE DID GO FOR A FACT TO OXIDENTAL WHERE HE WAS HOUSED WITH THE FOREIGN STUDENTS.


38 posted on 12/15/2010 10:47:08 AM PST by connjdllm
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

“People get hired out of HL because of the astronomical LSAT scores it takes to get in.”

You mean astronomical numbers for whites and Asians. Obama entered as a black. No one has the first clue what his scores were. They could be great - or they could be crap. Based on how he acts and talks - smart people know where he stands.

We DO know that he did not graduate on Dean’s list from Columbia - as a poli sci major. For a white or Asian - this means BC at best. NEVER NEVER NEVER Hahvahd, without fantastic connections.


39 posted on 12/15/2010 10:48:18 AM PST by Eldon Tyrell
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To: big black dog

All you have to do is “name it and claim it” or “blab it and grab it” and that Harvard degree is yours!


40 posted on 12/15/2010 10:50:16 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: big black dog

How many of us that went to college have pictures (whether we want to show them or not) are there any pictures on other peoples cameras that he is in while in college? How many of us have seen “tagged” picts on face book of us from other peoples cameras. If there aren’t any then something is amiss.


41 posted on 12/15/2010 10:50:24 AM PST by Walkingfeather
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To: Comparative Advantage

That’s what I’ve wondered also. Somewhere out there somebody’s mama has a commencement program with all those names printed in it. Beside the name: “cum laude”, “summa cum laude”, or “magna cum laude”.

Especially at a snooty, ivy-league school.


42 posted on 12/15/2010 10:53:14 AM PST by GadareneDemoniac
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To: connjdllm

Do you mean Occidental?


43 posted on 12/15/2010 10:53:50 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: dozer7

From what I understand everyone in his life has been contacted and asked not to speak. I imagine that the law Review journal have the names of the Chief editor and others.


44 posted on 12/15/2010 10:54:47 AM PST by Chickensoup (I am no longer Republican or Democrat, I am Conservative.)
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To: dozer7

From what I understand everyone in his life has been contacted and asked not to speak. I imagine that the law Review journal have the names of the Chief editor and others.


45 posted on 12/15/2010 10:54:56 AM PST by Chickensoup (I am no longer Republican or Democrat, I am Conservative.)
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To: big black dog

If 0bama had graduated with honors, they surely would have mentioned it here.

http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2008/11/obama-joins-list-of-seven-presidents-with-harvard-degrees/?fb_xd_fragment#?=&cb=f3b661daaaf805c&relation=parent&transport=fragment&frame=f3262b6f9567b52


46 posted on 12/15/2010 10:57:16 AM PST by smokingfrog (But what do I know?)
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To: Eldon Tyrell

My opinion of Harvard is that it takes all kinds. If everyone was like people at Harvard the world would be a much worse mess. As it is, only Cambridge and Brookline are.


47 posted on 12/15/2010 11:00:16 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Socialists are to economics what circle squarers are to math; undaunted by reason or derision.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Harvard is a private school. They can admit anyone they want for any reason. If you have connections you can get in.

I know of Full Professors at at least one private elite university that do not have any more formal credentials than a high school degree. In most of these cases the people were exceptional talents whose abilities far exceeded their formal credentials but who simply did not wish to let school interfere with their education, but some did get their positions via politics.

FWIW, I don’t think Angela Davis or William Ayers have the kind of academic or scholarship back round to qualify on merit for their academic positions.


48 posted on 12/15/2010 11:20:58 AM PST by rdcbn
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To: DBrow

1991


49 posted on 12/15/2010 11:27:46 AM PST by smokingfrog (But what do I know?)
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To: Chickensoup
In dozens of interviews, his [Obama's] friends said they could not remember his specific views from that era, beyond a general emphasis on diversity and social and economic justice.
50 posted on 12/15/2010 11:30:03 AM PST by smokingfrog (But what do I know?)
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