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Florida school shooter largely influenced by liberal and socialist beliefs
Examiner ^ | December 16, 2010 | Marc Schenker

Posted on 12/16/2010 4:27:30 AM PST by Suvroc10

Florida school shooter largely influenced by liberal and socialist beliefs. Clay Duke, the unemployed and apparently bipolar anarchist who shot up a Panama City, Florida, school board on Tuesday openly admired many ideas that are popular among liberals and socialists. While some have alleged that he was really mentally ill (he was actually on his medication, so there goes that excuse for his personal actions right there) or have even tried to blame inanimate objects like the Obama-economy with all its high unemployment for his destructive action, if you look at all the evidence of what shaped Duke’s thinking, it can be traced exclusively to liberalism and socialism. In the end, everyone’s responsible for their own actions, and Duke’s motivation for holding up the Florida school board seems to have been a veritable checklist of lefty beliefs.

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TOPICS: Local News; Politics; Society; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: duke; liberalism; shooter; socialism

1 posted on 12/16/2010 4:27:41 AM PST by Suvroc10
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To: Suvroc10

Bump


2 posted on 12/16/2010 4:31:00 AM PST by tutstar
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To: Suvroc10

He was a big, fat, michael moore kind of commie hater of Freedom and Liberty.

LLS


3 posted on 12/16/2010 4:32:20 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: Suvroc10

Oooops! He wasn’t a Tea Party guy. This story is headed for the “memory hole”.


4 posted on 12/16/2010 4:40:46 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Suvroc10

Liberals cant shoot straight.


5 posted on 12/16/2010 4:52:19 AM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: Suvroc10
When the New York Times sees a story like this they scream,

“AAAAARGH!!! WE COULD WIN A PULITZER WITH THIS STORY IF ONLY HE WERE A CONSERVATIVE!!!

but instead...it never happened.”

6 posted on 12/16/2010 4:54:39 AM PST by Happy Rain ("Every Christmas the Leftist atheists become "hatetheists.")
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To: Suvroc10

My bet is that each member of that school board went out the very next day and bought a gun with the knowledge they wont ever get another chance like that again.


7 posted on 12/16/2010 4:55:11 AM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Suvroc10

I am convinced that people like this shooter, Duke, are consumed with jealousy of those who have more money than them. Why select a school board? Maybe because he considered the school board was made up of educated, upper-middle income individuals with authority. That combination is a ready made target for those who are constantly fed a diet of victimization by a liberal government.


8 posted on 12/16/2010 4:57:05 AM PST by sueuprising (The best of it is, God is with us-John Wesley)
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To: Suvroc10

He was a big fan of “V for Vendetta” which always indicates two things - first you’re a goofball liberal, second you like really crappy movies.


9 posted on 12/16/2010 4:59:03 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Suvroc10

Well you know he wasn’t influenced by Annie Oakley...


10 posted on 12/16/2010 5:02:18 AM PST by Hatteras
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To: Happy Rain

My local (conservative) AM station is spinning that he was “obsessed with anarchy.”


11 posted on 12/16/2010 5:05:50 AM PST by Spirochete (Sic transit gloria mundi)
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To: sueuprising

His wife was let go from a job with the school system.


12 posted on 12/16/2010 5:09:10 AM PST by Jacquerie (Get out of my face and get back in the closet.)
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To: Suvroc10
Yes, and the day before two houses on Cape Cod were burned down with F*** THE RICH left as a calling card.

We should start keeping track.

13 posted on 12/16/2010 5:09:23 AM PST by Jim Noble (It's the tyranny, stupid!)
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To: dead
"He was a big fan of “V for Vendetta” which always indicates two things - first you’re a goofball liberal, second you like really crappy movies."

I'm a fan of "V" and I'm neither a goofball liberal or a lover of crappy movies. I'm a liberal in the classical sense. In the sense of John Locke and Thomas Jefferson but not the modern day definition.

Yes, it is true that in the movie it is mainly about one man's struggle against a fascist government suppressing people's liberties. It never mentions the term neo conservative in the movie. You are falling into the same trap that the left wants us to fall into. That is that fascism equates to right wing. Read what the fascist leaders of the 1930's wrote and spoke about. They called themselves state socialists as opposed to communists who are international socialists. If a government is dictatorial, fascist and suppressing the people's liberties, it is antithetical to every tennant of modern day conservatism.
14 posted on 12/16/2010 5:22:37 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Vaquero
"Liberals cant shoot straight."

After watching the video and before I knew anything about him, I knew he was a lefty. A good conservative takes his militia duties seriously and practices with his firearms. A good conservative would never miss someone when they are only about 7 - 10 feet away from them.

In all seriousness, I don't think he meant to kill anyone. If so, he could have easily killed that stupid (but brave) woman who attempted to attack him with her purse. I think this was a suicide by cop. (or security guard in this case) And he wanted to go out in a blaze of glory. When the security guard only wounded him, he finished himself off.
15 posted on 12/16/2010 5:26:49 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
It never mentions the term neo conservative in the movie

Of course it doesn't. The movie is heavy handed in its political message but not that heavy handed.

16 posted on 12/16/2010 5:29:00 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: Suvroc10
Humanists basically believe that without God, human beings can still be innately moral or ethical
Very true - just look at any inner city in America. Oh wait ...
17 posted on 12/16/2010 5:51:48 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Suvroc10

Liberals/Socialist are mentally ill. They are either losers who can’t compete in the real world, or they have become wealthy and have a tremendous guilt complex because they are rich, or they are evil control freaks who think they can rule the world because they are brilliant. You know who they are....


18 posted on 12/16/2010 5:57:29 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: Suvroc10

Clay Duke was crazy and had a record that included threatening people with guns. His political views were sparse and irrelevant and were informed by paranoia. His actions and attitudes from long before the shooting incident resemble those of a couple of people I have known for many years(their families are family friends) who were long ago diagnosed with bi-polar syndrome and/or psychosis. My wife knew him and his wife. My wife worked briefly with the woman in school. Duke was, to be technical, a dangerous screwball and nothing more or less. Ascribing political motivations or even coherent views to the man is just wrongheaded. What such a person thinks politically is simply not relevant to anything. He will be who he is and do what he does regardless of what thoughts he has about politics and philosophy.


19 posted on 12/16/2010 6:04:41 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: Vaquero
Liberals cant shoot straight./i>

He was not a "Liberal." He was purely Paranoid.

20 posted on 12/16/2010 6:07:28 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: sueuprising

“Why select a school board?”

I think it was because they layed of his wife, or soemthing like that. No?


21 posted on 12/16/2010 6:11:21 AM PST by Pessimist
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To: arthurus

Good point.


22 posted on 12/16/2010 6:13:15 AM PST by Pessimist
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To: Suvroc10

The DNC gears their propaganda directly to the mentally ill. I’m not joking. They relish in feeding the paranoid and insecure exactly what they want to hear.


23 posted on 12/16/2010 6:15:27 AM PST by SampleMan (If all of the people currently oppressed shared a common geography, bullets would already be flying.)
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To: Pessimist

They “layed of his wife”. Hmmmmm. That would get me upset. Just kidding. But isn’t it funny how sometimes typos make a lot of sense.

I thought the guy had blanks. As calm as he seemed to be I think he missed intentionally.


24 posted on 12/16/2010 6:16:43 AM PST by Terry Mross ( Reagan made one mistake: He chose Bush as his veep. We've been paying for it ever since.)
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To: Suvroc10
(he was actually on his medication, so there goes that excuse for his personal actions right there)

I wonder if this person has ever known people medicated and "on their meds" for being psychotic, bi-polar and/or Schizophrenic? I know several in a family that has a lot of that going way back. One fellow is a pleasant guy and his sister keeps him medicated as per prescription but he still has episodes where he tears things up- vandalizes things. He says there is another fellow who operates his body sometimes. Some folks are always "on their meds" but their meds get changed every so often because they don't fix things so well and that goes on for years or their whole lives. Being medicated does not denote being tamed. The problem seems so much more intense now than it once was because prior to the 70s emptying of the asylums, these people were kept in those institutions.

25 posted on 12/16/2010 6:18:52 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: sueuprising
people like this shooter, Duke, are consumed with jealousy of those who have more money than them

The school board because his wife had been fired as a teacher for incompetence a year earlier. Her unemployment was ending right then. The man was hopelessly PARANOID. Paranoids who express political ideas tend to sound like leftists because that is the ideology most expressive of PARANOIA.

26 posted on 12/16/2010 6:23:50 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: arthurus
Ascribing political motivations or even coherent views to the man is just wrongheaded. What such a person thinks politically is simply not relevant to anything.

Perhaps. But the media & libs like Bloomberg attribute right-wing political motives to nutjobs all the time, so it's useful to point out that this guy was a leftist, if only to pre-empt that mischaracterization, and to provide a counterexample for the Scott Roeders of the world.

27 posted on 12/16/2010 6:24:49 AM PST by Sloth (If a tax cut constitutes "spending" then every time I don't rob a bank should count as a "desposit.")
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Tenet. Tenants just rent their principles and do it without so many Ns.


28 posted on 12/16/2010 6:26:01 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: arthurus

Glad you could add some personal insight. We all get angry about politics but people who do things like this have a screw loose to begin with. Liberalism did not take a normal person here and turn him into a murderer. It simply gave a dangerous nutjob an excuse to do what he would have done anyway if put under enough pressure.


29 posted on 12/16/2010 6:29:11 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
I didn't even concern myself with the political aspects of the movie. I don't expect any relevant or important political message from a Hollywood movie.

The movie was just horrific. The main character was a talky, emotionless bore. The dialog was stilted, preachy and idiotic. The whole plot was just goofy, start to finish.

The fight seems were lame ripoffs of better movies. The special effects were cheesy. The acting pathetic.

It was a bad movie. And then, after its release, the movie became some sort of dopey fantasy for liberals who didn't like Bush and wish they were tough enough to take him and all Republicans out. Most of them would never pick up a gun and fight for anything. This guy was the exception in that he actually acted on his fantasies, but luckily he was horrible shot!

30 posted on 12/16/2010 6:31:48 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Suvroc10

This guy was a convicted felon who did prison time. How could he legally own a firearm?


31 posted on 12/16/2010 6:35:50 AM PST by thethirddegree
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To: Suvroc10

Heard his wife on the radio this morning....whiney libs. good riddance.


32 posted on 12/16/2010 6:37:26 AM PST by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: Suvroc10
Well since the media can't tie him to the TEA Party, the NRA or the pubbies, this story will disappear from the pundits view.

Why show a left wing crazy with an illegal gun?

The fact that he was brought down by another gun {legal} makes this a story not worth telling.

Move along, nothing to see here.

33 posted on 12/16/2010 6:39:58 AM PST by USS Alaska
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To: Suvroc10

This guys actions tie directly to the left-wing democrat party class warfare rhetoric. Back when the financial crisis hit we started seeing a rise in left-wingers who wanted to either harass or terrorize the rich. Recently the democrats have been spouting more anger at the rich and we are seeing it again.

The democrats have a long history of inspiring or using terrorism as a part of their political ideology from way back when they used the KKK, to in the sixties with the Weather UnderGround, to the eco-terrrorist groups like ALF and ELF, to the homo-fascist movement, to their Union thugs, and now also inspiring class warfare terrorists as well.

The left-wing always want to divide and make it seem as if they are on the side of the oppressed and when they pump up this type of rhetoric it leads to this.


34 posted on 12/16/2010 6:41:09 AM PST by TheBigIf
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To: dead

I guess we’ll have to disagree. I thought it was a very good movie. Not great, but very good.


35 posted on 12/16/2010 7:02:36 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: thethirddegree
"How could he legally own a firearm?"

He can't, which further bolsters the argument the NRA and other 2nd amendment advocates make that criminals will always have guns available. Gun laws only effect the law abiding citizens.
36 posted on 12/16/2010 7:05:15 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Suvroc10

Saw a tape of this shooting on O’Reilly last night.

If I am ever in a meeting and some guy pulls out a gun, I would throw anything I could find at him & high tail it to the door, if at all possible.

I would not sit there and whine, “Please don’t do that” repeatedly as did the school board member.


37 posted on 12/16/2010 7:07:16 AM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: arthurus

I couldn’t agree more.


38 posted on 12/16/2010 9:02:12 AM PST by texmexis best (`)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

Oh how they hoped he was a domestic terrorist tea partier .


39 posted on 12/16/2010 3:09:09 PM PST by ronnie raygun (V)
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