Skip to comments.Tea Party "organization" vs. REAL Tea Party "PEOPLE"
Posted on 12/16/2010 6:37:43 AM PST by davidosborne
Have you ever stopped to think for just a moment WHO or WHAT exactly is a "Tea Party".
The Republican Party "godhead" <- Small "g" would have YOU to believe that the "Tea Party" is under their control and will/does serve as the grassroots arm Republican Party. The more I get involved in the "Tea Party" movement the more I realize the REAL power of the Tea Party movement is in the LOCAL INDEPENDENT groups not some National "Tea Party" organizaing/steering committee.
This is KEY to understanding why it is so important that the REAL Tea Party folks (100s if not 1000s of independent groups some small (maybe 10 or less members) and some quite large and GOOOH join forces and and take on the Republican Party "godhead".
As we look forward to 2012 I am cautiously optimistic that we be able to field a TRUE grassroots candidate in each and every one on the 435 congressional districts and replace all 435 members of the U.S. House in 2012!
I know that I am preaching to the choir here on FR so I will refrain from going into the details.
The purpose of this thread is to ask my fellow FReepers who are also members of a local "Tea Party" group if they have already joined GOOOH.
Let's get GOOOHing
Passing it on
So you think that Tea Partiers should spent their time and energy replacing solid conservatives like Michelle Bachman instead of concentrating on getting rid of liberals and RINOs.
Truly idiotic. But we've come to expect that from you lately, sad to say.
I expected you to join this thread.. welcome...
Give me a good reason why I would want to replace my congressman, Steve King. Count me out.
Are you saying that no other person in your entire district is qualified to serve?
being a member of the U.S. House of Representatives should not be a career.. self-imposed term limits will GOOOH a long way to fixing the problem.. no matter how “good” a congressman is there is always someone just as good or better that can serve a term or 2 at the most.
Remember the HOUSE holds the PURSE STRINGS of the U.S
It is fundamental.
The establishment seems more capable of trying to co-opt the Tea Party power and its success than they are at responding to democrats creaming them with rhetoric in the press, out maneuvering them procedurally in Congress and fracturing the entire Republican party by way of manufactured chaos and disarray, as Malkin alluded to.
Rush is right. We have no long term strategists. The dems kick our butt tactically in procedural warfare.
The Stupid Party.
We can’t seem to put together a War Room capable of responding to the mouth of Harry Reid, nevermind a mindset to combat these usurpers hand to hand on the floor of Congress, all the way to and through the campaign of 2012. Republicans, instead, find it easier to cave to the dems while they borrow lines from the Tea Party and imply solidarity with the Tea Party and throw their weight around verbally to the media, because of OUR victory in the November election, but they NEVER battle back.
Because if he's that good, we need him in the senate? If there's a conservative up-and-comer in your district fit for congressman duty, that's a plausible strategy.
There are some Republicans standing up to the Beltway nonsense - but GOOOH would toss them out along with the RINOs and liberals. That IMO is stupid and a waste of effort and resources.
Like walking your pit bull with a 8 pound fishing line for a leash. You can pretend you control it until you disagree about which way to go.
No one except me and I’m getting too old. Even I could not possibly replace King. This guy is a real treasure and you should be grateful he’s there.
We need King around as long as we can keep him.
To rotate everyone every two years is no long-term viable strategy. Actually, there was very good progress this year and I'd say just continue what we're doing. Let's take this back incrementally.
When I fried my computer I lost that wonderful description of the movement that you posted a year or so ago. The one were you spoke of the movement being “energy” and not needful of leaders.
Any chance you have that handy?
If the GOP goes RINO over the next two years, the TEA party, as a collection of many millions of free individuals will clarify that issue to the congressional RINOs in 2012. I just hope they know it in DC.
How much does it cost to join GOOOH to run for office under their name?
If I join and recruit people, do I get residual payments for anyone I recruit to GOOOH?
...also, from what I understand, anyone of any political stripe can join GOOOH, even a communist or die-hard liberal; is this true?
Is it really all about the process, not the principle?
In many respects the fact that the TEA Party does not have a national organization is one of its strengths. The media does not have a defined organization / person to demonize. It drives them absolutely crazy! All they can do is try to demonize candidates that claim Party affiliation. If they do, and the candidates proves to be a “TEA Party” approved candidate; then money flows into that person from around the country. The Press are beside themselves: If they don’t demonize the candidate he may win; if they do, he receive vast amounts of funds and may still win.
I consider myself a TEA Party member by not giving my funds to the RNC, but by funding solid conservatives across the country. I no longer trust the RNC to use my money wisely.
The left is completely impotent because they can not focus on a single person and hammer them into submission.
One of our “sayings” in GOOOH is that we have the PROCESS to produce the best candidates that money CAN’T buy ! :)
So the answer is NO there is no “income” potential for joining GOOOH. the GOOOH process will play out in each of the 435 congressional districts INDEPENDENTLY. The National campaign will only promote the PROCESS so the candidate that emerges from the process in each district will indirectly benefit from the NATIONAL CAMPAIGN !
More details at http://www.GOOOH.com
So, if one wants to actually run, not just become a member, or if one wants to have a state or regional GOOOH group, there is no charge?
AMEN ! Thanks for that comment I agree completely !
Several years ago I started sending a “refund request” for previous donations to the RNC in those postage paid envelopes requesting MORE MONEY !
ABSOLUTELY CORRECT !!
“We cant seem to put together a War Room capable of responding to the mouth of Harry Reid, nevermind a mindset to combat these usurpers hand to hand on the floor of Congress, all the way to and through the campaign of 2012. Republicans, instead, find it easier to cave to the dems while they borrow lines from the Tea Party and imply solidarity with the Tea Party and throw their weight around verbally to the media, because of OUR victory in the November election, but they NEVER battle back.”
Very well stated!!!!!
And while I thought it was nice that Boehner teared up once in a while and was emotive to certain subjects, I can see where this will be a HUGE problem! I don’t think this guy will be able to stand up to the dems. Even though in the minority, the Witch of SF will probably still be running things next year.
So, if someone is working really, really hard to promote GOOOH nationally, they could, in fact, be helping elect a pro-abortion communist from San Francisco under the GOOOH banner because GOOOH has no principle platform, it is all about the political process? Are you comfortable promoting GOOOH knowing you could be helping empower a pro-abortion, pro-gun control candidate somewhere?
I backed a solid conservative candidate in PA-13 this year. He spent just under a million, his opponent spent 3.3 million and overwhelmed his momentum at the end. And the only reason he had that much was that he put in a half-million of his own money.
Are you so naive that you think money doesn't matter in politics? TV spots are not given away for free.
The ONLY influence any single member will have in the PROCESS is in THEIR congressional district.. period.. If conservatives FAIL to participate in the PROCESS in their district and allow liberals to dominate the PROCESS in their district than you can’t blame the process for producing a liberal candidate... I have been doing this a long time my FRiend, and I can tell you that liberals don’t like the GOOOH process because it forces them to expose their REAL agenda and commit (in advance) to voting a certain way on EVERY major issue.... that is the process my friend! so yes.. in essence in districts that are overwhelmingly liberal you can expect the consensus candidate in that district to be a bit more liberal than others.. but consier the fact that the most hard core liberals would NOT be interested in the GOOOH process and therefore would be a non-factor... REAL constitutional conservatives dominate the GOOOH membership at this time so you can expect that trend to continue... so in the end if you particiapte in the GOOOH process and the candidate that emerges is too liberal for you than guess what you don’t need to vote for that person, but at least you can say you particiapted in the process !
You are correct and we will NEVER be able to remove all the money influence in the political process, but we need to start somewhere and GOOOH is great start IMHO !
There is no reason for a candidate for a seat in the U.S. House representing about (700,000 - 800,000 people) needs to spend MILLIONS to get elected. The process that requires you to spend millsion to “apply” for a job that pays $150,000 makes no ecconomic sense to me. And quite frankly keeps folks who would make GREAT Reps out of the process. GOOOH invites ALL those citizen patriots out there to run for congress and actually win !
Wrong. If you promote a process that can fail by design to advance conservatism, I am not interested it in. You are too wedded to this process and not to the end results. That, quite frankly, is little different from the Republican party that you are railing against. And the battle is not against the process, but against the federal behemoth in DC that is what corrupts good people once they get there. Your approach would toss out those already in DC who are fighting the behemoth.
We are very much aware of this dirtboy, which is why GOOOH will run a National Campaign on the PROCESS and invite EVERY voting citizen to participate in the selection process in THEIR district ! GOOOH has no power, nor does it WANT the power to influence WHO wins the selection process in each district... GOOOH is the PROCESS period !
You are deluded if you think that process can accomplish jack. But, then again, you were crowing that your guy in the Florida Senate primary got seven percent of the vote, so maybe your sights are a bit lower than most.
you know very well that GOOOH is a threat to the Republican/Democrat “coalition” that has ruled American Politcs in our lifetime!
Replacing ALL 435 members of the House with CITIZEN/PATRIOTS who will take control of the Purse Strings of the United States will be a major victory and you know it ! I suggest you join us or get out of the way.. period !
You criticism of a PROCESS that you know nothing about is unwarranted and not helpful in advancing the conservative agenda and you know it.
I would like you on the GOOOH team sooner than later, you have some great energy that can bring a lot of like-minded folks into the GOOOH process, but you are not helping by sticking up for the GOP “godhead” which we ALL hope to take down in 2012!
just my 2 cents worth my FRiend.
Your deep allegiance to the Republican Party is noted my FRiend!
Yeah, whatever, Mr. Seven Percenter.
All GOOOH represents is a distraction from a larger movement. You can't win, but you sure as heck can help conservatives lose ground. Which is why your movement is such nonsense and needs to be opposed.
Your idiocy is noted. Again.
I think the one you are referring to is the last one. I hope this helps.
I happen to like my Congressman, he's a hardcore conservative. Why would I want to replace him?
Is he the only person out of the 800,000 people in your district qualified to serve?
Something special is happening with the Tea Party Movement of today. Of course people will try to gain control of it because it is a very powerful source of energy. But the concern that it is not controlled and therefore doomed is unfounded. It needs not be nor should it be confined ... to a leader, to an organization or to a specific plan. Such activity would nullify the greatness of what it has become to date and could grow to in the future. One neednt worry ... one only need to join the energy, shun people who attempt its control and allow plans to be spur of the moment. With a leader, there is a target, with an organization, a counter-organization, with a plan, a thwarting of the plan. But as pure ENERGY ... nothing can stop it. Think of it is energy ... join it, and be a part of this historical change-making effort.
Ping to #43
It is Historical. Don’t let it be co-opted by the very people we are trying to get rid of.
‘Though the sentiments are mine, the words belong to FReeper The Patriots Flag.
Though the sentiments are mine, the words belong to FReeper The Patriots Flag.
Thanks to you both.
Thanks to you both.
FANTASTIC post ! I concur 100% That is why GOOOH is not agenda based but rather a systematic process for vetting HOUSE candidates in YOUR district.. The TEA Party movement does not need “leadership” to be effective... just patriots who participate in the candidate selection process where EVERYONE has the opportunity to run.... as the saying goes.
The best candidates money CAN’T buy !
That'a a stupid question. Are you saying I should vote against him because he's already in office even though he's always voted the way I wanted him to vote?
If so, you are an idiot.
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