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Envirofascism Leaves Dirty Dishes
Right Wing News ^ | December 15, 2010 | Van Helsing

Posted on 12/16/2010 2:18:58 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Everything is grubby in countries run by statist moonbats — even dishes fresh out of the dishwasher.

A couple of months ago, Sandra Young from Vernon, Fla., started to notice that something was seriously amiss with her dishes.

"The pots and pans were gray, the aluminum was starting to turn black, the glasses had fingerprints and lip prints still on them, and they were starting to get this powdery look to them," Vernon says. "I'm like, oh, my goodness, my dishwasher must be dying, I better get a new dishwasher."

But others are having the same problem all across the country. Dishwashers aren't to blame. As with virtually all problems large and small, it's the fault of Big Government.

Seventeen states have banned phosphates from dishwashing detergent, on the theory that they encourage algae to grow. So manufacturers took out the ingredient that made the detergent effective.
Susan Baba from Procter and Gamble says the company had no choice. It just wasn't feasible to make detergent with phosphates for some states and without them for others.

"You know, this isn't really a huge environmental win," she says.

That's because phosphates are wonder ingredients. They not only strip food and grease from dishes but also prevent crud from getting reattached during the wash. So she says without phosphates, people have to wash or rinse their dishes before they put them in the dishwasher, which wastes water. Or they run their dishwasher twice, which wastes electricity.

But the point of environmental regulations isn't to make life more pleasant for polar bears and delta smelt. It's to make it less pleasant for us by tightening the noose of ubiquitous, all-powerful government around our necks.

Meanwhile, Sandra Young is buying trisodium phosphate at the hardware store and mixing her own detergent — until our rulers get around to forbidding it.

On a tip from JWWright. Cross-posted at Moonbattery.


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KEYWORDS: algae; biggovernment; business; commerce; detergent; dirtydishes; dishwashers; envirowhackos; government; greens; phosphates; statists

1 posted on 12/16/2010 2:19:02 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

A million Soviet gremlins tearing away at the American standard of living.


2 posted on 12/16/2010 2:21:31 PM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Noting trisodium phosphate for when we can only get GI-dishwashers.


3 posted on 12/16/2010 2:25:09 PM PST by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: LibreOuMort

ping


4 posted on 12/16/2010 2:27:33 PM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Why are TSA exempt from their own searches?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I don’t know why enviroweenies seem to always be able to force their agenda on the rest of us but this must stop. I guess because they read neat slick nature magazines ‘n stuff. Environmentalism is basically unhealthy.


5 posted on 12/16/2010 2:32:29 PM PST by brushcop (CW4 Matthew Lourey CW2 Joshua Scott/ Kiowa pilots KIA Iraq '05. Thank you for our son's life.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Bttt.


6 posted on 12/16/2010 2:32:46 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (Had God not driven man from the Garden of Eden the Sierra Club surely would have.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Some things of note on this issue.

The ban that most of these state issued did NOT include commercial (resturant) and institutional users. That alone is enough proof that it is a control issue, not an environmental issue.

Buy from where they buy and you'll be OK. Also you can use on-line websites to order phosphate laden deteregent. I now buy it by the case from Amazon.

7 posted on 12/16/2010 2:35:36 PM PST by Drill Thrawl (TSA - You don't get on 'til we get off)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

We buy trisodium phosphate at the hardware store and add one table spoon to our dishwasher when doing dishes. Now our dishes come clean and sparkle again.


8 posted on 12/16/2010 2:37:38 PM PST by Pilated
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Yep. Just try to buy a REAL electric blanket that warms the bed before you get in.

Some have a preheat function but you have to look carefully to get it.

The left is winning many battles.


9 posted on 12/16/2010 2:41:58 PM PST by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

It takes me 3 times as long to clean dishes and they still aren’t clean. Maybe our Congress could get off their butts and do something about this. I also don’t want to pay a good sum of money for good stuff only to find out I can’t get it clean and it will deteriorate due to our government.


10 posted on 12/16/2010 2:43:06 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Pilated

Thank you for that tip. I’m going to try it.


11 posted on 12/16/2010 2:44:37 PM PST by sunshine state
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To: freekitty

Oh, you don’t want to do that. You’ll get your phosphates back, along with $1.3 million for a bug museum in NC, $48 billion for Emanual Cleavers nutjob inner cities program, repeal of DADT, spending on Obamacare bureaucracies, etc., etc.


12 posted on 12/16/2010 2:52:32 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (up)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

It reminds me of the toilets that use half as much water, but have to be flushed twice.


13 posted on 12/16/2010 2:52:34 PM PST by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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To: freekitty
"It takes me 3 times as long to clean dishes and they still aren’t clean."

It's okay, as any enviro-nut can tell you, the water supply is endless.

14 posted on 12/16/2010 2:52:58 PM PST by cookcounty (December 31st is coming.....STOP the Democrats' Midnight Tax Jack-Up!!)
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To: PATRIOT1876
It reminds me of the toilets that use half as much water, but have to be flushed twice.

You should see some of the new ones. They actually work. One of them has a 3" drain to the bowl with a specially designed flow path. In the demo I watched, it was amazing.

15 posted on 12/16/2010 2:54:08 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Our dishwasher in our condo in Seattle broke about 7 months ago. Our farm in Kentucky has no dishwasher. Regarding the condo, we told the landlord about it but said we were fine with hand washing, which is what we have done ever since.

Seems to work pretty well, but then, we are empty nesters. And we like cooking and cleaning together.


16 posted on 12/16/2010 2:54:33 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
simple, buy some phosphate and add it to the detergent...
17 posted on 12/16/2010 2:55:05 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: PATRIOT1876

>>It reminds me of the toilets that use half as much water, but have to be flushed twice.<<

We have those in my office building. Typically you have to flush three times (and they are auto flush, but with the little black override button), and when you enter a stall, the toilet usually has leftover paper and “stuff” in the water from the previous user.


18 posted on 12/16/2010 2:57:24 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: RobRoy

When we were looking for a house several years ago hubby refused to consider any that had the new toilets. Said he wanted “Turd Suckers” not a toilet he had to flush three times.


19 posted on 12/16/2010 3:04:22 PM PST by ladyvet
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; All

*CFL bulbs
*Digital TV
*Low flush toilets
*Useless laundry detergent
*Granting Disney inane copyright extensions
*Chevy Volts

Just some wonderful examples of the gubmint at work.


20 posted on 12/16/2010 3:04:38 PM PST by Strk321
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To: PATRIOT1876

Intelligent idiots dictating to the 80 persent of us Americans


21 posted on 12/16/2010 3:11:52 PM PST by ronnie raygun (V)
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To: Strk321

What’s wrong with digital TV? It is a wholly proper thing under the most originalist reading of the Commerce Clause for the national government to set standards for uses of the electormagnetic spectrum for broadcast emittters operating at frequencies where the emmissions can radiate beyond a limited radius of a few miles.

And while it is surely un-Constitutional for the Federal Government to regulate household water flows under any orginialist or near-orginalist interpretation, it happens that the regulations requiring low flush toilets forced toilet manufacturers to aggressively re-engineer and redesign outflow. Some of those toilets work better that the older big gulp toilets.


22 posted on 12/16/2010 3:17:08 PM PST by bvw
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To: bvw

“What’s wrong with digital TV? It is a wholly proper thing under the most originalist reading of the Commerce Clause for the national government to set standards for uses of the electormagnetic spectrum for broadcast emittters operating at frequencies where the emmissions can radiate beyond a limited radius of a few miles.”

I never said it was unconstitutional. I said that it was a mistake. Let me explain what’s wrong with digital TV:

*Induced manufacturers to discontinue CRT TVs
*Incompatible with 60+ years worth of TVs
*Signal dropout/freeze up
*MPEG artifacts
*Should never have been required that all TV stations use it or that all TVs have ATSC tuners

The only real advantage is freeing up some bandwidth for HD transmission.

“Some of those toilets work better that the older big gulp toilets.”

Most low flush toilets I’ve seen release a spray of high pressure water that splatters up on you. Now do you really want to be hit with toilet water? Mind you, I’d like to know what kind of toilets Al Gore has in his house. Probably 5-gallon ones.


23 posted on 12/16/2010 3:34:31 PM PST by Strk321
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To: Strk321
I never said it was unconstitutional. I said that it was a mistake. Let me explain what’s wrong with digital TV:

I live no farther than 6 miles from all local transmitters, and within 4 miles of most of them. Nevertheless, heavy snow or wind or rain tends to block some stations. The mode of transmission for digital is not the best that could have been chosen. I have completely lost stations that were 50 miles away.

OTA digital is great--when it works--but it doesn't always work.
24 posted on 12/16/2010 4:03:35 PM PST by Nepeta
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To: Nepeta

Digital signals don’t propagate anywhere near the distances that analog signaling can.

A good example, from the days before wide-spread fiber optic use in computer networking was 10Broad-36, which was sort of an analog version of what many people call “ethernet.” It used 2 coax cables, but you could run a distance of 3600 meters, as opposed to Ethernet’s 500 meters without a repeater.

Another example is the fact that a POTS (plain old telephone system) wiring’s local loop could go a very long distance between your home and the central office, but the very same line that carries DSL is much more limited in distance.

Mark


25 posted on 12/16/2010 4:25:17 PM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Drill Thrawl

My local restaurant supply store sells the commercial version of Cascade with the phosphates still in it. Any good size town should have a store like it.


26 posted on 12/16/2010 4:54:42 PM PST by Eepsy
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To: Nepeta

Yes. The analog signals would fade, but never freeze up or cause the sound to cut out. One problem is that digital transmission is at much lower wattages than analog. They could use higher power, but cell phone companies rudely demanded more bandwidth.

“OTA digital is great—when it works—but it doesn’t always work.”

Theoretically you have a better picture without our old friends Dot Crawl and Color Bleed, when as you said, it works.


27 posted on 12/16/2010 5:06:16 PM PST by Strk321
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To: MarkL

“Digital signals don’t propagate anywhere near the distances that analog signaling can.”

The real deal behind DTV was using less bandwidth, not reliability. They say you can have more channels, but it doesn’t mean much for OTA since you can only get a few at a time there.

Heck, I can pick up WSB AM 750 Atlanta on the radio, a station that’s hundreds of miles from where I live. I’ll bet you I can’t pick up a TV station that far away.


28 posted on 12/16/2010 5:13:38 PM PST by Strk321
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